… To be considering leaving the UK?

I can only speak as i find, which is that this defence company has plans to use british workers for decades to come, recently attended a meeting where it was pointed out children starting primary now, will be the work force working on contract A - such is the lead time in defence.

At least the push to 3 and then 5% defence spending is going to boost UK manufacturing.

But different industries have different requirements and roles, perhaps your company should invest more in UK schools and colleges, like mine does, if possible.

The country is turning increasingly right wing. That's the problem. Stupid people can't see it's the right wing and the rich (who aren't leaving in droves, total BS) who have ruined this country, not immigrants and people on benefits.
If the morons vote reform in the next election, that's the end of Britain. They're just too stupid, ignorant and hateful to see it.

I work in a commercial sector, and almost all our young, permie hires are non-british. And that's not even looking at how much is now done by offshore 'partner' body shop companies. It was completely different 10 years ago.

Sooo many British people have moved/ are moving to Australia, you'd feel right at home if you decide to move here. Most of my son's classmates have British parents. Amongst the reasons mentioned for the move are: sunny weather- better quality of life -better salaries - better working conditions.
I'm not British, nor Australian, but I studied in UK and most of my friends are British. As a rule they don't go back to the UK after Australia. Just FYI.

We're handing over the chance to train in our industries to young nationals of other countries, which is terrible for the UK

I work with a defence company, they have a huge school leaver and college training program, all for UK students, their plans go forward 10 20 and 30 years.

Ireland is far from a tax light environment, unless you happen to be a US tech multinational. If you have a dividend income it's taxed way higher than the UK and higher rate taxes kick in earlier too.

Public hospitals are slightly better than the UK these days, but many people have private insurance. Student accommodation is a disaster, so your student will very likely be living at home as money can't fix a major shortage. Insurance, cars, food are all more expensive, we have very little public transport and communities are generally small and nosey. Its really not for everyone.

Ultimately if you are moving abroad you need a really strong pull factor, and within Europe , tax rates wont be enough. You need a connection of some sort to help you through the rough times.

uk-ireland-tax-environment-comparison.pdf https://share.google/TuMBTaR6nj0rcnYIo

The tax and borrow cycle isn’t helping.

Sunak had a couple of months of growth, which tbf was good but perhaps take a look at growth over 14 years?

In Q4 2023 we were in recession.

Growth has remained positive in every Q since the GE.

For the pp, The UK has NOT had a net loss of 276k jobs, unemployment rate has remained pretty much stable, it has increased by 0.2% over the last 12 months.
Pay roll numbers are not an unemployment rate.

Tory supporters will never accept anything good that happened under Labour is a positive, which is why you don't mention the FDI figures or the G7 comparison.

The India deal does not undercut UK staff, it is solely for Indian staff on temp contracts here and was available before in any case.

I also do not understand why anyone is complaining about EU dual nationals leaving, is that not what the country voted for with Brexit?

The NHS has had extra investment, but schools certainly haven't. Nor SEN. Despite the vindictive attack on the private sector.

Growth started under Sunak, and has slowed since Labour got in.

Some of the trade deals were under terms which harm the UK. Just watch how the Indian deal NI concessions undercut young UK graduates in the tech industry. We're handing over the chance to train in our industries to young nationals of other countries, which is terrible for the UK.

And the black hole is growing.

Reeves has singlehandedly caused 276,000 job losses to date and that's before we see the effects of the NI increase. There is nothing to celebrate about Labour except the fact they're hastening their own exit.

Labour should not have taxed Education. For higher and additional rate tax payers who are dual nationals, other jurisdictions where you pay your way on healthcare but get excellent free state education and free uni options are simply a better choice now. The balance has tipped.

We pay a shedload of tax in Scandinavia, the difference to what appears to be the case in the UK is that we get something worthwhile back for it.

I fully understand people weighing their options.

Yet reported this morning "The UK is no1 destination for foreign investment.

We also have the highest growth in Europe and sit 3rd behind the US and Canada.

The UK has suffered for many years with Austerity, companies wont invest if their workforce cannot get healthcare, they wont invest if they cannot get educated school leavers or have congested roads to ship their goods.

Reeves imho had no choice but to increase NI contributions, where else was she supposed to fund the 21billion black hole and put extra investment into schools, sure start and the NHS ?

The taxes raised against the very well off are extremely limited.

Labour have also got a limited trade deal with the US and have eased the terrible import restrictions that Brexit has given us, all will help growth.

btw Yes there is/was a Black hole, one argue about the absolute amount but all commentators put it above 12 billion.

I'm too old. We considered it about 8 years ago abd opted to stay. Its a decision I now regret. GB is dreadful.

Good question

You’ll be ok.

You may also have been out of the UK long enough not to realise that telling people not to think and say something because it offends woke sensibilities no longer works here.

I really haven't made it up. See the increasing rate of exodus of the very people who actually could turn the country around through growth - which really is the only solution.

Labour do seem to understand that we need those skills for growth - hence adding their special visas for top STEM people. But all the while, Racheal Reeves is hemorrhaging the exact same profile of people with her tax policies. It's a real blind spot for her - and for some on this thread too. I think it's because of the cognitive dissonance someone on the left feels when facing the reality that different people really do contribute differing amounts to the UK.

I don't hate the UK. I do despise the current government - but I don't think they'll be around long.l also despise the entitled, hate-filled, crabs-in-a-bucket mentality which has become way too prominent in the UK recently and is in evidence on this thread. I'm still weighing up where my family will have the best future.

Still crass

Top 5%

I mean, I visit the UK regularly. But I don't need to do that to know that comparing being a top 1% earner to suffering domestic violence is grossly crass and inappropriate. It is a disgusting comparison.

I think the issue is @L1ghyn1ngBug , in your head millionaires are all mansions and yachts. Where as the reality is that’s it’s largely professionals (Drs, software developers, SME owners) with young families, half way through their mortgage running themselves into the ground to keep all the plates spinning.