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M&S feeling the pinch ?

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HorsesAreRunningOn3LegsTonight · 07/07/2025 10:40

I’ve had an M&S credit card for years ( mainly because the cost of my yearly fee is far out weighed by the incredible free worldwide travel insurance I get for myself and my husband)
Up until this year, when it was your birthday they would send you a gift.
In the past five or six years ago, it was a afternoon cream tea, then for the last couple of years it’s either being a £10 gift voucher or I’m sure at one time it was a £15 gift voucher.
Well, I received this years “birthday gift “ - 10% off my next shop!
Not the most exciting “ present “
Am I being unreasonable ?

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VickyEadieofThigh · 10/07/2025 14:32

Trustyourinnervision · 07/07/2025 11:19

I disagree re Co-op @Eaumyword they have removed all staff partner 10% discount cards plus staff would also get double discount on payday and the next day, that’s also been withdrawn. We used to get our dividend points but now only in store member offers like Tesco etc.
i think they’re all feeling the pinch tbh.

Our Coop card isn't registering the member card discounts - this has been going on for weeks now.

purser25 · 10/07/2025 14:28

My birthday treat was. 10% as well I suppose it is better than nothing

confusedlots · 10/07/2025 14:23

Yes they’re clearly feeling the pinch. They always do 20% off school uniforms at the start of July, I always stock up for the next school year, and this is the first year they’re not doing it. Think that won’t go in their favour though as lots of people, including me, will look elsewhere.

lilkitten · 10/07/2025 14:08

I wouldn't mind, considering their current situation. Better they reel back in on expenses than go under.

ouch321 · 10/07/2025 11:01

Gall10 · 07/07/2025 11:33

Newcastle shop is chockablock with clothes…both summer and autumn styles. When the cyber attack first started there was quite a few food item not in stock but they seem to have all come back now.
Had lots of useful sparks offers on my card last couple of weeks.

All hail M&S…I personally love the place!

Mine says you're up to date with your Sparks offers but there's nothing there

rosie1873 · 10/07/2025 10:52

Bluevelvetsofa · 07/07/2025 11:05

I asked an employee the other day, how I could access online shopping, since my account t no longer works, following the cyber attack. He said the only way was to contact head office. Knowing that it’s almost impossible to do so; phones and emails aren’t answered, it looks as though I’m no longer able to be an online customer. He said that they have lost a huge amount of customers since the attack and I think they will struggle to reclaim them.

I get mine online through Ocado and delivered to the door.

SliceoCakeAuntSally1 · 09/07/2025 07:56

Used to bank and shop with them. It was a great shop that looked after its loyal customers. Now more like a wanna be posh Primarnie.

MellersSmellers · 08/07/2025 19:53

I got an email from M&S with a £5 online voucher to compensate me for less-than-normal service in April! Tbh i don't remember any poor service in April....
Anyway, what other credit card company gives a prese to on someone's birthday! Just be thankful for the money you've already had!

Polarpup · 08/07/2025 19:10

Odd as when you logged in online you would have been asked to change your Password because if the cyber attack and before you could use the site. I did that and all is well.

Polarpup · 08/07/2025 19:07

Eaumyword · 07/07/2025 10:49

Yanbu!
I know M&S have had a blow, but so have Co-op etc and they have treated their customers far better, with an interest to retain loyalty and honest comms.
I'm cross because we often have coffee in the cafe and Sparks buy 6 get 1 free coffee offer hasn't worked since April, despite the card being wanded. I'd have been mollified by just 1 free coffee loaded onto Sparks as a thank you for your support, but nothing.
I suppose they have to fund Stuart Machin's £7m or thereabouts salary and bonus somehow...😡

You might want to check with them as I have all my offers, £25 voucher to spend. Free coffee for the next few months.. Sparks offers in my online account.

Jamesblonde2 · 08/07/2025 18:02

Eh, I’ve had a M&S credit card for years and never had this. Feeling robbed!

