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Aware of Head Teacher and Teacher affair

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GlitterGold7 · 08/07/2025 12:06

Name changed for this. I’ve become aware that the HT of my DC’s primary school is having an affair with one of the teachers. Both are married.

Would you do anything with this information? It feels utterly morally bankrupt that the HT is abusing his position like this, and I feel so sorry for the partners involved.

OP posts:
pinkfondu · 09/07/2025 09:17

Who saw them are they reliable? What were they doing at the hotel lol

Didimum · 09/07/2025 09:17

Fetaface · 09/07/2025 08:44

You used the words - assess them. So same thing. It is a synonym.

You said the governors can then assess them. Nope they will not.

The OP has said she had a thought about them and then hasn't seen them at the hotel but someone has. That is the information.

If they were seen doing something she would say - they were seen necking at the hotel or she was seen on her knees at the hotel. She said they were seen at a hotel.

Being seen doesn't warrant a report or an 'assessing'. What it does warrant is a report of harassment.

I didn’t say they could asses the teachers. I said they could assess OP’s concerns.

If they were seen doing something she would say

You think she would say. That’s different to the what the specific information actually is. Therefore the information is unknowable to you unless returns to the thread to explicitly say it.

Fetaface · 09/07/2025 09:16

Gloriia · 09/07/2025 09:07

Well, as a pp has very patiently explained to you repeatedly we don't know what the op knows. They only posted twice. So they should present their concerns and let the governing body <who I hope are more proactive than yours> investigate and take action.

It isn't the same as chatting to Shirley from the office in the aisle at Tesco, you know that and we know that. Why are you so furious at a parent having great concerns about their HT's ability to do their job effectively as they are allegedly making such great errors in judgement?

The OP has said what she knows. She has her suspicions - thoughts. She has not seen them either - we know that much.

So she has a thought and that is all. Nope they posted three times. Once she called the woman a slag and it was deleted.

Oh I could be proactive and investigate - were they there - yes or no. What else is there to investigate?

There are many reasons why they could be at the hotel - knobbing is only one of them. The other 20 or so reasons are nothing to do with sex.

Can you not think of other reasons they would be there?

Training course, child protection meeting, networking, cluster meeting, moderation, personal study, planning, collaboration on a project, family support, emotional support, having fun, drinking, having a meal, stopping after a long journey, part of an event for someone (birthday etc), risk assessing, personal reasons, preparation for an event (family fun day), business meeting, a treat for an event, a celebration...

None of which requires and investigation. No teachers need to inform their head or governors why they were somewhere outside of the working day.

Investigate what? Adults socialising or working?
There are many reasons someone could be in Tesco - ph

I am furious as most parental complaints are false allegations and built on gossip and it could ruin a person's life because of someone 'thinking' something without any substance.

Same as if a teacher reported a parent on a thought with no other reason and no evidence and no indication of abuse. It could ruin lives for no reason.

Gloriia · 09/07/2025 09:11

Fetaface · 09/07/2025 09:08

So you'd split up a family for no reason.

Ah so we've gone from it's like buying cereal at Tesco to now thinking it will spilt a family up? 🤔

Gloriia · 09/07/2025 09:09

'As I said, may as well report them being at Tescos and I can investigate what brand of cereal they buy or if they bought a 9 pack of bog roll or a 24 pack.'

Yes hun, exactly the same thing Confused.

Are you really a governor?

Fetaface · 09/07/2025 09:08

Disturbia81 · 09/07/2025 09:05

I would send anonymous notes to the spouses. Can’t believe all the responses..

So you'd split up a family for no reason.

Gloriia · 09/07/2025 09:07

Fetaface · 09/07/2025 09:01

But what is there to investigate from a report of staff at a hotel?

They were there or not? What needs investigating about that event? Nothing.

Would you like me to investigate what car they drove there? How long they were there? What kind of payment they made?

What? It isn't being slack saying that there is no investigation when someone says please investigate two teachers at a hotel.

For what crime? Tell me what it should be an investigation about....being at a hotel is not investigation worthy.

As I said, may as well report them being at Tescos and I can investigate what brand of cereal they buy or if they bought a 9 pack of bog roll or a 24 pack.

There has to be a focus for an investigation. There isn't a focus.

Maybe we should investigate why parents are at the park at a weekend. Ludicrous.

