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Went down husband’s phone

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PulpKitchen · 07/07/2025 16:38

I’ve been down my husband’s phone and found messages between him and his male friend. It goes like this:

  • My husband sends a picture of his female colleague who he is due to stay away with for work “This is her”
  • His friend: Nice! She looks a bit like (your wife)
  • Husband: She’s 22 years old (aubergine emoji)
  • His friend: Are you going to try it on?
  • Husband: No, a few years ago maybe, but I’m more senior than her at work now, so can’t overstep the line. She’s so sweet though (aubergine emoji)
  • His friend: We’ll see after a few pints
  • My husband: 😂

OK. What do I do here? This trip was in the past and has happened, and I don’t think the woman went anywhere near my husband, however this conversation has disturbed me. I don’t want to split or anything drastic. Should I let him know I’ve been down his phone? If I do, he’ll change his password? I’m so angry. Am I being unreasonable?

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ALPS100 · 10/07/2025 09:24

MemorableTrenchcoat · 10/07/2025 08:50

Indeed. However, someone asked if it was actually illegal, I replied that it was, and virtually no one wants to accept that simple fact.

I didn't realise it was illegal! Do the same legalities apply to reading someone's diary?
(I have just googled but didnt really get a yes or no)

MemorableTrenchcoat · 10/07/2025 08:50

Keepingoin · 10/07/2025 08:46

Snooping without consent is illegal. Snooping when it's a mutual agreement to share phones is not illegal.

OP obviously didn't have consent but I doubt women who suspect their DH is having an affair would be charged with finding evidence on his phone.

Indeed. However, someone asked if it was actually illegal, I replied that it was, and virtually no one wants to accept that simple fact.

Barnbrack · 10/07/2025 08:47

Splitting because your husband has been joking about sexually approaching a younger colleague isn't drastic, it's the only response surely

Keepingoin · 10/07/2025 08:46

MemorableTrenchcoat · 10/07/2025 07:51

OP may well have seen him entering his PIN and memorised it. Come on now, they live together, this isn’t hard to fathom.

None of what you have said changes the fact that snooping on someone’s phone is illegal, as confirmed by @eastegg above.

Snooping without consent is illegal. Snooping when it's a mutual agreement to share phones is not illegal.

OP obviously didn't have consent but I doubt women who suspect their DH is having an affair would be charged with finding evidence on his phone.

MemorableTrenchcoat · 10/07/2025 07:51

MuckFusk · 10/07/2025 00:30

If he had a PIN the OP wouldn't have been able to get into it, so there's no basis to suggest he had secured his phone from her.

My ex started using a PIN. You can guess the reason why. I didn't find out by snooping, but if I had been able to snoop I might not have gotten HPV and be under the gun for cancer for the rest of my life. So hell yes I defend snooping if there actually is suspicious behaviour and your partner won't even talk to you about it. What else can you do?

I would defend a man snooping (given he wasn't an abuser) because I do not believe married people should ever have secret lives. When your partner starts keeping any part of his/her life a secret from you, that marks the effective end of your relationship.

OP may well have seen him entering his PIN and memorised it. Come on now, they live together, this isn’t hard to fathom.

None of what you have said changes the fact that snooping on someone’s phone is illegal, as confirmed by @eastegg above.

ThymeandBasil · 10/07/2025 06:51

MasterBeth · 09/07/2025 21:24

Because I understand that jokes are made between like-minded people and that there is a long history of appalling misogynistic and disrespectful jokes between appalling misogynistic and disrespectful men.

They have typed this exchange with a grin on their faces. They are like sniggering schoolboys looking at schoolgirls knickers. They are treating the young woman like a seaside postcard. They are laughing at how naughty this conversation is. It's all a joke!

I am sorry I can see there is no point in arguing with you.
Why you persistently in defending this behaviour by trying to minimise it as a " joke" is beyond me.
No wonder men like OP's H get away with behaving just how they like when some people are happy to excuse it as a joke.

I hope the very fact OP has seen this conversation has opened her eyes to how her H views his female colleagues as a pool of potential.sexual conquests.
I hope she sees his roving eye and emotional unavailability are not acceptable in whatuis supposed to be a loving, life partnership.
And I hope she takes steps to build a better life for herself than she has and will have with this disguting man.

MuckFusk · 10/07/2025 00:30

MemorableTrenchcoat · 09/07/2025 08:30

As I mentioned to another poster:

In DPP v McKeown, DPP v Jones ([1997] 2 Cr. App. R. 155, HL, at page 163), a computer was defined as “a device for storing, processing and retrieving information.”

