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Do you think step parents have a right to stay in children’s lives

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Twicexshy · 06/07/2025 10:08

Name change for privacy as this aligns with a situation I’m personally close to. I just want to get people’s feelings on it. I know this is a very nuanced situation and opinions will be different depending on the individual situation so let’s start with this one. Feel free to weigh in with your own similar stories, criticisms etc.

A man I know, I’ll call him Lance, got in a relationship with a single mum to a very young child. The father to that child had never been on the scene and so Lance took on that role. The child grew up calling him Dad and even after Lance and the mother split he continued to co-parent. Having the child every weekend and up to a week at a time during school holidays. This was normal for some years and in total Lance was in this child’s life as “dad” for a decade. Adoption legally to give him parental responsibility was discussed but never finalised.

The mother decided she had enough of dealing with her ex and was herself moving on to start further family in a new relationship. Lance was now an inconvenience and he was cut off. No further contact.

He is obviously more than upset and feels his son doesn’t know why the contact stopped and will feel abandoned. He has been refused opportunity to say goodbye.

On one hand Lance should perhaps have secured adoption and legal standing before throwing himself in whole heartedly. It has been argued that without it he should have drawn back considerably when the split happened and not tried to assert himself as an equal co-parent. He maintains that he could never do that as he sees this child as his own flesh and blood.

Is this his own fault? Sad but expected? Did he overstep by getting so involved in the first place? Do you think this mother was absolutely in the wrong? Should she have kept stronger boundaries to begin with? Is it wrong for her to cut contact now given how far/long she has let this play out? Or is it her right as a mother to end this charade whenever she likes?

YABU - Step parents need to step off when they split
YANBU - Highly involved step parents who raised a child should have continued contact/some limited rights

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Izz81 · 06/07/2025 14:30

JudgeJ · 06/07/2025 14:18

The MN hypocrisy! She has no rights to any child support from 'Lance' and I hope, as long as she is creating this split, he never gives her a penny, he may want to save for the child's future but she deserves nothing.

Agree with this, why would the guy have to pay child maintenance for a child that isnt his? Im sure he laid down money towards the child over the years but its weird that someone would think “yeah I hope he was paying”….MN’ers should be asking was her deadbeat ex and I assume biological father of the child paying maintenance, because in my experience that really is the bigger issue that somehow too many fathers manage to duck and dive from, even today!! Chances are Lance was paying more than his fair share for the child and the deadbeat mess of an ex was paying zero because of “in between jobs”, “I paid for the school uniform last year” or “Im about to be made homeless so cant give you a penny”….Oh yeah I’ve heard them all!

Doodlebug79 · 06/07/2025 14:26

I was being flippant.
However, if someone takes on the role of 'Dad' or 'Mum' in every sense of the word, then I would have thought they might consider continuing to support that child holistically after a split.
However, with nothing formalised in terms of the adoption, it's easy for the resident parent to cut off contact etc.
And, it's the children that tend to suffer.

Izz81 · 06/07/2025 14:23

Its hard because I think the child should have a say certainly if at the age where they can make decisions, unless any red flag or safe guarding concern, but the mother clearly wants to start a new life without the mess she is having to deal with surrounding her ex (shock horror, far too many cases).

Being a step parent I imagine is tough, there really is nothing legally that means they get to have a say yet can devote years to a child only for the relationship to end and the ex to cut off contact. Ultimately, I think the mother is in the wrong here not taking in to account the childs relationship and the positives of that. However, all step parent type set ups comes with this risk and I guess your friend needs to understand this going forward. Sad though.

JudgeJ · 06/07/2025 14:18

Doodlebug79 · 06/07/2025 11:25

I think, on a case by case scenario, it's about what is best for the child, not about a step-parent's rights.
Presumably, 'Lance' paid maintenance for his step-child after the split, as he saw the child as his son?! Because that's what a responsible father would do.

The MN hypocrisy! She has no rights to any child support from 'Lance' and I hope, as long as she is creating this split, he never gives her a penny, he may want to save for the child's future but she deserves nothing.

JudgeJ · 06/07/2025 14:15

PeapodMcgee · 06/07/2025 10:29

I think Lance should have got off his arse to sort this all out legally, a long time ago.

