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To go on holiday with DD’s, but not DS?

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Suncloudstars · 08/07/2025 12:28

DS(14) is from a previous relationship and spends approximately 1/3rd of his time with his dad. I also have 2 DD’s (9 and 4) with DP.

The 5 of us went on an amazing long haul holiday for 3 weeks over the Easter holidays.

I would love to book a week away over the school summer holidays - but a cheaper, last minute sort of thing as the other holiday was an expensive one (and the main holiday of the year). however the price for all 5 of us is too much; but we could afford the cost for 2 adults and 2 DD’s.

As well as his usual days each week, DS is spending a full week with his dad over one of the school holiday weeks. His dad had previously told me that he was looking to take him abroad, but I don’t think that is now materialising. There’s still the possibility that they may have a UK break instead.

Would I be unreasonable to book a holiday abroad for myself, DP and 2 DD’s for the same week that DS is going to spend the week with his dad?

It feels slightly wrong to go without him, but I also think that he is with his dad for the week who will be taking him places/potentially going away so he’s still going to be having a good time/having experiences etc.

We can’t afford to go away a different week and take him with us. So it’s the difference between going without him whilst he’s with his dad, and not going at all.

Aibu to think that whilst he’s with his dad, it’s his dads responsibility to take him away/plan things to do with him for the week and to not feel guilty if we take DD’s away?

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Suncloudstars · 08/07/2025 17:57

aperolspritzbasicbitch · 08/07/2025 16:00

OP, why are you ignoring all the posters asking why you don’t just cut your cloth accordingly and find somewhere cheaper for all 5 of you?

Because as I’ve just said to someone else, I have a life outside of this thread and have other things to do than be replying and keeping up with this at every second of the day. If you look at how many comments are on this thread, surely you could understand that it takes a while to reply and get through them.

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Suncloudstars · 08/07/2025 17:55

Starlight1984 · 08/07/2025 15:59

Are you ever going to answer why you can't go away another week in the the school holidays to somewhere more affordable so you can take all of your children @Suncloudstars ?

I do have a life outside of this thread you know…I’m sorry that my responses are not as quick to you as you’d like.

and I have answered this in response to you if you’d care to look for it.

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Suncloudstars · 08/07/2025 17:54

Justmadeoneup · 08/07/2025 15:59

Is anyone else absolutely cringing at this post 🤣 I just assumed it was the stepfather writing the post, then realised, oh no it's actually the boys mum! Stop calling him your step son,that's so weird. So many comments about your financial situation, holidays are not that grand to your family etc, eugh gives me the ick. Now you've twisted your original post to pretend you were actually asking if it would be wrong to go away the same week he is abroad with his dad, a complete contradiction to the info already provided. Like the vast majority have already said, yes, its wrong to plan your family holiday the week he is will be with his dad. You know it is and you know why.

Where have I called him my step son?

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ThatLoudBear · 08/07/2025 17:52

In this situation, I think the person whose opinion matters most is your son's.
Have you asked him how he'd feel?
Fairness/parity of esteem doesn't always look like treating children exactly the same, thus I think a lot of people have been overly harsh in their responses.
Equally, you have come across as a tad argumentative in your responses, which doesn't always help the flow of threads.

CloudywMeatballs · 08/07/2025 17:51

It's great that your son is seemingly so well adjusted and feels loved in both of his homes. But there is no way that his parents being divorced will not have affected him and will continue to affect him as an adult. It's just not possible. So his sisters do already have a built in advantage in their lives living with both of their parents. Please don't dismiss the effect of divorce on children, however amicable.

As far as the holiday goes, you chose to have 3 children and one of the consequences of that is that travel becomes more expensive. That's one of the reasons my husband and I decided to stop at 2 children. You have to face the consequences of your decision to have a 3rd child. Your son shouldn't.

scrumble767 · 08/07/2025 17:50

I do see where you’re coming from OP. But I don’t think I could do this. I wouldn’t want to go on holiday without all my children, day trips etc is different, but a holiday is a big thing (well it is to me, we only go once a year though). Memories are made on holiday, photos are taken, sights are seen. When these are subsequently discussed/looked at afterwards and in the years to come, how will he feel that you all went and he is the only one who didn’t see the lovely beach, funny waiter, isn’t in the family photo etc?
I agree with PP who’ve mentioned that he’s inherently at a disadvantage to his siblings being the only one who has to go from one home to another, settle in again each time. He might feel a little bit left out each time he hears about anything he missed when he was away with his other family, I think I would.

