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To go on holiday with DD’s, but not DS?

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Suncloudstars · 08/07/2025 12:28

DS(14) is from a previous relationship and spends approximately 1/3rd of his time with his dad. I also have 2 DD’s (9 and 4) with DP.

The 5 of us went on an amazing long haul holiday for 3 weeks over the Easter holidays.

I would love to book a week away over the school summer holidays - but a cheaper, last minute sort of thing as the other holiday was an expensive one (and the main holiday of the year). however the price for all 5 of us is too much; but we could afford the cost for 2 adults and 2 DD’s.

As well as his usual days each week, DS is spending a full week with his dad over one of the school holiday weeks. His dad had previously told me that he was looking to take him abroad, but I don’t think that is now materialising. There’s still the possibility that they may have a UK break instead.

Would I be unreasonable to book a holiday abroad for myself, DP and 2 DD’s for the same week that DS is going to spend the week with his dad?

It feels slightly wrong to go without him, but I also think that he is with his dad for the week who will be taking him places/potentially going away so he’s still going to be having a good time/having experiences etc.

We can’t afford to go away a different week and take him with us. So it’s the difference between going without him whilst he’s with his dad, and not going at all.

Aibu to think that whilst he’s with his dad, it’s his dads responsibility to take him away/plan things to do with him for the week and to not feel guilty if we take DD’s away?

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Suncloudstars · 08/07/2025 19:55

Theroadt · 08/07/2025 19:43

I’ve read all the OP’s comments and what comes through is that she really, really wants to follow this plan (not having DS on this holiday) but equally really wants general validation from this forum it’s ok. Well, the general consensus is that it isn’t ok, but you have every right to go ahead anywat just stop trying to argue it a different way.

If that’s how you’ve perceived the thread and my comments, then that’s not how I’ve intended to come across. As that’s not how I think or feel.

again, I was trying to understand the rationale as to why my viewpoint was perhaps incorrect.

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LakesLovely123 · 08/07/2025 19:52

I feel like you're getting advice from people who are married and sneer at blended families.

Your son does not have a terrible life. Those suggesting he's in a worse position as the OP daughters is just untrue. Many children are happier in blended families especially when their parents had been unhappy prior.

If he has two happy parents, who co-parent effectively and he sees you're in a happy relationship that's powerful. Life doesn't need to be mediocre and he doesn't need to accept toxic behaviours.

Those suggesting it was selfish of the parents to split is also pretty distasteful.

I think this is massively a sexist issue. I think if his dad went on holiday without his son he wouldn't receive any judgement.

If you are happier OP and your son sees you happy and he feels like an important part of your family I cannot see any issue.

And where does it stop? Do people expect you not to take the girls for days out in case it looks like you're leaving out your son?

There's this ideal where when a woman has children, people think they should be the entirety of their world. Men don't get the same judgement. It's more important the mother is happy with healthy boundaries and expectations and the child witnesses that.

Suncloudstars · 08/07/2025 19:47

BySpoonyBlueMaker · 08/07/2025 19:01

Many people have said it doesn't sound like a good idea to leave DS behind but you just keep trying to justify your choice. If you have made up your mind, then don't ask for opinions! I agree with what others have said regarding your DS almost being an inconvenience. If it's one extra child making the holiday not affordable then it's not affordable at all (not even the 4 of you) and you should look at another destination for entire family.

As I’ve said multiple times, no choice or decision has been made. It was a thought. And a thought that I wanted other peoples opinions on as I didn’t know what the general consensus on the matter was.

I have discussed further opinions to try to gain a better understanding and to try and understand the logic better, so that I can agree - as I clearly seem to be in the minority viewpoint. Although some seem to have taken that as me “arguing” or “doing what I want irrespective of everyone’s opinions” when it’s not the case.

its more the fact of “if he’s going on holiday, then why shouldn’t we at the same time” - yes it’s great when things are cheaper, but pp’s seem to have placed more emphasis on the financial side - when in my mind it’s more about us all just going on holidays at the same time. If he goes away, he’ll be having a great time with his dad & co, so I didn’t realise that people would feel so strongly that he would be being excluded if DD’s also had a holiday. Maybe it’s the way I worded it; maybe I’m a rubbish person. Who knows.

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Acethrower · 08/07/2025 19:45

arcticpandas · 08/07/2025 19:43

@Acethrower Maybe try to stick to the subject? Or start your own thread. Maybe you find it completely normal to exclude a child using the pretext of finances while banging on about how wealthy you are.