Clearly this applies to a smartphone (or indeed any mobile phone), tablet etc. The legislation makes no mention of snooping within a marriage. However, if someone own a smartphone, and has enabled security protection such as a PIN or biometrics, I think it’s reasonable to assume that no one, including a spouse, is authorised to access the data it contains, unless they have been explicitly told otherwise. I suspect very few people would be rushing to defend a man snooping on his female partner’s device.

If he had a PIN the OP wouldn't have been able to get into it, so there's no basis to suggest he had secured his phone from her.

My ex started using a PIN. You can guess the reason why. I didn't find out by snooping, but if I had been able to snoop I might not have gotten HPV and be under the gun for cancer for the rest of my life. So hell yes I defend snooping if there actually is suspicious behaviour and your partner won't even talk to you about it. What else can you do?

I would defend a man snooping (given he wasn't an abuser) because I do not believe married people should ever have secret lives. When your partner starts keeping any part of his/her life a secret from you, that marks the effective end of your relationship.

ButteredRadish · 09/07/2025 23:09

@EscapeToSuffolkThats not what gaslighting means. It’s not just some fancy alternative term for lying! It’s when someone tries to convince you that something didn’t happen when you both know that it did happen. Look it up if you don’t believe me!

PaLilli60 · 09/07/2025 22:27

Jen345 · 09/07/2025 21:46

I am so sorry for these crazy responses. You absolutely have done nothing wrong, we are human, if we suspect something is off we want to know. I would have done the same checking his messages.
People acting like you’re checking someone randoms medical records!!
he’s your husband, and he was so out of order.
I don’t think that was just banter, that was too far. I wouldn’t be able to leave it personally but that’s just me. However I want you to know I am a very normal person and you did nothing wrong, mumsnet isn’t the best place to ask advice, there are a lot of strange people on here

Oh my god yes this. Please believe us normal folk that you haven't done anything wrong. And thank god you looked otherwise you may never have known

Petitchat · 09/07/2025 22:23

thepariscrimefiles · 09/07/2025 18:54

Every single man without exception? Even your dad, your DH or your adult son? Every single man objectifies women and speaks/texts about them in a sleazy, derogatory way?

I have worked with a lot of men who would never do that.

But how would you know?
These two creeps did it quite secretly..

PissOffJohn · 09/07/2025 21:53

MasterBeth · 09/07/2025 21:24

Because I understand that jokes are made between like-minded people and that there is a long history of appalling misogynistic and disrespectful jokes between appalling misogynistic and disrespectful men.

They have typed this exchange with a grin on their faces. They are like sniggering schoolboys looking at schoolgirls knickers. They are treating the young woman like a seaside postcard. They are laughing at how naughty this conversation is. It's all a joke!

Well op's h can have a good snigger if she decideds to divorce him and take half their wealth and pension.
He can snigger whlst she refuses to cook, clean and have sex with him.

And he can snigger if she decides to make love to someone else who has slightly more brain cells than her h.

The possibilities are endless with this joke.

It's called consequenses.

Jen345 · 09/07/2025 21:46

I am so sorry for these crazy responses. You absolutely have done nothing wrong, we are human, if we suspect something is off we want to know. I would have done the same checking his messages.
People acting like you’re checking someone randoms medical records!!
he’s your husband, and he was so out of order.
I don’t think that was just banter, that was too far. I wouldn’t be able to leave it personally but that’s just me. However I want you to know I am a very normal person and you did nothing wrong, mumsnet isn’t the best place to ask advice, there are a lot of strange people on here

MasterBeth · 09/07/2025 21:25

PissOffJohn · 09/07/2025 21:10

I believe men think we are the joke.

Women are to be reduced to a fuck, it's funny.

HA HA HA

There, does that please the men.
We obviously arn't intellegent enough to get it.

This is exactly it.

Petitchat · 09/07/2025 21:24

How are you feeling now OP?
Any resolution?

Thinking of you.....

MasterBeth · 09/07/2025 21:24

ThymeandBasil · 09/07/2025 21:08

Oh my goodness the dreaded laughing emoji!

Well when the laughing emoji was available in the reaction.button I, and many other posters, had people reactiong to our serious and not funny posts, with the laughing emoji. Which is why the laughing emoji was removed.

So just having a laughing emoji in no way makes this disgusting discussion between thses 2 men a joke.

