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... to think that Nigel Farage will be our next PM?

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ohime · 06/07/2025 11:04

Or, more accurately: AIBU to be afraid that truly nasty piece of work Nigel Farage who has, by all accounts, always been utterly useless at (or at least completely uninterested in) the actual business end of governing will be our next PM because everyone is so fed up with all the other parties being, variously or all at once, so corrupt, incompetent and useless that we've collectively abandoned all hope? I will never vote for Farage, who is a horrible man, or any of his party which keeps having to fire people for being just a teensy bit too overtly racist - but it seems from the polls that for many people the choice against the status quo outweighs what we may be choosing. (For an example, I can't believe that Farage's stated position that DOGE in the US didn't go far enough with its swinging cuts to the social safety net would be popular with UK voters who recently elected a government on the basis that it would reverse years of Tory austerity... not that that's worked out so well...)

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noblegiraffe · 06/07/2025 11:41

yellowspanner · 06/07/2025 11:38

I would love Nigel Farage to be the next Prime Minister. I think he would sort immigration, cut welfare and lower taxes

He wants to put taxes on your Amazon purchases in order to give tax breaks to business owners.

FloofyBird · 06/07/2025 11:41

Jibberjabba · 06/07/2025 11:37

He won’t and the young people coming through are generally v well informed so their vote will make the difference to the aging dumbos

Are they voting though? It's often the younger generations who don't

Fringle · 06/07/2025 11:41

There’s almost certainly a lot of bad stuff to emerge about Reform and to happen soon enough now they have some local power, that will turn people off. They’ll still do well though - out of voter exasperation if nothing else. But it would be disastrous were he to be PM.

Labour’s problem is that they have no excuses. They must stop the lying and hypocrisy. They need to stop trying to have it all ways: you can’t give into Labour backbenchers and shouty unions whenever they get restless and at the same time pretend to be taking care of the economy. I have a feeling Miliband’s expensive zealotry will sink them as well.

Starmer looks politically very wobbly to me. Even a brief economic crisis in the next year and he’ll be forced out by his own party. Virtually every commitment or promise Labour made in opposition has been broken or shown to be hollow.

While the Tories remain irrelevant, it’s Reform that will make the running. Sadly.

gamerchick · 06/07/2025 11:41

How though, they're not a political party are they? Will they even be allowed? I'm not clued up on that stuff.

He's also said he doesn't want to be PM in the past and reform are realising that being in charge of shit is hard work.

He's all gob and make money the easy way. There's no way he'll want that kind of hard graft.

neverbeenskiing · 06/07/2025 11:40

I really, really hope not.

But then I remember thinking that the idea of Boris actually becoming PM was laughable. Lots of things are unthinkable until they happen.

BlueJuniper94 · 06/07/2025 11:40

strawlight · 06/07/2025 11:38

What I don’t understand is this: the Lib Dems are (or were) the third biggest party, so why the hell aren’t they sorting themselves out and coming up with a really strong leadership and manifesto while the other two are so unbelievably dreadfu? Surely they’d be onto a winner?!

Because who on earth are the LibDems? What are they? Other than some vague safe protest vote for middle class people. They're nothing.

HRTQueen · 06/07/2025 11:40

Farage is a campaigner he doesn’t actually like to do the work that being an involved serious politician you have to do and he isn’t going to get their on just that. American politics is different when it can be about the campaign

also he needs financial backing

He is relatively quiet at the moment when he absolutely could be all over the press he is probably having a bit of a break

strawlight · 06/07/2025 11:38

What I don’t understand is this: the Lib Dems are (or were) the third biggest party, so why the hell aren’t they sorting themselves out and coming up with a really strong leadership and manifesto while the other two are so unbelievably dreadfu? Surely they’d be onto a winner?!

yellowspanner · 06/07/2025 11:38

I would love Nigel Farage to be the next Prime Minister. I think he would sort immigration, cut welfare and lower taxes

Jibberjabba · 06/07/2025 11:37

He won’t and the young people coming through are generally v well informed so their vote will make the difference to the aging dumbos

1apenny2apenny · 06/07/2025 11:35

Labour got in on a protest vote, if they carry on like they are they won’t be in power for many years after the next election. Thank goodness.

I don’t think it’ll be NF actually but I’m not sure who it’ll be yet. If the Conservatives can do a complete reset and distance themselves from Boris then they may have a chance. Unless this country sees wide led reform then things are going to get markedly worse.

L1ghyn1ngBug · 06/07/2025 11:34

https://hopenothate.org.uk/2025/06/13/dropping-like-flies-reform-loses-nine-councillors-in-six-weeks/

Let’s see how the Reform councillors pan out first shall we. 😏

Also I’m not sure Farage wants the job,too much like hard work and Reform policies seem a bit thin on the ground.

