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... to think that Nigel Farage will be our next PM?

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ohime · 06/07/2025 11:04

Or, more accurately: AIBU to be afraid that truly nasty piece of work Nigel Farage who has, by all accounts, always been utterly useless at (or at least completely uninterested in) the actual business end of governing will be our next PM because everyone is so fed up with all the other parties being, variously or all at once, so corrupt, incompetent and useless that we've collectively abandoned all hope? I will never vote for Farage, who is a horrible man, or any of his party which keeps having to fire people for being just a teensy bit too overtly racist - but it seems from the polls that for many people the choice against the status quo outweighs what we may be choosing. (For an example, I can't believe that Farage's stated position that DOGE in the US didn't go far enough with its swinging cuts to the social safety net would be popular with UK voters who recently elected a government on the basis that it would reverse years of Tory austerity... not that that's worked out so well...)

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gamerchick · 06/07/2025 19:41

Freud2 · 06/07/2025 19:37

I don't think he has a racist bone in his body - he just want us to be able to control our own borders which most people want if they have.any sense.
In interviews he's the only politician that actually answers the question. Also he speaks from.the heart, rarely uses notes or autocues as the other MPs and our dear Prime Minister does.

And how is he going to do that?

EdwinaIronside · 06/07/2025 19:39

The insult “racist” is thrown about with such abandon that it’s almost entirely lost any kind of meaning.

Freud2 · 06/07/2025 19:37

ThejoyofNC · 06/07/2025 11:24

I certainly hope he is.

At this point just to upset the boring idiots who just keep saying "aaaah he's so racist" on repeat.

I don't think he has a racist bone in his body - he just want us to be able to control our own borders which most people want if they have.any sense.
In interviews he's the only politician that actually answers the question. Also he speaks from.the heart, rarely uses notes or autocues as the other MPs and our dear Prime Minister does.

CleverButScatty · 06/07/2025 19:33

RenoLouis · 06/07/2025 19:28

LOL you are beyond help. Good luck @CleverButScatty

https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-10125/#:~:text=In%20the%202024%20Autumn%20Budget,to%20bring%20it%20into%20effect.

This link focuses just on the VAT, if that helps.

What is your point? Do you not think VAT has been added on. Do you disagree with this move? Approve of it?

SquishedMallow · 06/07/2025 19:29

CyclingAddict · 06/07/2025 11:57

Why can’t people not see that if we carry on the way we are going, where our Taxes are supporting the thousands who come into our country every week, that this country is going to completely collapse?

we already have a drowning NHS, overcrowded Prisons, unsafe roads..

i don’t mind a rise in Taxes to pay for everything, we just need to be able to see where our money is going. Get Britain Great again!

NF is the only one who is talking any sense!

Because they live in a leafy suburb, write fluffy assignments to work in their white collar jobs and the immigrants they work with are educated and working in high earning jobs. They're totally blinkered. I blame universities for spreading Extreme left wing ideologies onto impressionable teens and advertising grass roots working people as "racist bigots ". They'd be in for a very big suprise if they visited a rough block on an inner city or a deprived seaside town. All whilst allowed to attack the very people that are living in these situations and suffering for it. White lesser educated boys turning to Andrew tate not enough of a wake up call ? Men calling themselves lesbians? Men with different cultures regarding treatment of women sexually assualting young girls near refugee centres ? Nope: just racist bigots aren't they the people that dare put the heads above the parapet to voice concern and propose a link ?

And I can speak as someone that grew up in a deprived working class area from a very working class family but now have a life and job that our class obsessed society would label as "middle class" and I've seen both sides. I work with some fucking awesome immigrants: but I'm not so blinkered to realise that the represent the immigrants rocking up on boats into deprived towns. Completely different kettle of fish. But oh no : any opposition, just racist bigots hey. People gave had enough of being silenced. And it's the poor and lesser educated that are being successfully silenced. Guess they matter less ? Easier to call names ? Can't stick up for themselves articulately and veil it like the more educated can ? They've had enough and although I have no skin in the game : I've seen what they see.

CleverButScatty · 06/07/2025 19:29

Julen7 · 06/07/2025 19:27

You will be

Yeah I already posted to say wrong person. It was another poster being hilarious.

Parmaviollets · 06/07/2025 19:28

A latest pole said 290 seats for reform

CleverButScatty · 06/07/2025 19:28

RenoLouis · 06/07/2025 19:13

Closer now, but you’re still not there. Give your ‘precious’ links one more read.

Edited

Have you really edited your post to reference a typo? That's a little embarrassing. Posting on Mumsnet is the closest you get to doing anything meaningful in the world it seems.

The reference is in paragraph 3 to VAT.