Edited

Well, as a pp has very patiently explained to you repeatedly we don't know what the op knows. They only posted twice. So they should present their concerns and let the governing body <who I hope are more proactive than yours> investigate and take action.

It isn't the same as chatting to Shirley from the office in the aisle at Tesco, you know that and we know that. Why are you so furious at a parent having great concerns about their HT's ability to do their job effectively as they are allegedly making such great errors in judgement?

Disturbia81 · 09/07/2025 09:06

Gloriia · 09/07/2025 08:53

Surely there's a happy medium, a HT who is isnt shagging their juniors and is good at their job.

Yep, not too hard to ask is it? So gross if she’s younger too.

Disturbia81 · 09/07/2025 09:05

I would send anonymous notes to the spouses. Can’t believe all the responses..

Fetaface · 09/07/2025 09:01

Gloriia · 09/07/2025 08:58

'I am a governor. This would not get assessed nor investigated'

Well maybe some governors have slacker standards but we've had many posters say issues like this have been investigated at their schools and staff have been sacked. Not every governing body will sit on their hands only discussing the Christmas tombola saying la la la when concerns are raised about Head teachers.

But what is there to investigate from a report of staff at a hotel?

They were there or not? What needs investigating about that event? Nothing.

Would you like me to investigate what car they drove there? How long they were there? What kind of payment they made?

What? It isn't being slack saying that there is no investigation when someone says please investigate two teachers at a hotel.

For what crime? Tell me what it should be an investigation about....being at a hotel is not investigation worthy.

As I said, may as well report them being at Tescos and I can investigate what brand of cereal they buy or if they bought a 9 pack of bog roll or a 24 pack.

There has to be a focus for an investigation. There isn't a focus.

Maybe we should investigate why parents are at the park at a weekend. Ludicrous.

Gloriia · 09/07/2025 08:58

'I am a governor. This would not get assessed nor investigated'

Well maybe some governors have slacker standards but we've had many posters say issues like this have been investigated at their schools and staff have been sacked. Not every governing body will sit on their hands only discussing the Christmas tombola saying la la la when concerns are raised about Head teachers.

Gloriia · 09/07/2025 08:53

AnotherDayInParadise43 · 08/07/2025 21:20

Be careful what you wish for. I know of a school that had a fab HT, who was doing similar. He was removed, but replacement HT nowhere near as good. If the school is reasonable and your kids doing OK you might want to leave it be.

Surely there's a happy medium, a HT who is isnt shagging their juniors and is good at their job.

Fetaface · 09/07/2025 08:46

Didimum · 09/07/2025 08:41

You do not know this as you’re not one of the governors being given the details.

I am a governor. This would not get assessed nor investigated.

Reporting Mrs X and Mr Y possibly at a hotel. I would laugh at a report like that.

If someone said Fetaface Mrs X and Mr Y were maybe seen at a hotel. I would say....and what??

They would then likely say but they have been seen.

And? There is nothing to investigate.

They were there or they weren't. Nothing to investigate.

Fetaface · 09/07/2025 08:44

Didimum · 09/07/2025 08:40

I didn’t say they would investigate it, I said the OP should feel able to report anything that concerns her.

You do not know the details. Only OP does. She can relay them as she wishes to the correct channels.

You used the words - assess them. So same thing. It is a synonym.

You said the governors can then assess them. Nope they will not.

The OP has said she had a thought about them and then hasn't seen them at the hotel but someone has. That is the information.

If they were seen doing something she would say - they were seen necking at the hotel or she was seen on her knees at the hotel. She said they were seen at a hotel.

Being seen doesn't warrant a report or an 'assessing'. What it does warrant is a report of harassment.

Didimum · 09/07/2025 08:41

Fetaface · 09/07/2025 08:37

The suspicions are nothing just that they think it.

There would be no assessment as there is nothing to assess.

Just like there is no assessment of someone at a hotel as there is nothing to assess.

You do not know this as you’re not one of the governors being given the details.

Fetaface · 09/07/2025 08:41

Gloriia · 09/07/2025 08:37

'There is no difference between seeing someone at a hotel and at a Tesco.'

🤣🤣

There really isn't. You are walking into a building and seeing someone.

What is the difference?

Tesco has a little clock tower and the hotel doesnt?

Didimum · 09/07/2025 08:40

Fetaface · 09/07/2025 08:36

There is no information if there was it wouldn't be a suspicion!