And I still fail to comprehend how any woman or decent man could actually even suggest this misogynistic and disrespectful conversation was a joke.

Because I understand that jokes are made between like-minded people and that there is a long history of appalling misogynistic and disrespectful jokes between appalling misogynistic and disrespectful men.

They have typed this exchange with a grin on their faces. They are like sniggering schoolboys looking at schoolgirls knickers. They are treating the young woman like a seaside postcard. They are laughing at how naughty this conversation is. It's all a joke!

Petitchat · 09/07/2025 21:16

PissOffJohn · 09/07/2025 21:10

I believe men think we are the joke.

Women are to be reduced to a fuck, it's funny.

HA HA HA

There, does that please the men.
We obviously arn't intellegent enough to get it.

Of course we're not intelligent enough to get it.

We're just women, categorized as:

  1. Mother figures
  2. Fuckable
  3. Unfuckable

In my lifetime I've been placed in all three....

PissOffJohn · 09/07/2025 21:10

ThymeandBasil · 09/07/2025 21:00

I'm failing to see how you talk with such certainty that this was a joke.

Unless you are Op 's H or his pal then how do you know it was supposed to be a joke?

It's a man sending a picture of a young woman colleague to his pal, obviously as a followup to an earlier discussion about this woman, and discussing how much he'd like to fuck her but that he won't try it on because hes worried about the repercussions at work.

It doesnt read like a joke. Its not funny - as jokes are supposed to be. So on what great authority do you say it's a joke? Because there is absolutely nothing to say it is a joke.

And, as already discussed, if by some amazing chance you were right that it was intended as a joke, it is just as much a betrayal and just as much total disrespct for his marriage vows, as it being said in all seriousness. So why are you and others so hung up on proving it was a joke?

I believe men think we are the joke.

Women are to be reduced to a fuck, it's funny.

HA HA HA

There, does that please the men.
We obviously arn't intellegent enough to get it.

ThymeandBasil · 09/07/2025 21:08

MasterBeth · 09/07/2025 20:39

I wasn't defending it. I didn't say it was funny. I said it was a joke. These are not the same thing

Is it a creepy and loathsome joke? Yes.

Is it an indefensible joke? Yes.

Is it a demeaning joke? Yes.

Is it a joke designed to be shared privately between two sexist idiots that looks pathetic and shameful when it's been found by one of the idiots wives? Yes.

So why am I saying it's a joke?

Well, a big clue is that there is literally a laughing emoji at the end of the messages.

Oh my goodness the dreaded laughing emoji!

Well when the laughing emoji was available in the reaction.button I, and many other posters, had people reactiong to our serious and not funny posts, with the laughing emoji. Which is why the laughing emoji was removed.

So just having a laughing emoji in no way makes this disgusting discussion between thses 2 men a joke.

And I still fail to comprehend how any woman or decent man could actually even suggest this misogynistic and disrespectful conversation was a joke.

Petitchat · 09/07/2025 21:07

It's not only not funny, it's downright nasty!

I wonder what the young lady in question would say if she knew she was a secret victim of predatory "colleagues"?

This is someone's daughter or girlfriend.
Fuck sake, can't even go to work in peace!

PissOffJohn · 09/07/2025 21:04

Maninpeace · 09/07/2025 20:23

You don’t need to see anything funny about it though. Not a single person cares if YOU found it funny, It wasn’t meant for you, nor was it meant for his wife to read. I’m not defending it either, but if he and his mate found it funny, in whatever way they did then that’s alright because it was a private exchange between two people.

Not all men talk like that, some do though. Guess what, some women do too.

As for your last paragraph about people who talk like that “revealing themselves”, I think you’re way off there and are looking at it entirely from your own perspective. I’m sure you do and say things that others think make you look like a certain type of person. I do and I’ve only read a couple of your posts, one of them was jumping on me for calling out someone who automatically, after a single op accused their husband of cheating or being prepared to cheat. Just because he said something he and his mate found funny. Completely illogical.

As much as you believe people are entitled to freedom of speech and privacy, the world is changing.

Organisations do not want this, men who cause problems, you find it fun, companies find it a ball ache and just see poor behaviour that intrudes into other poor behaviours.

The 1970's are gone, just as our period in time now will look upon predatory men as archaic, unfortunately op's husband has been exposed and judgement has been made, that's tough, he want's it to be seen as a joke and so do you, but we don't.