Oh don’t be daft
my posts are clear
i think the op is being very unfair and she could have used the time she has dedicated to this thread to find a holiday for 5 for her budget

you left us hanging on your thread!! And just seen… you got deleted!!

Theroadt · 08/07/2025 19:43

I’ve read all the OP’s comments and what comes through is that she really, really wants to follow this plan (not having DS on this holiday) but equally really wants general validation from this forum it’s ok. Well, the general consensus is that it isn’t ok, but you have every right to go ahead anywat just stop trying to argue it a different way.

arcticpandas · 08/07/2025 19:43

@Acethrower Maybe try to stick to the subject? Or start your own thread. Maybe you find it completely normal to exclude a child using the pretext of finances while banging on about how wealthy you are.

Perimenipausalmum · 08/07/2025 19:41

I can't believe you would think about doing this! If he were an adult then yes, but he's still a child! I feel he would resent you and his sisters for this!

tsmainsqueeze · 08/07/2025 19:32

bellamorgan · 08/07/2025 12:39

I couldn’t do it unless I knew he would be off having a wonderful trip too.

Exactly this or no holiday if this were my child.

OneFluentGoldBee · 08/07/2025 19:24

I’m going to go against most of the posters here because I’ve actually been in a similar situation. 2 children to ex partner, 1 to new partner. Ex can’t afford to take kids abroad every year so agreed to alternate abroad holidays every other year. The year the older ones go abroad with ex, I go abroad with husband and younger child at the same time otherwise we won’t see the older ones for the majority of the holidays. Then we do a British holiday as the 5 of us. Then the alternate years the 5 of us go abroad together. The 3 kids then get equal holidays to each other. No one is missing out, and if the point of the holiday is spending time with the other parent then that’s what they are getting. As it happens this year the older kids are staying in Britain for their summer holiday with their dad (but in a holiday cottage or similar) as he found a great deal for one of the other school holidays and they are going abroad then instead. We 3 are still having our holiday abroad at the same time in summer but won’t be holidaying when the older ones are next.

Lickedthespoon · 08/07/2025 19:18

This cannot be real! There is no justification at all

hellosunshineminesagin · 08/07/2025 19:16

Aw stop attacking the OP. She asked the question in good faith. She got an answer. She tried to explain reasons for asking but she has taken it on board. And now she is just winding up the idiots who are choosing to get over-invested.

Becs51 · 08/07/2025 19:15

As has already been said a thousand times over it’s absolutely a shitty thing to do but you keep coming back to “fairness for all your children” and that if he went on a holiday with his dad and you didn’t then take your daughters away that wouldn’t be fair. Fair is within your own family unit not both because it could never be fair. If your family unit has 3 holidays then all children in your family unit get 3 holidays. What happens when your son is at his dad’s is entirely separate.
birthdays and Christmas does he get presents from both families and his siblings so 3 siblings whereas your daughters will get presents from 2 siblings, are you starting to see where your perspective falls flat?

namechangeGOT · 08/07/2025 19:02

OP, what extended 1-1 time does your son get alone with you without stepdad and half siblings being there? His sisters get extended time alone with just mum and dad. Does he get special extended 1-1 time with just Mum?

HarLace1 · 08/07/2025 19:02

I think if u have to ask on here then in your heart you know it's not 100% right but hoping to get some people here saying it's okay. No one here has to worry about it, it's your life, but I think you know the answer already

BySpoonyBlueMaker · 08/07/2025 19:01

Many people have said it doesn't sound like a good idea to leave DS behind but you just keep trying to justify your choice. If you have made up your mind, then don't ask for opinions! I agree with what others have said regarding your DS almost being an inconvenience. If it's one extra child making the holiday not affordable then it's not affordable at all (not even the 4 of you) and you should look at another destination for entire family.

Suncloudstars · 08/07/2025 19:01

Mia184 · 08/07/2025 18:30

OP, at Christmas do you spend 50£ on presents for your DS for every 100£ you spend on presents for each of your other 2 kids?

No I don’t bother buying DS anything for Christmas…or birthdays actually.

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Acethrower · 08/07/2025 18:57

arcticpandas · 08/07/2025 18:56

I think @Suncloudstars is trolling. It's not possible to be so obtuse that you keep saying how rich you are and then go on justifying excluding your son from a family trip because you have to reign in the finances. Like you could choose any other of your luxury spending to cut out, but no, let's not bring the son from a previous marriage.