Or maybe seen his partner for what she was and LTB! The partner is not only bullying him with her selfishness but also the child if there was a close relationship between them. Maybe she didn't want to formalise their relationship with adoption so she could take the easy way out when she felt like it.

LuckyNumberFive · 06/07/2025 14:09

LemonLimeOrangeKiwi · 06/07/2025 13:34

What happens if you have a series of relationships that last over two years, do they all get to apply for contact?

Yes. If you've lived with a child for 2 years (not just partners, can be if you live with your parents too and then stop contact with them) you're allowed to apply to court. That's not to say you're allowed to apply for a child arrangement order, you're allowed to apply for permission to then apply for a CAO. None of it means you'll actually get contact, but you have the right to apply for it.

So if I had a partner of 10 years, split up and refused contact he would be allowed to ask for permission to apply for a CAO. That is either granted or rejected. If rejected, that's the end of it. If it's granted he is then allowed to apply for a CAO in the same way as everyone else would.

BoredZelda · 06/07/2025 14:03

yakkity · 06/07/2025 13:32

Lance couldn’t force this without the mothers ageeement so your anger at lance is unfounded

He didn’t even try.

Guavafish1 · 06/07/2025 13:51

biological mother has caused an emotional imbalance place for her children.

its nor nice and will have emotional consequence on the kid

teksquad · 06/07/2025 13:48

if people are motivated they find out what they need to know.

teksquad · 06/07/2025 13:47

yakkity · 06/07/2025 13:37

You say all this as if people know all of this.

I knew nothing about this until January of this year when I became guardian to 2 young children through a bereavement. I quickly found out.

SixteenClovesOfGarlic · 06/07/2025 13:46

TheWisePlumDuck · 06/07/2025 10:42

No, step parents do not have the right.

Someone should have advised Lance not to get so involved with a child he was not related to and was not intending to legally adopt.

Yep. He's the child's mother's ex boyfriend. For her to send her child off to an unrelated man's house was not appropriate, probably best that has stopped.
If the ex boyfriend wanted any rights over the woman's child he could have done so at any time over the years.

DorothyStorm · 06/07/2025 13:39

LemonLimeOrangeKiwi · 06/07/2025 13:34

What happens if you have a series of relationships that last over two years, do they all get to apply for contact?

Maybe stop moving men into your children’s lives so regularly would answer that specific question.

yakkity · 06/07/2025 13:37

teksquad · 06/07/2025 12:33

It IS as simple as he should have applied for a Child Arrangements Order when the relationship broke down. It costs £350 on gov.uk to apply and it would have incolved a thorough investigation by the court and CAFCASS to assess his suitability and if all had been well he would have had a legal right to remain in the childs life. The fact he didnt do this suggests he wasnt as bothered as the OP is making out.

You say all this as if people know all of this.

LemonLimeOrangeKiwi · 06/07/2025 13:34

LuckyNumberFive · 06/07/2025 10:50

If you live with a child for 2 years or more you have the right to apply to court and ask the judge for permission to apply for a child arrangement order, giving you contact/visitation with the child.

What happens if you have a series of relationships that last over two years, do they all get to apply for contact?

yakkity · 06/07/2025 13:34

Shesellsseashellsnotinmystreet · 06/07/2025 10:50

I divorced an abusive narcissist
. Took me 4 years and to the detriment of both my mh and physical wellbeing to fight him in court to save my dc from him. Lance could be a cunt behind closed doors.

Your situation is specific. Why would you possibly create this scenario regarding Lance when it’s not suggested and therefore not relevant.
you may as well suggest the child is disabled, the mother is a prostitute and Lance is trans.

IveGotAnUnusuallyLargePelvisISwear · 06/07/2025 13:33

No, they absolutely don’t and shouldn’t have a legal right to keep in contact with their ex stepchildren. My husband isn’t the father to my older 2 but he is a wonderful father figure to them (their dad is an abusive cunt). If we ever split up he’d still be in my life as we have a child together but I hope he’d keep in contact with my other 2 and I believe he would, he loves them.

