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To be annoyed none of my friends have come to my concerts?

363 replies

LaChanteuse · 05/07/2025 09:43

I genuinely don't know if I'm BU. I'm in a choir and we have regular concerts. We're an amateur choir but pretty good and tickets are cheap - all proceeds go to charity. Locations are easy to get to - nothing miles away or with difficult parking etc.

I've been in the choir four years and have done about 10 concerts. DH comes every time (even though I've said he doesn't have to - he is the kindest person in the entire world) and my kids come when they can.

My local friends know when the concerts are on but they haven't come to a single one. If the tables were turned I'd be dying to see them performing - I wouldn't go to every concert but I'd go to one at least. AIBU to be annoyed they haven't made the effort? To be clear these are people I'm close to, not acquaintances.

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TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 05/07/2025 10:56

Concerts cost a lot to put on, venue hire particularly. Most choirs barely cover their costs tbh. Choir members subscriptions barely cover rehearsal venue hire and paying the MD. Of course they need to charge for tickets!

Not to mention the cost of the orchestra........

Cucy · 05/07/2025 10:55

I definitely wouldn’t go to every single one (I don’t think DH needs to either) but I would absolutely go to at least 1 (as long as it didn’t cost too much).

I even go to colleagues performances when they’re doing plays on stage, even though I’m really not a fan of plays.

It’s just nice to be supportive.

Have you said that they’re welcome to attend?

It sounds silly but sometimes I can be oblivious/don’t pick up on social cues and I would sometimes assume that if you wanted me there you would explicitly say it.

SlightlyTooMuch · 05/07/2025 10:55

LakieLady · 05/07/2025 10:38

I was prematurely ancient then. I went to hear the St Matthew Passion at the Albert Hall when I was in my late teens/early 20s. It blew me away, and it wasn't anything to do with the religious side of it - I'm an atheist!

Well, I’ve heard it too, many times, and was in my 20s (and a confirmed atheist) the first time, but that’s a professional choir singing astonishing music beautifully, not an amateur choir doing jazz hands while singing ‘La Isla Bonita’.

I

dontgetmestartedwillu · 05/07/2025 10:55

DaisyChain505 · 05/07/2025 09:55

We can’t all show up for everything that our friends like to do.

Peoples lives are busy enough trying to juggle work, partners, children, aging parents, money worries, hobbies and anything else. People suffer enough over load and mental burnout from trying to juggle their lives that adding in supporting their friends hobbies is just too big of an ask.

Imagine if you have a group of 5 solid friends and each one has a different hobby. Choir singing, marathons, a sport, dancing, etc. Finding the time to attend their events just wouldn’t be possible on top of everything else going on in life.

You do it because you enjoy it, don’t expect everyone else in your life to have to include it in theirs.

This.

TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 05/07/2025 10:54

LaChanteuse · 05/07/2025 10:26

They are still very much my friends, after over 30 years, but we live in different countries now. I watch my friend's youtube show and comment, share etc. as the digital equivalent!

OP I understand.

When we lived in London I sang in a few choirs, but they were famous choirs of a really good standard (BBC Symphony Chorus, Crouch End Festival Chorus) and I was always more excited when I knew that a friend would be in the audience.

I mean despite the fact that we sung most of the Proms, I loved it when a friend came.

But you must take on board the fact that lots of people can't bear choral music.

A couple of years ago, DH and I went to a play in our village which a friend had enthusiastically taken part in.

It. Was. Fucking. Awful.
Just dire. But I had to pretend to my friend that we'd enjoyed it.
🤣

rosecoloured · 05/07/2025 10:54

LaChanteuse · 05/07/2025 10:40

I can see how they might worry about that. I would never expect it. I'll always have DH's lovely face to look at!

Lighthearted and you sound like a nice person OP, but I can’t help feeling for your DH. 😂

Runnersandtoms · 05/07/2025 10:54

DiscoBob · 05/07/2025 10:19

I think it's a bit weird that they expect members of the public to pay to watch an amateur group?

My mum and friend were in a couple but the concerts were always free. Or if it was part of a larger event the choir members were given free tickets to give out. Surely the choir charges an entry fee. So why charge on top of that for tickets. It's off-putting. I'd say that might be one of the reasons they won't go.

Concerts cost a lot to put on, venue hire particularly. Most choirs barely cover their costs tbh. Choir members subscriptions barely cover rehearsal venue hire and paying the MD. Of course they need to charge for tickets!

