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ModerateOrGoodOccasionallyPoor · 07/07/2025 09:11

Is it me, or are there a suspiciously excessive number of abortion threads lately?

They always seem to follow a bit of a formula as well. Long backstory of how accidental pregnancy happened, insistence that there was genuinely no desire to get PG, complicated relationship or lifestyle issues, loads of reasons why having the baby would be a massive spanner in the works, the OP often says she knows she should probably terminate but then asks 'what should I do?' There is often some sort of added dilemma or complication attached as well, such she's already got loads but it's her partner's only child and he wants to keep it, or he's recently widowed, or she is, or it's twins, or she's found out really late, or, or.

It's always a new user name and often not much engagement from the OP on the thread, past the initial post or a few posts dropped in just to keep the thread going.

I've been around for years and years and I've never seen as many of these threads as I'm seeing lately. There are new ones daily, it seems. What's the rub?

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Digdongdoo · 07/07/2025 10:30

Yes it's very odd. Always elaborate and always taking their time to make a decision. Rather sinister imo. Very "look at how hard my life is and I'm still going to keep the baby, aren't I good". Awful manipulation.

languedoc1 · 07/07/2025 10:21

UsernameMcUsername · 07/07/2025 09:44

I don't find it at all surprising given UK abortion / accidental pregnancy stats. There were 250,000 abortions in England and Wales in 2022 (the most recent year there are figures for). Add in Scotland and Northern Ireland and we're probably averaging 300,000 abortions in a year. The number of accidental pregnancies must be much higher, when you allow for all the ones which end in miscarriages or births rather than abortions...it can't be less than 400,000? So 400,000 women are working through this every year. That's going to throw up a few threads on a forum called Mumsnet - its actually surprising there aren't more. My guess is that factors like cost of living are pushing up the number of 'unwanted' abortions - women who feel torn about the pregnancy but just don't feel the money adds up. So more dilemmas. Its a bit tinfoil hat to think that an emotive issue hundreds of thousands of women go through is popping up 'too much' on a forum aimed at women of the relevant age group.

I was shocked by these numbers tbh. And that is despite the fact that 10-year olds are taught at school where the baby is coming from and how to prevent it. I mean, it's not working, is it? It's like abortion has become just another contraceptive method.

PeriMenopauseOrPregnant · 07/07/2025 10:17

I’ve recently posted about this (not in AIBU) but I am definitely a genuine person. I name changed so it wouldn’t be outing but I have been on Mumsnet for many years. I am definitely a genuine person who is really going through it at the moment.

TheAutumnCrow · 07/07/2025 10:14

No-one minds genuine, reasoned debate on topical issues affecting women, @UsernameMcUsername. But the OP is highlighting something else - an insidious and artificially constructed series of posts deliberately trying to establish a false, unhelpful and at times malevolent narrative.

TheAutumnCrow · 07/07/2025 09:54

Dontlletmedownbruce · 07/07/2025 09:50

Maybe the reason for the anonymous posts rather than open debate is because so many women in real life are not open to debate at all on this issue. Anyone who doesn't fully support very liberal access to termination is called names and shut down immediately.

It’s access to choice that the site as a whole tends to support, I’ve found over many years here.

You’ll also find huge support for women who don’t want to be pressured by male partners to have an abortion.

MsPug · 07/07/2025 09:52

Anytime anything a bit controversial is posted there's a flurry of similar threads after , I actually posted about it last week. Weirdos

CurlewKate · 07/07/2025 09:52

Dontlletmedownbruce · 07/07/2025 09:50

Maybe the reason for the anonymous posts rather than open debate is because so many women in real life are not open to debate at all on this issue. Anyone who doesn't fully support very liberal access to termination is called names and shut down immediately.

I honestly don’t think this is true. They certainly aren’t routinely called murderers….

TheAutumnCrow · 07/07/2025 09:51

Kirbert2 · 07/07/2025 09:48

I almost feel like it goes in cycles.