Fizzyfish67 · 08/07/2025 17:57

HorsesAreRunningOn3LegsTonight · 07/07/2025 10:40

I’ve had an M&S credit card for years ( mainly because the cost of my yearly fee is far out weighed by the incredible free worldwide travel insurance I get for myself and my husband)
Up until this year, when it was your birthday they would send you a gift.
In the past five or six years ago, it was a afternoon cream tea, then for the last couple of years it’s either being a £10 gift voucher or I’m sure at one time it was a £15 gift voucher.
Well, I received this years “birthday gift “ - 10% off my next shop!
Not the most exciting “ present “
Am I being unreasonable ?

I’m really angry with them. I’ve been more than accommodating with them over their cyber attack. They hadn’t delivered my online order and I waited until they were able to credit it back to my card. However they remained silent about customer data being accessed I now get email from persons unknown pretending to be M&S which I didn’t get before.
however the worst thing for me was purchasing a dress from them for a wedding. I couldn’t find the receipt. Infact I think the assistant came over to help as the dress was tagged and asked me did i want no receipt. This isn’t usually a problem as they track everything through the bar code. However this is now not the case. They want a receipt, or they won’t even give you a credit.
even worse I had a faulty item that I wanted to return. No without a receipt. They knew it was new stock. We did have that receipt but the point is they are not being clear that they d changed their returns policy. I’ve stopped going. Next I buy on account and return no issue.

Snorlaxo · 07/07/2025 20:58

@swimlyn M&S IT is run by a third party company so you wouldn’t expect any M&S heads to roll.
As @Daisyvodka said, companies never pay the ransom. They build a new system because you can’t trust the hackers to not release the data or trash your systems anyway. It’s exactly what you are supposed to do.
I don’t spend much at M&S but I feel for the employees and hope that there are no job losses due to the attack. I was coincidentally in M&S today and it was busy and the stock levels appeared high.

Mindymomo · 07/07/2025 20:47

Don’t think they are feeling the pinch, they’ve just spent £6 million on revamping my local store, the changing rooms now have upholstered chairs, toilets are now unisex individual cubicles with hand basin in each, new food court, bakery and hot food, new cafe.

Daisyvodka · 07/07/2025 20:42

swimlyn · 07/07/2025 13:14

In any well organised business, heads would have rolled for being so unprepared for a cyber attack and causing such major problems. After all, when anyone queries the huge salaries for ‘management’ they always trot out “we have to pay that for the best people”.

From reading the computer press articles, I gather that the top management dealt with the hackers by telling them to eff off. (or words to that effect) Not the brightest way to deal with a huge threat. The threat was very real as it turned out. As far as I know, to date, nobody has been sacked.

If you personally feel that M&S are so wonderful, keep putting money their way. I feel they lost the plot many years ago, and now spend very little with them compared to ten years ago.

Tell us you know nothing about the topic at hand without telling us...
The advice from all governing bodies and security experts globally is to never pay a ransom.
You could pay a ransom and they've stolen your data and will sell it to the highest bidder anyway. You could pay a ransom and them not release your systems and ask for more. Neither of these are hypothetical suggestions by the way, they happen daily, globally. Certain groups will manipulate you to pay a ransom then come back later and reveal theyve taken your data and ask for a second ransom.
By not paying the ransom they've done exactly what they are supposed to do.

Would you expect to be sacked if you worked in a shop and someone robbed it? You could have the best security in the world and someone could still hack you, its impossible to be impenetrable. Sure, there could be systematic failings that meant security was below standard, but these are world class criminals and investigations into these things take MONTHS. And this would be prime lawsuit territory. You wouldn't fire an otherwise exemplary employee for leaving the door to your shop unlocked. Its just really not that simple.

HorsesAreRunningOn3LegsTonight · 07/07/2025 18:22

Mine is the original one where I get free travel insurance for myself and DH until we are 80 ! They dropped it to 70 a few years ago, then stopped it as far as I know. But mine is still valid.
I tweeted M&S and it’s correct - a 10% discount is this years birthday treat.