We want to win, women are fed up with this kind of behaviour from male partners, don't like it, tough, a smaller pool of women will become available, as times change and they are changing.
You are being watched and your privacy invaded every day of your lives, in fact your feeder threads probably thow up young Yuogoslavian women I bet, your texts, your facebook, your tik tocs and instagrams all paint a picture of who you are. Big brother is truly here and it doesn't like creeps.

Honestly this monitoring of men's behaviour can only be better for women, calling it out, denying the joke.

Good luck and try to teach your son's better ways because dinosaurs do not survive.

It's a pity men do not live two lives because they honestly need that time in comparison to women just learning how to behave.

ThymeandBasil · 09/07/2025 21:00

Maninpeace · 09/07/2025 20:23

You don’t need to see anything funny about it though. Not a single person cares if YOU found it funny, It wasn’t meant for you, nor was it meant for his wife to read. I’m not defending it either, but if he and his mate found it funny, in whatever way they did then that’s alright because it was a private exchange between two people.

Not all men talk like that, some do though. Guess what, some women do too.

As for your last paragraph about people who talk like that “revealing themselves”, I think you’re way off there and are looking at it entirely from your own perspective. I’m sure you do and say things that others think make you look like a certain type of person. I do and I’ve only read a couple of your posts, one of them was jumping on me for calling out someone who automatically, after a single op accused their husband of cheating or being prepared to cheat. Just because he said something he and his mate found funny. Completely illogical.

I'm failing to see how you talk with such certainty that this was a joke.

Unless you are Op 's H or his pal then how do you know it was supposed to be a joke?

It's a man sending a picture of a young woman colleague to his pal, obviously as a followup to an earlier discussion about this woman, and discussing how much he'd like to fuck her but that he won't try it on because hes worried about the repercussions at work.

It doesnt read like a joke. Its not funny - as jokes are supposed to be. So on what great authority do you say it's a joke? Because there is absolutely nothing to say it is a joke.

And, as already discussed, if by some amazing chance you were right that it was intended as a joke, it is just as much a betrayal and just as much total disrespct for his marriage vows, as it being said in all seriousness. So why are you and others so hung up on proving it was a joke?

MemorableTrenchcoat · 09/07/2025 20:53

TomPinch · 09/07/2025 20:19

I regret asking the question and dropping you in it, but I appreciate that you replied.

No worries :-)

MasterBeth · 09/07/2025 20:43

Maninpeace · 09/07/2025 20:23

You don’t need to see anything funny about it though. Not a single person cares if YOU found it funny, It wasn’t meant for you, nor was it meant for his wife to read. I’m not defending it either, but if he and his mate found it funny, in whatever way they did then that’s alright because it was a private exchange between two people.

Not all men talk like that, some do though. Guess what, some women do too.

As for your last paragraph about people who talk like that “revealing themselves”, I think you’re way off there and are looking at it entirely from your own perspective. I’m sure you do and say things that others think make you look like a certain type of person. I do and I’ve only read a couple of your posts, one of them was jumping on me for calling out someone who automatically, after a single op accused their husband of cheating or being prepared to cheat. Just because he said something he and his mate found funny. Completely illogical.

I agree with everything you say... except your conclusion that this all right.

It's not all right for men to reduce women to sex objects to leer at.

MasterBeth · 09/07/2025 20:39

ThymeandBasil · 09/07/2025 19:08

Well i just read the post you made defending OP's H and your theory that it is a joke of " conspiracy and bonding ".

I cant believe you went to such lengths to defend the indefensible.

It just really doesn't explain how a married man with young children telling his pal he wants to fuck his young woman colleague is funny. Because it isnt. And his friend didn't appear to find it funny. He just assumed when OP 's H had had a few drinks he would be trying it on with this young woman.

I wasn't defending it. I didn't say it was funny. I said it was a joke. These are not the same thing

Is it a creepy and loathsome joke? Yes.

Is it an indefensible joke? Yes.

Is it a demeaning joke? Yes.

Is it a joke designed to be shared privately between two sexist idiots that looks pathetic and shameful when it's been found by one of the idiots wives? Yes.

So why am I saying it's a joke?

Well, a big clue is that there is literally a laughing emoji at the end of the messages.

PissOffJohn · 09/07/2025 20:38

Genevie82 · 09/07/2025 20:28

100% true here!

Because it's becoming socially unnaceptable to behave in this manner, at work, at home, through messaging, these men will become obsolete, these places are the last bastion for hanging onto male dominance and disrespect over women.

They will defend their sport of harrasing women to their death.

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