Last week it was full of pip/disability threads
This week it seems to be all about abortions

The PIP ones were mostly SPADS and journalists I thought. Definitely suspicious though, like you say.

The abortion ones, at least in part, seem to be flying a flag on behalf of those whacko foundations based in the US.

ladyofshertonabbas · 07/07/2025 09:50

ooh yes, well spotted.

Dontlletmedownbruce · 07/07/2025 09:50

Maybe the reason for the anonymous posts rather than open debate is because so many women in real life are not open to debate at all on this issue. Anyone who doesn't fully support very liberal access to termination is called names and shut down immediately.

ModerateOrGoodOccasionallyPoor · 07/07/2025 09:49

Vitrolinsanity · 07/07/2025 09:44

I think it follows the Lily Allan podcast. It’s got the there but by the grace of God posters in a lather.

It's been going on since before that, but that has added to it, for sure.

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Kirbert2 · 07/07/2025 09:48

I almost feel like it goes in cycles.

Last week it was full of pip/disability threads
This week it seems to be all about abortions

ModerateOrGoodOccasionallyPoor · 07/07/2025 09:48

boysmuminherts · 07/07/2025 09:45

I thought it was because, say you find yourself in that situation you may google for advice and then a recent mumsnet post comes up, so you post there?

Yes, I'm sure that does happen sometimes.

That's almost certainly not what's happening here, on a recent almost epidemic-like basis.

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Blurrywateryeye · 07/07/2025 09:48

I agree, suspicious but if genuine then I guess they have named changed as they might not want anyone to know their previous posts.

PeapodMcgee · 07/07/2025 09:48

I think a lot of posts, in general, are written by those very young kinds of twats who work for MPs? Garnering public opinion.

ExtraOnions · 07/07/2025 09:47

American fundamentalist “Christians” trying todo over here, what they have done over there. They are funding groups, funding legal action etc.

Awful people … nothing Christian about shouting at women outside clinics.

TheAutumnCrow · 07/07/2025 09:46

Indeed, @SumUp. Women benefit from encouragement to explore their options as soon as possible. In the UK and many other countries exploration of these options is free, and should be freely available.

There are many signposting resources online, for the different areas of the UK.

Lioncub2020 · 07/07/2025 09:45

I think it is driven by the recent law change. It makes it a "topical" subject.

boysmuminherts · 07/07/2025 09:45

I thought it was because, say you find yourself in that situation you may google for advice and then a recent mumsnet post comes up, so you post there?

Vitrolinsanity · 07/07/2025 09:44

I think it follows the Lily Allan podcast. It’s got the there but by the grace of God posters in a lather.

UsernameMcUsername · 07/07/2025 09:44

I don't find it at all surprising given UK abortion / accidental pregnancy stats. There were 250,000 abortions in England and Wales in 2022 (the most recent year there are figures for). Add in Scotland and Northern Ireland and we're probably averaging 300,000 abortions in a year. The number of accidental pregnancies must be much higher, when you allow for all the ones which end in miscarriages or births rather than abortions...it can't be less than 400,000? So 400,000 women are working through this every year. That's going to throw up a few threads on a forum called Mumsnet - its actually surprising there aren't more. My guess is that factors like cost of living are pushing up the number of 'unwanted' abortions - women who feel torn about the pregnancy but just don't feel the money adds up. So more dilemmas. Its a bit tinfoil hat to think that an emotive issue hundreds of thousands of women go through is popping up 'too much' on a forum aimed at women of the relevant age group.

SpicyBasil · 07/07/2025 09:44

Maybe a new subsection is needed

pointythings · 07/07/2025 09:44

YANBU, I have been thinking much the same thing. Also lots of threads about how feminism is bad and we should all go back to 'traditional ' values, dress modestly, etc. There's an agenda, and it's about putting women back in their box.

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