To think “neurodivergent” is being used too casually and too often?

well like another poster said there is actually no such thing as NT and we're all diverse and have a wide spectrum of different personality types and traits which are all part of being human. Some obviously need help and support in life many do not.

It's about time we understood this stuff. So it's a hard NO from me on this.

Isn't there? It's somebody without a diagnosable, neurodivergent condition. There are many people like that.

But its not an example is it? An example would be something thats actually been said not something ridiculous that nobody's ever come close to saying.

Maybe there are more ND people. Maybe they are actually NT and people who think they are NT are the diverse ones?

Ok I was using this as an example not an actual thread lol my word my point was read threads on m every other poster referring to ADHD n autism

brilliant response

This one?

cannot cope with my 9 year old anymore. She is the most defiant, aggressive, and argumentative child I've ever met. Her meltdowns began when she was about 2-3 and initially I thought it was the terrible 2s but they continued. I mentioned it to school who found no issues and still don't. She comes home and every evening is filled with demands, screaming, name calling, meltdowns to the point the neighbours must think I don't parent her at all or that she's being seriously abused.
I've punished her, tried reward charts, even tried buying her at times when I'm that overwhelmed and she just jumps from one thing to the next. She could get a sweet from the shop and then she wants the pool filling. Her brain is literally jumping from one thing to the next. It could be absolutely anything. I've tried to identify triggers or identify issues at school but she doesn't like to communicate any anxiety she has, and when she does it's a few days later. Even so, she has friends (she speaks to them on the phone when playing roblox), but she doesn't always understand social cues or identify them. I've been to the doctor who said I have to go through to school who in turn say I have to go to the doctor and I currently have an appointment next week.
It's affecting my other two daughters and my relationship with my partner. We're all treading on eggshells around her and the only time it does stop it when we absolutely blow up which involves putting her in her room, shouting at her or when her elder sister is so fed up she hits her. I'm at my wits end. I don't know if this is ADHD, autism or something else but its certainly not normal behaviour. She just cannot self regulate and I have no idea how to help her anymore. Has anyone else experienced this please and what happened?
Thank you

Ok so I’ve just read that thread.

The op says nothing about her child waking up 5 minutes early.

Its a mum who is struggling to cope with her child’s behaviours and is seeking support from her GP.

What is your point?

Really?

A wealth of examples of people posting one simple single perfectly normal thing such as my child wakes up 5 minutes early ( as pp claimed) and half of the respondents claim nd?

Thats just so plainly not true that I dont even know what to say to it.

You’ve not read the thread then.

My million is perfectly safe.

Read the parenting aibu pages on this you have a wealth of examples

Omg yes. It’s so boring.

Uhhuh.
And when I look it will say that the child wakes up 5 minutes early and because of that (and only that) posters are saying the child must be autistic? Right?

I won't go on there and find lots of other things gs listed that can reasonably be considered atypical will I?

I'll literally read the waking up thing and nothing else?

Ok. BRB.

There is one specific poster who posts multiple threads like that. She seems to have anxiety, and is desperately looking for (non-existent) evidence that her entirely developmentally normal-sounding DD might be neurodiverse. She does indeed post threads which say “DD was playing with her dolls then went off to play with her toy kitchen, might that be ADHD? I said no to sweets and she cried, could that be PDA?”

That is one person with clear MH problems though, not a societal trend.

Parenting…Can’t cope with 9 year old any more….active now…fill your boots.

I agree and I have a formal diagnosis of Autism in addition to being a SEND education academic/professional.

If you can link to one single post on mumsnet that says that, I will give you a million quid.

Have u read any Mumsnet posts my child woke up five mins earlier then normal every other answer is o they must have autism or ADHD have u had them assessed

Have you been through the diagnostic criteria?
It simply has nothing to do about puddles or saying no. The criteria is stringent and took us 2 years but I think it's a lot longer now. You must meet the criteria in at least two settings and this needs to be evidenced by professionals. We had educational psychologist, occupational therapist, play therapist and school evidence just to be referred.

Jeez threads like these are exactly why my dc can't reveal their diagnoses at work. So much ignorance

I think the issue is less people who are actually neurodiverse (official diagnosis or not), and more people who maybe “used to be a bit OCD” or “felt a bit bipolar about something” and now think they have “neurodivergent traits” because they lose their keys, aren’t great at small talk, or are selfish, despite not fitting any of the other diagnostic criteria.

”We’re all a bit neurodiverse/is anyone actually neurotypical anyway” etc - nope, offensive and appropriative.

I fucking hate the stupid "we're all a bit autistic / nd" bullshit.

No.

Just like we've not all got a bit of down syndrome or a touch of cerebral palsy or a little prader-willi

And you see this is the problem. This is what dismissing ND looks like. Oh we're all a bit autistic oh we've all got a touch of ocd is dismissive of the challenges people who are nd face. Its next door to denying it exists at all.

So No. You're not all a little bit... You're ND if you've got an ND diagnosis.

We are not All On The Spectrum and things would be better for actually ND people if this bullshit would stop being spouted as a way of minimising and dismissing actual struggles.

Totally agree it like little Johnny jumping in puddles o he must have ADHD o little Jenny said no to me they must have ADHD no questions asked