He will feel that you love him less than your dds OP. And, sadly, having read all your posts, that's what it sounds like. You don't have to rub it in his face though by excluding him from a holiday.

Most thought you were trolling @arcticpandas or your thread yesterday about your brother’s fiancée not being your cup of tea!

arcticpandas · 08/07/2025 18:56

I think @Suncloudstars is trolling. It's not possible to be so obtuse that you keep saying how rich you are and then go on justifying excluding your son from a family trip because you have to reign in the finances. Like you could choose any other of your luxury spending to cut out, but no, let's not bring the son from a previous marriage.

He will feel that you love him less than your dds OP. And, sadly, having read all your posts, that's what it sounds like. You don't have to rub it in his face though by excluding him from a holiday.

anotherwordforit · 08/07/2025 18:54

Yeahno · 08/07/2025 18:12

I've noticed that many people on this site are fixated on the idea of fairness, to the point where it clouds their judgment. They struggle to account for context or nuance. It's all, "That’s not fair; everyone must be treated exactly the same." That’s it. Nothing else seems to matter.

But in the real world, life doesn't really work that way. Ironically, the more rigidly you chase fairness, the more unfair outcomes you can actually create. There are just too many variables for true fairness to be anything but an illusion.

I’ve not read through the entire thread, but has anyone actually explained why it’s considered fair for the OP’s son to potentially get two holidays, but somehow unfair if the OP’s daughters get two in a scenario where he’s not included?

Yes. It’s not the same because the DDs aren’t in a situation where a parent is taking siblings on holiday and excluding them. That’s why it is not relevant if their brother is on holiday with his dad and stepmum- those adults are not their parents or related to them so they are not being left behind in any way.

Yes not everything can be 100% fair all the time but it’s pretty easy not to book a holiday and leave behind one child.

Acethrower · 08/07/2025 18:49

Suncloudstars · 08/07/2025 17:55

I do have a life outside of this thread you know…I’m sorry that my responses are not as quick to you as you’d like.

and I have answered this in response to you if you’d care to look for it.

Coming in at 62 posts now op

you could have found a holiday for 5 that met your budget in the time you have spent arguing on mumsnet

CloudywMeatballs · 08/07/2025 18:48

dumbo67 · 08/07/2025 17:57

Only on MN - the place where posters are advised to LTB over any minor indiscretion - will you also get people heaping on the guilt and shame over being divorced with a child.

I never said that divorce isn't sometimes, maybe even often, the best course of action all things considered. But you can't then pretend that it doesn't have any kind of negative affect on the children involved.

Suncloudstars · 08/07/2025 18:39

Needhelp101 · 08/07/2025 17:20

Trolling us now, OP 🙄

How?

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RandalsAunty · 08/07/2025 18:39

Suncloudstars · 08/07/2025 13:01

There’s zero competition. I’m referring more to fairness to DD’s if he goes abroad whilst we sit at home.

But you can’t compare your DDs with your son - he’s from broken family - his parents do not live together and he is moving between houses (possibly feeling like a spare part in both homes). Your DDs on the other hand have both parents and not having to pack this stuff every few days! Is that fair? Do you still think that your son got a better sea than your daughters from the new partner?!
No matter how many extra holidays will not make up for that (the fact that you consider not taking him means he is not considered equal with your daughters!)!

Waitingfordoggo · 08/07/2025 18:38

If it’s about fairness, then how do you deal with Christmas? DS presumably gets 2 x Christmas celebrations and double the presents. That isn’t ’fair’ either (but as PPs have said, doesn’t make up for the fact that DS has to split his life between two homes while his siblings get to live with both of their parents).

Do your DDs get extra presents to make it fair?

Suncloudstars · 08/07/2025 18:37

butterpuffed · 08/07/2025 17:11

Please don't resort to childish comments , it doesn't help your thread.

Why do you keep saying you started it so you could listen to opinions , when you're overriding them ?

It's quite likely that you will book the holiday , then find out later that your DS won't actually be going abroad with his father . Too late .

It gets to a point where after so many people making incorrect judgments and assumptions about me personally, it gets a bit tedious. So it’s okay for me to sit and “take” the rudeness that I’ve received throughout this thread, but it’s not okay for me to through the odd passive aggressive comment? Double standards…

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