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To go on holiday with DD’s, but not DS?

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Suncloudstars · 08/07/2025 12:28

DS(14) is from a previous relationship and spends approximately 1/3rd of his time with his dad. I also have 2 DD’s (9 and 4) with DP.

The 5 of us went on an amazing long haul holiday for 3 weeks over the Easter holidays.

I would love to book a week away over the school summer holidays - but a cheaper, last minute sort of thing as the other holiday was an expensive one (and the main holiday of the year). however the price for all 5 of us is too much; but we could afford the cost for 2 adults and 2 DD’s.

As well as his usual days each week, DS is spending a full week with his dad over one of the school holiday weeks. His dad had previously told me that he was looking to take him abroad, but I don’t think that is now materialising. There’s still the possibility that they may have a UK break instead.

Would I be unreasonable to book a holiday abroad for myself, DP and 2 DD’s for the same week that DS is going to spend the week with his dad?

It feels slightly wrong to go without him, but I also think that he is with his dad for the week who will be taking him places/potentially going away so he’s still going to be having a good time/having experiences etc.

We can’t afford to go away a different week and take him with us. So it’s the difference between going without him whilst he’s with his dad, and not going at all.

Aibu to think that whilst he’s with his dad, it’s his dads responsibility to take him away/plan things to do with him for the week and to not feel guilty if we take DD’s away?

OP posts:
Pinty · 08/07/2025 13:33

If he is going in holiday with his dad somewhere in the UK why don't you book a holiday somewhere in the UK with your daughters?.
I think it's cruel to wait until he is away and then book an exciting holiday abroad because it makes him sound as though he is an expensive inconvenience.

Suncloudstars · 08/07/2025 13:33

SalfordQuays · 08/07/2025 13:11

OP you've already said he won't be going abroad with his Dad, so why do you keep trying to discuss that possibility?

I’ve said it doesn’t look like that it will materialise; doesn’t mean it definitely won’t happen.

I’m in agreement that going abroad whilst he sits twiddling his thumbs at his dads house would be a shit thing to do, so I’m trying to understand the reasoning behind whether it would be a shit thing to do IF he does in fact end up going abroad - as it is still a possibility.

OP posts:
vadypops · 08/07/2025 13:33

@Suncloudstarsyour not listening to what people are saying . You are just trying to justify your plan of excluding your son from the holiday . Your a family you go together or not at all .

but as it sounds like your going ahead , we will look forward to your post in a few years look for sympathy that your son has gone no contact and you don’t understand why !

Starlight1984 · 08/07/2025 13:32

Suncloudstars · 08/07/2025 13:30

You’re assuming that he is heavily affected by being from a split family. He’s not.

Ok. You keep telling yourself that...

@Suncloudstars you seem adamant that you're right and nobody is going to tell you otherwise so not really sure what you made this thread for?

SJM1988 · 08/07/2025 13:32

Personally I don't think it is unreasonable to go away without all your children esp as it isn't the main holiday of the year. Its the inevitable downside of divorced / separated parents. BUT it is unreasonable to use money as the reason why.

I have a few separated/divorced friends. Both the parents go away with and without their children and with and without their step children. They have one main holiday a year with everyone together though.

sunshine244 · 08/07/2025 13:31

Yabvu. I find it unlikely you can't afford to take him on this particular holiday another week, yet you say you have multiple holidays a year already.

Is this a particularly expensive/special holiday that costs more than all the rest? If so that's even more unreasonable. Or are you trying to use money as an excuse??

mum11970 · 08/07/2025 13:31

Suncloudstars · 08/07/2025 12:52

So if he’s getting an extra holiday, and having 2 abroad holidays this year, but DD’s only get one whilst DS goes abroad with his dad & co, is that then not unfair on DD’s?

if he was to go abroad with his dad & family, at the same time that we went with DD’s, then he’s not being excluded or missing out is he? Everyone is getting a second holiday, and he’s having a nice time with his dad.

I’m just struggling to understand why it would be wrong for us to go abroad if he was also going abroad at the same time.