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tuvamoodyson · 07/07/2025 18:02

FenellaFeldman · 07/07/2025 11:20

It's worked for me, I got my free coffee last week.

Me too.

Yorkshiremum80 · 07/07/2025 18:01

Boomer55 · 07/07/2025 17:49

I’ve had my usual vouchers and haven't had to change my password or anything else.🤷‍♀️

If you had an M&S account at the time of the attack I urge you to change your password, and if you used that password for any other sites change it there too.

Boomer55 · 07/07/2025 17:49

I’ve had my usual vouchers and haven't had to change my password or anything else.🤷‍♀️

Bjorkdidit · 07/07/2025 17:26

Ive never had birthday presents from M&S but since the cyber attacks, Co-op have started giving us £1 off our shop on their offers each week along with 50 p off milk.

So seeing as pretty much the only thing we ever buy from them is milk, that's effectively a free 4 pint bottle of milk each week which is nice but makes no sense for the Co-op.

Yorkshiremum80 · 07/07/2025 17:11

It's not just M&S, Halifax have scrapped their monthly £5 reward on their current account

JoshLymanSwagger · 07/07/2025 17:08

There were a few things I wanted from M&S, all were in stock and available on their website...right up until you log in. Then everything was out of stock.

I've given up and put an order in to Tu for clothes and Dunelm for household stuff.

Yorkshiremum80 · 07/07/2025 16:59

swimlyn · 07/07/2025 13:14

In any well organised business, heads would have rolled for being so unprepared for a cyber attack and causing such major problems. After all, when anyone queries the huge salaries for ‘management’ they always trot out “we have to pay that for the best people”.

From reading the computer press articles, I gather that the top management dealt with the hackers by telling them to eff off. (or words to that effect) Not the brightest way to deal with a huge threat. The threat was very real as it turned out. As far as I know, to date, nobody has been sacked.

If you personally feel that M&S are so wonderful, keep putting money their way. I feel they lost the plot many years ago, and now spend very little with them compared to ten years ago.

So you think they should have paid the criminals? Even if they had there is no guarantee they would have got access back?
There was no threat, they lost access to all of their systems.
They refused to pay a ransom and rebuilt their systems which is what most companies would do. Co op also fell victim, however because of what happened at Marks and Spencers they actually saw the hackers were gaining access and someone literally went to the data center and pulled the plug out of all the hardware. That's the only reason it wasn't as bad.
Why should anyone be sacked? Yes they were attacked as are many companies unfortunately they did have some lapse processes and that of course made it worse.
It won't have been down to one person. My husband works in cyber security and thank god he isn't at risk of getting sacked of his company gets hacked. They get multiple attempts a day as does my company.

Daisyvodka · 07/07/2025 16:48

You can get insurance against cyberattack, but it can get very, very complicated and they might not have got anywhere near the money back they lost.

The group that targeted them are currently one of the no.1 cyber criminal groups on the planet. They are fast, clever and have a lot of resources. Security is a really tricky balance - there are lots of companies that are massively underrepresented, but two things are also true from my experience in the industry.

  1. No company, and i mean noone, is ever completely secure. Its simply not possible.
  2. If you aimed for 'as secure as you physically can be' as a business of M&S's size and industry, then prices would be sky high and noone would shop there. Its a very expensive game.
godmum56 · 07/07/2025 16:18

Hendil · 07/07/2025 12:21

I think you have to have the right card, there are a few different one, mine is a rewards card which you pay £10 a month for and you get vouchers, a birthday voucher and hot drink vouchers, no travel insurance, OP probably has a different one with this and also travel insurance included, probably a higher fee, there will also be one with no monthly fee but no vouchers, gifts, drinks etc.

yeah mine is only the credit card, also the free sparks card, not the one you pay for cos I am a skinflint