Again, I see the logic, but this to me is something where the heart should rule the head, and you should all go together.

TequilaNights · 08/07/2025 17:45

I would never do this to any of my children, even if he was going abroad with his other parent.

Nothing to do with logistics, but everything to do with potentially upsetting my child, and how they might feel about it.

Young lads keep things to themselves, even if he was to be broken by it, you might not ever know.. nothing is worth that potentially happening.

Just my views and opinions.

Suncloudstars · 08/07/2025 17:44

Sandmaennchen · 08/07/2025 15:35

Exactly this.

Op, you seem so complacent about your son ‘doing well’. He’s 14 and dealing with a lot of tricky aspects of growing up, on top of having lost his parents and family to divorce! i feel sorry for him. It’s bad enough that you broke up his family unit, but it’s so much worse to even consider excluding him from a holiday with YOUR new family.

Edited

Is he? Sorry I didn’t realise you knew him so well.

yet again, another comment about divorce and ME personally breaking up the family unit… you really are triggered by women who leave relationships aren’t you. Also didn’t realise you knew my ex and I; and the reasons as to why we broke up.

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IsItSnowing · 08/07/2025 17:43

Suncloudstars · 08/07/2025 12:41

Those who say it’s wrong, would your answer change if he WAS also going abroad with his dad, step mum and brother from his dad and step mum?

No, not at all. The fact you shouldn't exclude him from your family's holiday has no relation to whether his father includes him in his.

dumbo67 · 08/07/2025 17:43

Rockhopper3 · 08/07/2025 16:55

OP hasn’t orchestrated it but is considering taking advantage of it to slip the luxury family holiday in .She seems puzzled that so many people have reacted so strongly . Why isn’t she considering leaving a daughter with a friend & taking her son another week if she just wants to save money ?
The answer seems to me that the daughters are a fixed part of a nuclear family whilst the son floats between two . Never quite fully a part of either .

I definitely would never advocate for anyone to stay in an unhappy relationship . Fully support parents splitting up if things are really not working out as believe everyone should be as happy as possible in this short life .

However also feel everything should be done to ensure a child from the first relationship should feel completely integrated into both family units and to me ( and the majority of people being polled ) this is a glaring example of ignoring that principle.

I have worked with many young people & adults in this situation. It really screws people up .

The dynamic of the ds in comparison to the other dc will always be different. There is no avoiding that. It’s what happens when a couple have a child, split, get remarried and have more dc. I have been a product of that and it’s also something that has happened in my family. Nobody is screwed up.

I agree with treating both dc the same. But when the eldest is away life can’t just stop for the rest of the family. Would a day out be acceptable? Would a UK holiday be acceptable? Either way the eldest is still missing out on family time with that family. But it can’t be avoided unless he stops contact with his father which is clearly not the right way to deal with this.

Justmyopinionbut · 08/07/2025 17:40

Your daughters have one family, your son has two. That's not his choice - it was yours. If you exclude him from your family, your excluding him. It's not about how many holidays abroad everyone gets each, it's about families.

Mrsgus · 08/07/2025 17:36

Regardless of what he does with his Dad during their time together, you still have 3 children and they need to be treated the same by you and your now DH!! I could never take the rest of mine on holiday and leave one behind, especially for the reason that you can only afford for the 2 younger children to go. If you cannot afford for all 3 then none of you go 🤷‍♀️

Suncloudstars · 08/07/2025 17:34

Grumpybear33 · 08/07/2025 15:20

You have asked for opinions but are still trying to justify yourself!
I would say talk to your son. 14 is old enough to understand the situation.
I personally think if he is going away with his Dad and other family and he’s happy for you to go away too then it would be fine. I would expect you to offer to take him too though so he feels like it’s his choice not yours.

I’m not trying to justify anything, I’m having a discussion to try to understand others perspectives.

so many on here have accused me of going round in circles, justifying everything I say, ignoring advice etc etc. none of that is true.

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RoxyRoo2011 · 08/07/2025 17:31

Tell me who your favourite children are without telling me 🤦🏼‍♀️

Suncloudstars · 08/07/2025 17:29

GoldenNuggets08 · 08/07/2025 15:11

Why would you omit that? It's a very key part of your OP. You want to go on holiday. It will cost you too much to bring 5 people so you are choosing a week your son can't go so you can afford it. You have decided "we will wait until this week to save money". It's completely different to a cinema trip or a days out without him and comparing both is disingenuous, unless you actively decide "we will wait until next Saturdayto go to the zoo so itll cost us less"! You have 3 children. It is selfish to decide to organise something on a week one is unavailable so the rest of you can afford another holiday. No matter how many yeahs and buts and what ifs you throw at us, that's the crux of this thread!