You’re not wrong, especially if your DS is going on holiday with his dad at the same time. If he isn’t also going abroad I’d just ask him how he feels about you going without him, chances are he won’t mind at all.
People on here will tie themselves in knots to find a way to make it seem like a child with divorced parents is going to be scared for life if their half or step siblings ever do anything that they aren’t included in. As long as one child or one set of children aren’t always getting the short end of the stick then there should be no issues.
I have been in my DSCs lives for about 30 years and both are step parents themselves now. Thankfully they could understand and accepted that with the family set up we had it was absolutely impossible for everything to be the same for everyone, as there were way too many variables, with them having 7 half siblings between their mum and dad. My dsc and their siblings on our side of the family have an extremely close bond and are all phenomenally well rounded adults who know how to give and take.

Cadenza12 · 08/07/2025 13:31

It's quite simple. You all go or nobody goes. It's what families do.

Starlight1984 · 08/07/2025 13:31

Cosyblankets · 08/07/2025 13:29

I think a big thing is that your OP says the holiday with his dad abroad may not happen

And that him taking DS on a UK holiday is only a "possibility". So the likelihood is that he isn't even going to be going away. Just sat at his dads for a week whilst his mum and siblings are having a brilliant time abroad on a holiday that he wasn't even invited on - in fact, deliberately excluded from.

Haemagoblin · 08/07/2025 13:31

dogcatkitten · 08/07/2025 13:28

If he goes on holiday with his dad and goes on holiday with his mum he gets twice as many holidays than his half sisters. Things are never going to be exactly equal if it's shared custody. Are his mum and stepdad never allowed to do anything with his half sisters while he is with his dad? No cinema trips, no takeaways, no treats at all?

There is a difference between the usual business of life and an expensive family holiday abroad. if you can't see that then you're deliberately not seeing it I think. Step-parent perchance?

Mauvehoodie · 08/07/2025 13:30

Suncloudstars · 08/07/2025 12:41

Those who say it’s wrong, would your answer change if he WAS also going abroad with his dad, step mum and brother from his dad and step mum?

My answer wouldn't change. It's not about "overall fairness" which can never be exactly equal when you don't have a say over what happens in his family with his Dad. It's about you providing the same as you do to your other DC. Especially the family holiday bonding bit that previous posters have mentioned. That's within your control, the rest isn't.

Suncloudstars · 08/07/2025 13:30

DysmalRadius · 08/07/2025 13:09

If you're trying to justify 'fairness' then how many holidays make up for the fact that every other child in the family gets to live with their own two parents and has a single home that they can call their own while he has to go back and forth between families and is alway living with an unrelated adult and kids that have a shared history that he's not part of?

Trying to convince yourself it's 'fair' because he might occasionally get a scrap of bonus holiday is tragic and demonstrates a lack of understanding about how difficult it is to be the step child in a family full of siblings and parents who all get their optimum living arrangements while you are treated like a spare part.

You’re assuming that he is heavily affected by being from a split family. He’s not.

OP posts:
Ophy83 · 08/07/2025 13:29

I don't believe that you could afford to take 4 of you on holiday but not 5, it might just be a different holiday. Just use the budget for 4 and find a holiday for 5 in that budget. If flights are the issue, look at places where you can drive or take a ferry.

Cosyblankets · 08/07/2025 13:29

Suncloudstars · 08/07/2025 13:21

But there’s no exclusion if we choose to do something because plans have already been made for DS to go and do something with his dad?

if I said “we want to go and do something as a four, but you’re going to your dads for the week to sit and do nothing” then that’s exclusion.

but it’s not exclusion if he’s already doing something with his dad, and then we’re choosing to do something secondary to that?

I think a big thing is that your OP says the holiday with his dad abroad may not happen

whitewineandsun · 08/07/2025 13:29

Haemagoblin · 08/07/2025 13:26

Divorced parents LOVE telling themselves this. Even if he is happy and comfortable the vast majority of the time, there is no way he is happier than he would be if both his parents were happily together. That's what your DDs get that he doesn't. His life is more complicated therefore, his place in each family less assured because he is also part of the other one. As this situation perfectly exemplifies. You'd never consider leaving one of your DDs behind because you can't afford all 5 to go. You only consider leaving him out because of his 'other family'. It's inherently a disadvantage.

Exactly. It's really strange that OP can't or won't see this.

dogcatkitten · 08/07/2025 13:28

If he goes on holiday with his dad and goes on holiday with his mum he gets twice as many holidays than his half sisters. Things are never going to be exactly equal if it's shared custody. Are his mum and stepdad never allowed to do anything with his half sisters while he is with his dad? No cinema trips, no takeaways, no treats at all?