What is your point anyway? You seemed to insinuate that there was another 'major' policy that had been missed out of the discussion. Was this what you were on about, that I had paraphrased the VAT changes rather than linking the exact wording?

Now we've clarified that, do you want to link theirs back to the thread topic about the possibility of NF becoming PM?

RenoLouis · 06/07/2025 19:28

CleverButScatty · 06/07/2025 19:24

Although the title makes reference to business rates it's talks about the impact on VAT in paragraph 3. Go past the title.

LOL you are beyond help. Good luck @CleverButScatty

Julen7 · 06/07/2025 19:27

Hendil · 06/07/2025 19:25

I don't want to be here all night

You will be

RenoLouis · 06/07/2025 19:26

CleverButScatty · 06/07/2025 19:22

Responded to wrong person..

Edited

No, to correct my typo. I missed out ‘be’ after won’t

Hendil · 06/07/2025 19:25

CleverButScatty · 06/07/2025 19:18

I think the current Labour government have lots of failings, but I hadn't really liked at this perspective. Can you expand a bit?

I'm in the public sector and feel a little more than the issues we deal with are seen by them (do t think I would in the NHS though).

I don't want to be here all night

CleverButScatty · 06/07/2025 19:24

Although the title makes reference to business rates it's talks about the impact on VAT in paragraph 3. Go past the title.

CleverButScatty · 06/07/2025 19:22

RenoLouis · 06/07/2025 19:19

Arghhh you just posted a link to business rates, I really think this might be beyond you. I know this won’t be a popular view, but I do think there should be a minimum IQ for voting.

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Responded to wrong person..

RenoLouis · 06/07/2025 19:19

CleverButScatty · 06/07/2025 19:01

Nobody was referring to anything other than fees.

Arghhh you just posted a link to business rates, I really think this might be beyond you. I know this won’t be a popular view, but I do think there should be a minimum IQ for voting.

CleverButScatty · 06/07/2025 19:18

Hendil · 06/07/2025 19:16

Labour is really for those that work in the public sector, that is all they are bothered about.

I think the current Labour government have lots of failings, but I hadn't really liked at this perspective. Can you expand a bit?

I'm in the public sector and feel a little more than the issues we deal with are seen by them (do t think I would in the NHS though).

CleverButScatty · 06/07/2025 19:16

CleverButScatty · 06/07/2025 19:01

Nobody was referring to anything other than fees.

Sorry just realised that sounded a bit snotty...was responding to multiple posts.

Hendil · 06/07/2025 19:16

Labour is really for those that work in the public sector, that is all they are bothered about.

RenoLouis · 06/07/2025 19:13

CleverButScatty · 06/07/2025 19:07

They are no longer entitled to not have VAT added to their fees, which they previously were as part of business rates charitable relief. I will have paraphrased this earlier but situation is clearly explained in both, VAT is now being added to fees as they are no longer able to claim an exemption that charities can.

You really are being silly now. The link to gov UK is there in my precious post to avoid ambiguity.

Closer now, but you’re still not there. Give your ‘precious’ links one more read.

WordsFailMeYetAgain · 06/07/2025 19:09

Oh god. I sincerely hope not!!!!

SquishedMallow · 06/07/2025 19:07

Screamingabdabz · 06/07/2025 11:12

I agree he will be the next PM. The mainstream parties continue to ignore and dismiss the concerns of the working classes and their lives get poorer and more hopeless. Labour treat the poor as a problem to solve. Farage - whatever you think of him, snake oil salesman or not - is speaking to them directly. That’s very powerful politically. It’s what Trump did when everyone laughed at the mere idea he’d ever be president. It’ll happen here.

Good post.

CleverButScatty · 06/07/2025 19:07

They are no longer entitled to not have VAT added to their fees, which they previously were as part of business rates charitable relief. I will have paraphrased this earlier but situation is clearly explained in both, VAT is now being added to fees as they are no longer able to claim an exemption that charities can.

You really are being silly now. The link to gov UK is there in my precious post to avoid ambiguity.

Jennps · 06/07/2025 19:06

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RenoLouis · 06/07/2025 19:06

CleverButScatty · 06/07/2025 19:01

It's literally in front of you in black and white. I'm not engaging with this anymore. You are quite ridiculous.

Dear me. This is a perfect example of the Dunning-Kruger effect. Amazing.

CleverButScatty · 06/07/2025 19:01

mrshoho · 06/07/2025 19:00

No they were previously exempt from charging VAT for their services but now they are not. They would have paid VAT on purchases and services they bought but now I assume will be able claim this back. I'm not a tax accountant! They were also eligible for business rate relief due to their charitable status but this has also ended.

Nobody was referring to anything other than fees.

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