To refuse to buy bleach?

I only use bleach to clean my toilet and my kitchen sink, although I quite like dettol which I know some people hate the smell of but I don’t. I have extremely sensitive airways and bleach goes straight to my chest.

It's perfectly possible to clean properly without bleach.

I'm not on mains sewers and can't put bleach into my septic system

Hypochlorous acid is even more effective at killing certain germs and bacteria!

The fact that, unlike bleach, it isn’t toxic to humans is a massive bonus. The WHO recommended it for killing Covid.

The toilet! Genuinely how do people take a shit / have other members of their family take a shit and then not use at least a small bit of bleach down the loo 🤢🤮 Please don’t tell me you have one of those poo particle toilet brushes that sit by the loo with human waste on them all day- particularly if you don’t use bleach on that either 🤢

You can't do that if you have septic tank. It would kill the tank and then you'd have much grosser problems than a few skid marks.
We're only a two-person household and we both just clean any skids with a bit of bog roll and a hand wash after. I also clean the toilet bowls weekly as they get a bit iron stained from the water here otherwise - it's my sponge's final job before being binned, and I use a bit of bicarb.
Spotlessly clean toilets, no bleach, and a happy septic tank.

They contain peroxide, so not a chlorine based bleach

There are two types of bleach, chlorine based and oxygen based. Most Ecover and similar green products contain the latter - so they do contain bleach! Most people who think they are avoiding bleach are probably not.

The cleaning liquids were pointless, I may as well have sprayed plain water on the shower screen. Thankfully I'd only bought the trial packs as it all went in the bin.

But our drinking water is so full of chlorine that I can't see how adding a bit more is going to make that much difference. For those saying that bleach is toxic, I hope you filter your water.

I've stopped buying ecover and Method since finding out about who owns them these days

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Perhaps get her some of this? It's expensive though so she'd have to use it sparingly and only in the toilet and shower tray.

Yanbu. We don't use bleach a d don't have any problems cleaning. Sounds like she's being lazy.

Smol dishwasher tablets, like most other dishwasher tablets contain bleach.

Bleach does not remove limescale. It just bleached the stains that it holds onto.

Bleach doesn’t affect limescale, only an acid-based descaler cleaner will.

I use Ecover for everything but the toilet, their toilet cleaner doesn’t work.

I do think bleach is essential for the level of whiteness I want in my toilet. Without it limescale builds up and even a toilet cleaner doesn't remove it as effectively. Yabu.

If you object so strongly to your cleaner demanding you buy bleach for her you could consider doing your own cleaning. I do all my cleaning, I am disabled and a grandmother and I do NOT use bleach and never have! I care more for the environment, particularly waterways, seas and oceans than to put chlorine bleach down the drain…….sheer ludicrous and so dangerous to sea life!

I think bleach should be used sparingly but not banned altogether. I don't use much but I still want it occasionally.

Bleach doesn’t physically clean a toilet, you need to mechanically remove the debris too.

Bleach is very effective against dangerous microbes and mould, and it’s the one agent that they can’t develop a tolerance to.

Care needs to be taken when using it with other chemicals, especially vinegar, as it can release toxic substances like chlorine gas.

This. I'm a cleaner and I had to use bleach in the bathroom the other day. Without going into details, nothing else would have done. My client uses eco products and they don't work. They use eco laundry products and the clothing smells. Things still smell unclean after I've used them. I bring my own products which aren't strongly smelling, as I have issues with my respiratory system, but they are non eco products. Bleach is fine if it's diluted properly and used only in areas where it's really needed.

Mil always used Ecover toilet cleaner and her toilet always stank even when I'd scrubbed it and scrubbed it.

Smol washing liquid capsules were ok (we got some that were in a relative's cupboards after they passed away) but I wouldn't bother ordering more, and didn't try any cleaning liquids or anything.

Unless you’ve got a really old toilet bowl with surface damage the bleach alone isn’t actually getting it as clean as you think.

Stains need something to stick to. Most of the time that’s limescale. Putting bleach down the loo removes the colour but not the stuff itself. Over time, if you stop using bleach, the stains will return and always in the same pattern/place. That’s because the limescale is still present.

Stop using the bleach for a bit and concentrate on getting rid of the limescale. That’s not easy, but once you’ve done it you can keep the bowl clear by throwing some citric acid or strong vinegar down there every week.

Whatever you do don’t mix bleach and acid cleaner together.

Your house your rules but depends on which is more important to you - having her as a cleaner or the no bleach.

one compromise is if the eco products are fine but take longer for her to do the job either reduce what she has to get through in the time, or extend her time/pay her more.

If it’s making her job harder and she’s not willing to compromise then it’s really your call, you’re not being unreasonable asking her to not use bleach but she’s also not being unreasonable to walk away from the job if she’s that attached to it.

I got taken in by one of the FB ads for Smol - absolute crap! Back to the good old fashioned stuff!

Have you tried Cif cream cleaner lemon? It claims to be 100% natural cleaning particles derived from limestone. (Obviously you still need to follow the instructions to use it sensibly) It’s great on bathroom grout and tiles.