I swear I'm not a pearl clutcher but slightly shocked at the amount of little girls at the Sabrina concert

You sound like my granda did when he heard me listening to Bowie

I was at Sabrina on Saturday and I'm absolutely disgusted...

...by so many of the messages on here. Criticising women and young girls for their weight and how they're dressed? And suggesting some women might feel a bit old by being there? What do you hope to achieve by excluding people like that?

The show was indeed toned down and it was one of the best pop gigs I've ever witnessed (I've seen Britney, Madonna, H from Steps, etc). Great staging, very inventive, magical when she got on the crane above the audience. The way Sabrina enjoys being saucy, or sex positive as one might call it now, reminded me of Prince, who I began to love at the age of 13. I remember self-censoring the lyrics so my parents wouldn't hear them (I taped over them.)

Also, I must correct the poster who quoted the lyric from Bed Chem as "Come right on me". I think you'll find it's actually "Come ride on me".

It’s soft porn. Children shouldn’t be there.

I said that was her interpretation of it (going by the video). I do know that, yes.

You do realise the song wasn’t written for Britney Spears, or indeed a woman? It was offered to several artists before Britney, including Backstreet Boys and Five.

So no, it wasn’t written actually about a schoolgirl wanting to be ‘fucked’.

DS now 20 recently said he couldn’t believe we let him sing along to Lily Allen songs. I said to stop him would have made it into a big thing and as it was it went over his (then) little head.

i was at SC yesterday. Possibly the oldest person there. I’ll undoubtedly get flamed for this but it wasn’t the number of young girls that surprised me - it was the number of overweight girls/young women. If that’s representative of the population, no wonder rates of diabetes etc are going through the roof.

Ok then.

Well Max Martin wasn't going to say 'yeah it's about a schoolgirl asking to be fucked' was he, but that was the interpretation Britney chose to give.
The double (or triple I suppose) entendre was right there

Not to mention that Hit Me never did mean Call Me - I remember at the time everyone was 'yeah, right...' because we never used it that way

Max Martin even explained what it meant when lots of people thought it was about violence to women 😂

It absolutely has a double meaning...come on

No it wasn’t. ‘Hit me’ (from ‘Hit me up’) is slang for ‘Call me’.
You hear it in a lot of American films.

I don't particularly love Sabrina Carpenter, I think her recent image on hands and knees in front of a man is awful actually, but honestly pop music has been relying on sex, sexual imagery, sexual innuendo, thinly-veiled references to sex, deeply buried references to sex: forever!

If we want to nit pick. I haven’t used the word feminist, I’ve used the word empowered.
I would imagine the lyric is making the same point that many women do the world over about their other half men children. The one I was married to was still Molly coddled by his mother into his 30’s, who regularly let herself into our home without invitation to iron his clothes, and generally tend to his every need. I very much blamed her for his man child
state of mind! And I don’t see that as anti feminist. I see that as making perfect logical sense. I also don’t think I’m the first woman to have these thoughts, nor is Sabrina carpenter….i did not say her lyrics were a glowing example - just I’d rather that than the messages I grew up with such as
Oh, I wanna hear you tell me
You don't want my love
Put your hand on your heart
And tell me it's all over
I won't believe it 'til you
Put your hand on your heart
And tell me that we're through, ooh, oh
Put your hand on your heart
Hand on your heart
and that’s not to complain about Kylie as i still
absolutely love her. I just think the sexual references go over the kids heads mostly but I think they do pick up on the don’t mess with me vibe….thus at least they’re empowering

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I was there yesterday too with my 9 and 11yo daughters. As predicted, any sexual innuendo be it in the dancing or the lyrics went over their heads. Given the furore and the “are you sure” from family members I was half convinced we were walking into a X rated show. It really wasn’t. They had a great time, as did the other kids around them.

As others have said… Madonna, etc.

Man child for instance is just brilliant. Much healthier messaging.

What like this:
“why so sexy if so dumb
and how survive the earth so long
if I’m not there it won’t get done
I choose to blame your mum”

Blaming the mother for a useless man is hardly a feminist message.

She toned it down for Hyde park, also reported by bbc as such

Well I can remember having my take that video confiscated on Xmas day because the dancing in ‘do what you like’ was too raunchy….and getting it back on Boxing Day after my grandparents left - this has been happening in music and music videos forever. At least Sabrina is a strong woman not bowing down to men - yes there’s some sexual references but I would honestly prefer that to the lyrics we grew up with where women were mostly sat around daydreaming about men and how much they loved them. Or missed them. And waiting around for them.
Man child for instance is just brilliant. Much healthier messaging.
I was there with my 12 year old and we both had a great time. The show was toned down, and I feel far more comfortable her singing lyrics from an EMPOWERED female than I do the stuff like I did - where its the female waiting and hoping for the man. Far more the damaging message I would suggest!
the only thing that surprised me slightly is the parents that bought their kids the cropped merch t shirt with 69 on the back….my daughter without me saying anything said she didn’t want it for that reason because she understood the reference - more damaging where these conversations are not happening and sexual references are taboos I would suggest!

Relax was banned by the BBC at the time though.

I’m guessing you are too young to remember mini-pops.

I remember there was a song by the Goodies in the 70s called Father Xmas don't come near me. And every verse they missed off a word. I thought it was hilarious. I had no clue :)

but maybe I should have?

bit weird @GingerBeverage

care to elaborate?

Maybe you should have? What do you mean Mother Superior?

It’s fashion/dress up for a pop concert in the context of this conversation.

Curious, hands up who wore hot pants ages 8-12?

I definitely found attracting male attention when that age extremely gross and chose to wear clothes that didn’t reveal my body, but maybe I should have?

It was toned down to comply with the licence