The school will not investigate two members of staff at a hotel.

Washing cars and Tesco are relevant because if you report someone for being at a hotel it is on a par with reporting someone for being in Tesco or seeing them at the carwash.

There is no difference between seeing someone at a hotel and at a Tesco.

You can't investigate a teacher for being at a hotel. It just will not happen.

I didn’t say they would investigate it, I said the OP should feel able to report anything that concerns her.

You do not know the details. Only OP does. She can relay them as she wishes to the correct channels.

Fetaface · 09/07/2025 08:40

Gloriia · 09/07/2025 08:36

'You might find you lose your kids if you go away this summer as visiting a hotel is a huge crime and punishable with removal of children.'

How do you seriously come up with such utterly irrelevant comparisons?!

Because reporting someone for being at a venue will not result in any investigation which a teacher could be suspended for.

They want someone investigated for doing a normal everyday thing.

This person thinks it will happen but it will not.

So if that is the case then a teacher can report her at a venue with her kids with no other information which she could have her kids removed.

Same thing - reporting a non event.

Both are the same - going to a hotel - apparently it is an issue worthy of investigation if you are a teacher so surely it is if you are a parent. Same applies.

Gloriia · 09/07/2025 08:37

'There is no difference between seeing someone at a hotel and at a Tesco.'

🤣🤣

Fetaface · 09/07/2025 08:37

Didimum · 09/07/2025 07:19

Completely depends what their suspicions were based on, and be assessed by the right people.

The suspicions are nothing just that they think it.

There would be no assessment as there is nothing to assess.

Just like there is no assessment of someone at a hotel as there is nothing to assess.

Gloriia · 09/07/2025 08:36

'You might find you lose your kids if you go away this summer as visiting a hotel is a huge crime and punishable with removal of children.'

How do you seriously come up with such utterly irrelevant comparisons?!

Fetaface · 09/07/2025 08:36

Didimum · 09/07/2025 07:17

Suspicions based on information. You do not know the details of that information.

I don’t ’want someone reported’. I have consistently said I think anyone with serious concerns should feel able to report through the correct channels. Nor have I claimed to know the details.

Washing cars at Tesco isn’t relevant. I didn’t say you could sack a teacher for going to a hotel. Nor did the OP.

There is no information if there was it wouldn't be a suspicion!

The school will not investigate two members of staff at a hotel.

Washing cars and Tesco are relevant because if you report someone for being at a hotel it is on a par with reporting someone for being in Tesco or seeing them at the carwash.

There is no difference between seeing someone at a hotel and at a Tesco.

You can't investigate a teacher for being at a hotel. It just will not happen.

Gloriia · 09/07/2025 08:34

poetryandwine · 08/07/2025 22:26

It is the supervisory professional power one partner holds over the other that is the problem. Part of this is that the HT is expected to be the neutral referee in disputes between teachers or a teacher and a parent, etc.

No one will get a fair hearing in a dispute with this teacher unless the Governors replace the HT in this role. But that amounts to making the affair public.

Yes it is so wtf that some don't see these very basic issues.

Also funny, though not surprising, that some teachers don't think their school have a code of conduct 🙄.

Didimum · 09/07/2025 07:19

Fetaface · 09/07/2025 06:54

Someone might have a feeling/thought about you and report you with no reason, evidence or anything else. Just because they want to and that is perfectly fine to report a parent just because.

You might find you lose your kids if you go away this summer as visiting a hotel is a huge crime and punishable with removal of children.

Because you going to a hotel in the summer means someone can report you to the police.

Edited

Completely depends what their suspicions were based on, and be assessed by the right people.

Didimum · 09/07/2025 07:17

Fetaface · 09/07/2025 06:50

They are not allegations they are suspicions which are thoughts.

You don't and yet you want someone reporting for socialising which nothing will be investigated.

Do you report teachers at your kids school for going to Tesco or getting their car washed?

This is on a par with that - reporting teachers for being human and doing normal human things like visiting a building.

You can't sack a teacher for going to a hotel or that would be all teachers in the UK out of a job.

Suspicions based on information. You do not know the details of that information.

I don’t ’want someone reported’. I have consistently said I think anyone with serious concerns should feel able to report through the correct channels. Nor have I claimed to know the details.

Washing cars at Tesco isn’t relevant. I didn’t say you could sack a teacher for going to a hotel. Nor did the OP.

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