... to think that Nigel Farage will be our next PM?

The BBC below covers the increase this year.

Yes,but Drs and engineers…erm racism…diversity…tolerance

The BBC below covers the increase this year.

Labour are no where near ‘smashing the gangs’.

That was their pledge, which is failing. It’s no wonder the polling reflects that.

Small boat crossings to UK in first half of year up 48%, figures show | BBC News

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gjLQJnwKGb0

Putin's poodle - Vlad has had very good returns on his psyop bets.

Oh no, she doesn't mean data like that!!

Which statistics. I mean tell me you have no understanding of the volume of statistics that are or there with different focuses, compiled by different people at different times, without telling me.

What topic do you want me to look at the figures on? Do you even know?

Numbers, years, increase, countries of origin, reason, success of asylum claims, where in the UK is affected, numbers against projections, numbers without context, reported by the UK, other countries, the home office, local authorities. There are endless variables.

Do you actually know which data you are referring to? I am genuinely curious to look it up?

I am starting to suspect that someone has told you there is data (not what it is, whom collated it etc) and you don't actually know.

How can you expect people to decision make on that kind of heresay?

Labour did a terrible job of education. Building schools was good but education itself, shockingly terrible. They dumbed down educational we slipped in global league tables. The aim of sending 50% of young people to university was plain stupid. All int did was suppress was graduate wages as people came out with largely useless degrees and huge debt. While STEM subjects were ignored even though the court needs people in those field and we don’t provide enough of our own. And just to add injury to insult, they created a Ponzi scheme with international students, most of whom come to proper universities for proper education. But it caused a bogus student industry to spring up with either low standard universities or totally fake colleges ‘selling’ student visas. Today, students are the second largest group of asylum seekers after the channel migrants.

As for how does uncontrolled migration impact anyone. Read up on net contribution, tax and how the majority of immigration today is low skilled. We are literally bringing people into one country to pay for them to live.

It’s not rocket science to know that when over 50% of people already here are net takers, then you add a city the size of Leeds each year with more net takers, and the net contributors are leaving the country in their hundreds of thousands, what the consequences will follow.

This old right wing trick is very tedious. If you’re going to bandy stats about show where you got them from otherwise they’ll be assumed to be confected as they are above. Last year 88% of claims were refused, whereas just 24% were in 2022. It looks as if this government is doing what it promised.

https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/sn01403/

Still not found the google search function, then? (Other search engines are available)

Still not found the google search function, then? (Other search engines are available)

All I can see here is a lot of criticism of previous governments and still absolutely no suggestions as to how these issues you have raised will improve.

What fiscal policies will make the economy stronger than in the periods you refer to etc.

I understand frustration with previous governments and I feel quite politically homeless at this time. But focusing on immigration is a red herring. Can you articulate the ways in which you feel you and your family are negatively affected by immigration? And what reform will make better?

I am genuine in my desire to understand other people's mindsets. It's important.

I think there were some positives in the the governments above, the Tony Blair government did an outstanding job with education (I say this as someone who works in this field and has done for many years). They did a shit job with foreign policy, and I agree about the tax credits. The cost of living is at crisis point but what needs tackling is poverty wages, working conditions (e.g. zero hour contracts), profiteering off housing making it unaffordable and it causes resentment to people on tax credits/later UC who are working full time etc.

I haven't got many positive things to say about the Tories to be fair. I think Truss was manipulated like a puppet so she could be made a scapegoat.

I think one of the big issues is that of potential war in the Middle East. That has the potential to destabilise economy, increase the number of refugees in the world etc but I don't see many reform voters talking about this.

I honestly am confused about what positives would be brought about by reform being in power. I just can't see any.

Statistics on? Published by? When?
Just a little clue...

Or have you heard someone chucking unsubstantiated figures around and taken it as gospel...

We don't know what labours policies on education and the economy are? Seriously...

It's too large to link but their fiscal plan, costed, is on the party's website; there is a document called 'breaking down the barriers to opportunity' which set out with their manifesto their education plans. Some reforms around SEND are already underway.

You may not know what their plans are if you haven't looked for them and read them but they are out there, published.

Sorry is it elitist of me to actually read policies before I comment on them?

Statistics on? Published by? When?
Just a little clue...