No one has decided anything… as I’ve repeatedly said - it was a thought. No plans have been made or put into placed you’ll be thrilled to read.

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Gemmawemma9 · 08/07/2025 17:27

Your OP said he’s very unlikely to go abroad with the dad though. You’ve changed the goalposts to suit you.

Uol2022 · 08/07/2025 17:26

In summary, I think the issue is with you deciding whether he can come or not, rather than him being part of the planning. Everything else is distraction.

Uol2022 · 08/07/2025 17:25

DS is 14 and is old enough to have an opinion and be part of the discussion. At that age I sometimes went away with friends and their families. At least once that I remember, my own family went away at the same time and I missed that holiday. It was not a big deal, I didn’t feel excluded, my mum talked to me about it. A nuclear family so less potential for jealousy or ongoing feelings of exclusion; and their trip was less interesting to me than what I could do with my friend. Also it was a school half term so there was less question of just moving it a week later and I could do both. I’d have been upset if they planned a holiday and didn’t talk to me about it!! And if it was something really exciting I’d have been upset they weren’t waiting for me. It was important that they were going on an ordinary (for us) camping trip and I was spending the week pony trekking, so I definitely felt I was getting the better end of that deal.

With a blended family I think there needs to be some coordination between all parts. I think if he’s spending one week out of six with his dad and that’s the week you plan to go away that could feel pretty bad to him. In general I’d try to arrange your holidays on different weeks from his dad and then ask ds which ones he wants to do — ie assume he’s part of both families plans but he’s old enough now that he might choose not to join in with all family activities. Sometimes that’s not possible due to other commitments or whatever and you’ll end up with a clash when you and his dad are planning a trip at the same time, but same principle he gets to decide which to do, he’s always wanted and welcome.

don’t plan a holiday when he’s away intentionally so you don’t have to take him unless it’s something he really really wouldn’t want to do that his sisters are into, and in that case you still need to talk to him so he knows why that’s happening and agrees he’s getting the better option (for him).

Tagyoureit · 08/07/2025 17:25

I wouldn't, it feels mean.

Suncloudstars · 08/07/2025 17:24

angelita8 · 08/07/2025 15:07

That’s not the most important rule though. It’s to treat your children fairly.

Hit the nail on the head here. Fairness and equality… not everyone appears to understand this. I appreciate all of your comments; I know I haven’t replied personally to you - but you’re one of the only ones who seems to see where I’m coming from and haven’t slaughtered me for a thought (not a plan!) so thank you.

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lifeonthelane · 08/07/2025 17:22

I know a father who does this. His shiny new family have holidays without his son from a previous relationship - the son is 10 and has just begun to refuse to see his Dad. If you do this, he is unlikely to forget that he was treated differently and not completely part of your new family unit.

Suncloudstars · 08/07/2025 17:21

AnonymousBleep · 08/07/2025 15:03

The OP is using the exact same dick logic my parents used to justify treating myself and my sister differently from the kids (our younger half-siblings) from their second relationships. 'It's your mum/dad (whichever one they weren't)'s responsibility to pay for your holidays', 'why can't your mum/dad take you away?', 'you wouldn't enjoy coming away with little kids anyway.' Mine went on holiday to Australia with my half-siblings when I was 16 and left me home alone.

I had a massive house party. They fully deserved that!

That’s funny because I pay for everything for DS, his dad contributes hardly anything. I’m the one that gives him all of the experiences he’s had in life. So not sure how that “dick logic” you refer to applies here.

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Needhelp101 · 08/07/2025 17:20

Trolling us now, OP 🙄

TinyFlamingo · 08/07/2025 17:19

I still hold a grudge for my parents going away on holiday for my birthday multiple years as a teen/early twenties!

Suncloudstars · 08/07/2025 17:18

Sandmaennchen · 08/07/2025 14:59

I agree. It’s almost like they want to ‘wipe away’ their previous family unit, maybe due to embarrassment of their failed marriage?

You seem to have a strong issue/dislike for women from “failed relationships”. I bet you advocate that women stay in abusive relationships for the sake of the child…

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