Ultimately, it’s an individual issue- people should do what is right for their own children.

yakkity · 06/07/2025 13:32

PeapodMcgee · 06/07/2025 10:29

I think Lance should have got off his arse to sort this all out legally, a long time ago.

Lance couldn’t force this without the mothers ageeement so your anger at lance is unfounded

Daleksatemyshed · 06/07/2025 13:29

On the Step parenting board a DSM said if she left she'd wouldn't bother with the DSC anymore, there was uproar, posts saying it made them cry, how could she be so cold and wicked. Lance is kind, he sees his DSS for years after he's left and he's been cut off completely, not even allowed a phone call and he's still getting a hard time on here.
A lot of men are rubbish, they deserve all the bad mouthing they get on here but shouldn't there be praise for the good guys too?

LuckyNumberFive · 06/07/2025 13:11

Mooselooseinmyhoose · 06/07/2025 11:31

Some of these replies are insane. It's not as simple as he should have "just" adopted the child or got a child arrangements order. He was entitled to believe the mother would put the child above her relationship and be devastated she didn't.

I have a step daughter from my ex husband. I had her with my ex husband 50 percent of the time from before she was 2. She still stays with me one night a fortnight with full support or her father (my ex husband) and her mother with whom I get on well. It is that way because she wants it to be. If there comes a point when she doesn't want it to be then it will change.

Mum is wholly in the wrong here to stop the child seeing someone who was an important part of their life.

It is that simple. When the relationship broke down he had a choice, go to court or don't. Just like any other father.

teksquad · 06/07/2025 12:33

It IS as simple as he should have applied for a Child Arrangements Order when the relationship broke down. It costs £350 on gov.uk to apply and it would have incolved a thorough investigation by the court and CAFCASS to assess his suitability and if all had been well he would have had a legal right to remain in the childs life. The fact he didnt do this suggests he wasnt as bothered as the OP is making out.

Twicexshy · 06/07/2025 12:29

Mooselooseinmyhoose · 06/07/2025 11:31

Some of these replies are insane. It's not as simple as he should have "just" adopted the child or got a child arrangements order. He was entitled to believe the mother would put the child above her relationship and be devastated she didn't.

I have a step daughter from my ex husband. I had her with my ex husband 50 percent of the time from before she was 2. She still stays with me one night a fortnight with full support or her father (my ex husband) and her mother with whom I get on well. It is that way because she wants it to be. If there comes a point when she doesn't want it to be then it will change.

Mum is wholly in the wrong here to stop the child seeing someone who was an important part of their life.

I absolutely love this. Good for you! What a beautiful thing for your SD to have bonus trusted adults in her life loving and supporting her, as well as parents who don’t put their own egos first.

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lunar1 · 06/07/2025 12:03

Another child let down by their parents selfish and lazy decisions.

YellowGrey · 06/07/2025 11:37

Twicexshy · 06/07/2025 11:25

Sadly the number has been changed on moving in with the new partner. Lance doesn’t know the address and has no way to really get a message to the child. This is what is so upsetting I think, the abruptness with no explanation. Apparently the child is doing fine but it isn’t known what explanation they have been given for Lance’s disappearance.

For clarity they didn’t have a fight or disagreement.

That is really sad.

funinthesun19 · 06/07/2025 11:33

It amazes me this. Parents want the stepparents to do XYZ for them and the children for years no questions asked and to treat the children as their own. And then when the relationship breaks down they want the stepparent to fuck off.

All this talk about “loving them like their own” might just come back to bite you when it doesn’t suit you anymore. You can’t have it both ways.

Mooselooseinmyhoose · 06/07/2025 11:31

Some of these replies are insane. It's not as simple as he should have "just" adopted the child or got a child arrangements order. He was entitled to believe the mother would put the child above her relationship and be devastated she didn't.

I have a step daughter from my ex husband. I had her with my ex husband 50 percent of the time from before she was 2. She still stays with me one night a fortnight with full support or her father (my ex husband) and her mother with whom I get on well. It is that way because she wants it to be. If there comes a point when she doesn't want it to be then it will change.

Mum is wholly in the wrong here to stop the child seeing someone who was an important part of their life.