EdwinaIronside · 06/07/2025 11:31

Not unreasonable at all. At the very least they’ll be the largest party in a hung parliament. The only thing that can stop that outcome is some kind of Reform implosion, or Labour getting their act together in a very significant way.

The two main parties have paved the way for this shit show. Ordinary people don’t see any meaningful change regardless of which of the two main parties they vote for. They aren’t listened to, they’re dismissed. Neither Labour or Conservatives think there is anything fundamentally wrong with the status quo, they just think it needs to be managed better. I’m afraid most people don’t see it that way.

I don’t want this to come across as a pro-Reform post. I think they’ll be a total disaster. They offer simplistic solutions to fundamentally complex problems. However, their analysis of what the problems are is sometimes spot on, and like it or not, they chime with a large proportion of the population.

I won’t be voting for them, but I don’t blame anyone for doing so - and the blame for this situation lies solely with the “mainstream” political parties that have snoozed and just let this happen.

noblegiraffe · 06/07/2025 11:29

ThejoyofNC · 06/07/2025 11:24

I certainly hope he is.

At this point just to upset the boring idiots who just keep saying "aaaah he's so racist" on repeat.

I've been seeing posts on twitter from people saying 'I voted for Donald Trump to own the libs and now I'm losing my Medicaid and I'm scared'.

Perhaps a case of be careful what you wish for.

Comedycook · 06/07/2025 11:29

I don't disagree with everything he says...I don't agree with everything either.

He won't be prime minister though....

Dufff23 · 06/07/2025 11:28

Well I’m glad we don’t have a presidential system - the polls are a vote for Farage as PM, seat by seat though, the reform candidates will mostly be dross so this won’t turn into the seats predicted. Labour and the tories will recover a bit by then.

Butna lot of people do want real change .

Mezzoprezzo · 06/07/2025 11:28

ThejoyofNC · 06/07/2025 11:24

I certainly hope he is.

At this point just to upset the boring idiots who just keep saying "aaaah he's so racist" on repeat.

I agree. Besides, he was fab on I'm a celebrity.

BlueJuniper94 · 06/07/2025 11:27

Cattery · 06/07/2025 11:24

The stars are aligning. He will seize his chance. He’s all talk. He’s a grifter. He won’t be able to do anything he’s claiming he will. He spouts populist views repeating what the man on the street wants to hear. Dangerous times ahead.

You are correct, he is all talk. People will see this in due course and it'll be Rupert Lowe they turn to

Hendil · 06/07/2025 11:27

BlueJuniper94 · 06/07/2025 11:26

I think it'll be Rupert Lowe actually

I wouldn't be surprised.

BlueJuniper94 · 06/07/2025 11:26

Ohmybiscuits · 06/07/2025 11:26

It's this kind of statement that means Reform are likely to get in! Calling people stupid and dumb just pushes them further in the other direction. Some of the concerns people have are valid, ignoring them and a sweeping brush saying they are stupid does nothing to help. Its exactly what happened in the US elections and the democrats still couldn't understand it when it happened - I have no idea why as it's so bloody obvious. The left/Labour need to start thinking about this seriously or we will end up with Farage as PM.

Shhh... let them carry on

BlueJuniper94 · 06/07/2025 11:26

I think it'll be Rupert Lowe actually

Ohmybiscuits · 06/07/2025 11:26

HelpMeRonda · 06/07/2025 11:21

If people were dumb enough to vote for Brexit then they're certainly dumb enough to vote for Farage as PM.

It's this kind of statement that means Reform are likely to get in! Calling people stupid and dumb just pushes them further in the other direction. Some of the concerns people have are valid, ignoring them and a sweeping brush saying they are stupid does nothing to help. Its exactly what happened in the US elections and the democrats still couldn't understand it when it happened - I have no idea why as it's so bloody obvious. The left/Labour need to start thinking about this seriously or we will end up with Farage as PM.

Trickytrixter · 06/07/2025 11:26

Screamingabdabz · 06/07/2025 11:23

And this rhetoric is why people vote for extreme right wing political parties. Well done.

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I could not agree more - I am a lifelong Labour, remain voting, Guardian reader (etc) and I'd never vote for Reform / Brexit but if people just continue to call people who do/ did thick and ignorant {etc) then we'll get nowhere, except maybe a Reform government.

Cattery · 06/07/2025 11:24

The stars are aligning. He will seize his chance. He’s all talk. He’s a grifter. He won’t be able to do anything he’s claiming he will. He spouts populist views repeating what the man on the street wants to hear. Dangerous times ahead.

L1ghyn1ngBug · 06/07/2025 11:24

Trickytrixter · 06/07/2025 11:23

I sincerely hope not, but yes he probably will.

How?