Suncloudstars · 08/07/2025 13:28

MsTamborineMan · 08/07/2025 13:08

The unfairness is not that your DDs get an extra holiday

The unfairness is that you clearly don't consider him as a fully fledged part of the family unit. You are ready to drop him because you can't afford to take all your dcs away.

I think this is very over dramatic.

OP posts:
Starlight1984 · 08/07/2025 13:28

Suncloudstars · 08/07/2025 13:21

But there’s no exclusion if we choose to do something because plans have already been made for DS to go and do something with his dad?

if I said “we want to go and do something as a four, but you’re going to your dads for the week to sit and do nothing” then that’s exclusion.

but it’s not exclusion if he’s already doing something with his dad, and then we’re choosing to do something secondary to that?

But plans haven't been made for him to go and do something with his dad have they?

His dad had previously told me that he was looking to take him abroad, but I don’t think that is now materialising. There’s still the possibility that they may have a UK break instead.

beetr00 · 08/07/2025 13:28

@Suncloudstars

"we’re choosing to do something secondary to that" at his expense.

Which you've organised on the exact same dates,he's with his Dad and it's based solely on the fact that you can't afford to take him with you

He could have had 3 holidays this year, lucky boy, but you, his Mum, chose to take your daughters without him on your second family holiday!

Soulfulunfurling · 08/07/2025 13:27

No clearly the decision to not include him will be damaging and divisive.

tumblingdowntherabbithole · 08/07/2025 13:27

I can’t believe you would even consider doing something like this.

Is this a reverse? Is your DS’s dad planning a holiday without him or something?

diterictur · 08/07/2025 13:27

Suncloudstars · 08/07/2025 13:25

Absolutely not. I don’t think inheritance quite compares to an extra holiday…

But that's the same argument you're making on the holiday - he would get an extra holiday so to "make it fair" you would exclude him from your family's holiday. Why wouldn't you disinherit him to make it fair to your DDs?

Haemagoblin · 08/07/2025 13:26

Suncloudstars · 08/07/2025 13:15

But you’re making an assumption that he feels disadvantaged by not living in a nuclear family? That’s not the case for all children. It’s family specific surely. Yes a lot of children may struggle with coming from separated parents and having half siblings who permanently live with one set of full parents, but that’s not the case for all. DS, for the vast majority of the time, is happy and comfortable with having two families.

Divorced parents LOVE telling themselves this. Even if he is happy and comfortable the vast majority of the time, there is no way he is happier than he would be if both his parents were happily together. That's what your DDs get that he doesn't. His life is more complicated therefore, his place in each family less assured because he is also part of the other one. As this situation perfectly exemplifies. You'd never consider leaving one of your DDs behind because you can't afford all 5 to go. You only consider leaving him out because of his 'other family'. It's inherently a disadvantage.

Whatdoidotoday · 08/07/2025 13:26

It doesn’t matter what his dad is doing, whether he gives him 10 holidays a year. It matters that you, his mother is making a choice to exclude him from one of your family holidays. I don’t know why you are trying to make this a joint issue, it’s separate what happens in your home.

i Could never do this to one of my kids. It’s really awful that it entered your mind in the first place

DysmalRadius · 08/07/2025 13:26

Suncloudstars · 08/07/2025 13:15

But you’re making an assumption that he feels disadvantaged by not living in a nuclear family? That’s not the case for all children. It’s family specific surely. Yes a lot of children may struggle with coming from separated parents and having half siblings who permanently live with one set of full parents, but that’s not the case for all. DS, for the vast majority of the time, is happy and comfortable with having two families.

Parents in 'blended' families say that a lot because children are adaptable and want to please their parents and know that their discomfort isn't going to be a priority for a parent that has already moved in with (and had kids with) someone else.

And it suits the parents to believe that because most people don't want to deliberately cause their kids unhappiness.

But if you read threads on here from the children in those families, they often report feeling left out, being made to feel like an inconvenience, wishing they didn't have to live with unrelated adults (however much they might like them as people) and just generally feeling sidelined and 'less than' compared to their half siblings and parents' new relationships.

So your son may be delighted to live between homes and have siblings that get to spend time with both parents and each other while he had to miss out on that. Or he might just be
making the best of a less than ideal situation.

But, either way, I wouldn't stress test the security that you say he has by demonstrating your willingness to drop him for the chance of a holiday that deliberately and specifically excludes him.

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