Or have you heard someone chucking unsubstantiated figures around and taken it as gospel...

I don’t think we know what Labour’s policies are on all this do we?

Yeah honestly…no brain power whatsoever required. All there,

I'd vote anyone who will actually do something about immigration and will stop the boats. I'd much prefer Lowe to Farage.

Since you are ‘genuinely’ asking. I will genuinely try.

I don’t think Reform will be able to get done what the country needs. But that’s not the point.

We have had 28 years of rot that started in 1997 with nu Labour. And it so deep seated, that it will take a shock of gargantuan proportions for something to change within the political establishment.

Blair and Brown were wrong on just about everything. They inherited a strong economy from Major and Clarke at one of the most politically stable periods in global history. And pissed it up the wall. None of their decisions stood the test of time.
Creating a bloated welfare state by making the majority dependent on tax credits and letting low wage culture set in so employers could be subsidized by the taxpayer rather than invest in automation.
Opening the borders to mass immigration. Immigration and change are inevitable. But this pace never was.
Selling our gold before gold prices sky rocketed
Starting the cycle of government debt that now has us at 100% debt to gdp ratio
And finally, being war criminals and de-stabilising Iraq and Syria, the consequences of which we live with to this day.

Then came ‘call me Dave’. A guy you wouldn’t pay to clean your shed. Continued and perpetuated the rot by never investing in infrastructure and having 0 grip on his party.

Maybot was an unmitigated disaster. As well as making a hash of Brexit negotiations, she signed into law net 0 without any public debate, leaving us with the highest energy prices in the world.

Johnson was a corrupt and incompetent lowlife, who used Covid to line the pockets of his cronies, while trying to massage economic growth, unsuccessfully, by driving net migration to a million.

Truss was a footnote in history with the right diagnosis about supply side reforms, but couldn’t organize a piss up in a brewery, let alone enact policies to make those reforms happen.

Sunak was a useless ‘piss in the wind’ kind of dude who had printed a borrowed £1 trillion during Covid to facilitate rampant corruption and then looked all wide eyed and shocked that inflation rocketed to nearly 20%.

And now we have Two Tier and his merry band of clowns. Everything is worse than it was a year ago. Who’d have thought that was even possible. Food inflation nearing 10%, gilt yields higher than when Truss was around, illegal immigration higher than ever, top rate rate taxpayers leaving the country, taxes higher than ever, economic growth nowhere in sight, and welfare and public spending is so out of control, the house of cards could easily collapse.

Reform won’t solve this. But what it may do is that it will consign Labour and Tories in their current form, to the dustbin of history. No one who is in parliament now should be anywhere near the legislature. It may take a shock like a Reform government for a sensible centre right revival to the conservatives, with a completely new crop of MPs, maybe 10-15 years from now . The Tories are so far gone, that it seems unlikely, but what else is there.

I very much doubt he'll ever be PM. But there is a chance we'll have a Conservative-Reform coalition. I hope so anyway. Mainstream politicians have made it perfectly clear they are not going to do anything about immigration. Well if they're not going to listen, I'll try Reform. Everywhere I look in my home town I see groups of young immigrant men wandering around. My local woods have been cut down to make way for two massive new estates, a second massive estate has been built at the other end of the village, and now the fields in the centre of the village are being built on as well. I would say that well over half the people who've moved onto those new estates weren't born in the UK. The traffic is so awful many parts of town are no-go areas at certain times of the week.

There is a university near me, and it's open knowledge that students are exploiting the visa system. I have a friend whose son in law works for a university admission department. He says he's raised this problem with the authorities and been told not to make waves (i.e shut your mouth). I want a government that not only tightens the borders but deports illegal immigrants, especially those who break the law. It just shows what a strangehold the left have over this debate that we even need to discuss it. If I entered Australia illegally, I would expect to be deported. And if I broke the law, I would definitely expect to be deported. Christ, I have even seen someone who called for a foreign rapist to be deported described as 'right-wing'! That's how insane some people truly are.

And this pressure on Europe's borders is never going to end. People bang on about declining birth rates, but the world's population is still rising. Africa's birth rate is the highest in the world, and the African population is going to double. I quite like Kemi Badenoch, and wouldn't mind her as PM in a coalition with Reform. If Labour win at the next election I shudder to think what will happen.