Having said that, my choir does shorter free performances as part of local events and I feel I have a better chance of friends coming to these, particularly if they're easy to get to /an event they'd go to anyway.

PumpkinSeedPenis · 05/07/2025 10:52

LaChanteuse · 05/07/2025 10:47

Definitely not young! All our kids are older and don't need childcare and our lives are busy but not crazy - one Saturday evening in four years isn't going to be impossible.

But why, you seem to accept that they're probably not going to enjoy it. Is this some sort of session to prove their friendship? Why? They're clearly not interested. If they did go, they'd be bored or worse and see it the way you saw their terrible plays. What's the point? I'd hate having someone watching me miserably

LaChanteuse · 05/07/2025 10:52

SlightlyTooMuch · 05/07/2025 10:50

But that’s your philosophy of friendship.

I can’t see whether you’ve answered something several pps have asked — do you explicitly invite your friends to your concerts, not just post the date, venue etc on social media. Do you actually say ‘Laura, I’d love it if you came to my concert?’

They all know the details. I don't invite directly because I didn't think it was necessary. Given that they haven't chosen to come, I'd assume asking directly would just be awkward?

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Costantlyharried642 · 05/07/2025 10:52

LaChanteuse · 05/07/2025 09:51

To me it's not about being interested in choirs, it's about being interested in a friend.

My DH has no interest in choirs whatsoever, but he comes every time because he knows the effort I put in and wants to support me. I don't expect that level of commitment from friends of course but one concert doesn't seem above and beyond.

I have gone to see friends play sports, act in terrible plays etc just because they're friends.

I think you make a fair point op. I don’t think it would be unreasonable to turn up once? Say at Christmas or something. Especially if you have reciprocated and turned up to their tennis match or charity coffee morning,

The tricky bit is whether you mention it to them. Or not bother?

Or maybe you just try and be a bit more direct on the WhatsApp group and say something like “hi friends, my choir has this concert coming up in September (give them plenty of notice) and I would really love it if one or two of you could be there and maybe we could go out for a drink or a curry afterwards?”

After that, there’s not a lot you can do. I must admit, I’m quite shocked by the number of people on here who find choral music boring. I know the term “choir” covers a wide range of repertoire and competence but to me there’s nothing better than hearing live choral music. Even if the choir is local or very amateur, there’s usually some aspect of the performance that is enjoyable.

TaffetaPhrases · 05/07/2025 10:50

I can barely cope with the end of year concert that my kids do, I find it beyond tedious. But then I have adhd and the attention span of a toddler.

SlightlyTooMuch · 05/07/2025 10:50

LaChanteuse · 05/07/2025 10:32

Thank you, this is a very nice message. I'm finding the replies really helpful, even if they aren't what I expected, though I find it quite sad that people think it's 'egotistical' to want support from friends. It seems quite a basic thing to me, but clearly I've been quite spoiled! (largely from DH).

A friend of mine was running a workshop as part of a work festival thing recently and I went to it - he seemed quite touched I went, which I was surprised at. I was there, I had time, of course I went. He's my friend!

But that’s your philosophy of friendship.

I can’t see whether you’ve answered something several pps have asked — do you explicitly invite your friends to your concerts, not just post the date, venue etc on social media. Do you actually say ‘Laura, I’d love it if you came to my concert?’

cariadlet · 05/07/2025 10:48

Parents have to go along and support their children's sport matches, concerts, plays etc whether they are interested or not.

Friends have no such obligation

You choose to go along and support your friends which is kind of you but that's your choice. Your friends don't have to reciprocate.

MyDeftDuck · 05/07/2025 10:48

Why not gift them a ticket? That might encourage them to attend more …..or not, as the case maybe.

Richiewoo · 05/07/2025 10:47

You're being to sensitive. I cant think of anything more boring than a choir.

LaChanteuse · 05/07/2025 10:47

PumpkinSeedPenis · 05/07/2025 10:45

Are you very young OP because I can't imagine expecting anyone I know to spend hours coming to watch me perform at something that they won't enjoy. By the time most people are adults they have so little free time they're just not going to mess about ruining a rare bit of time off watching something that's boring. And where they're not actually spending quality time with the friend.

Two hours watching the performance plus time getting there and getting ready and organizing and paying childcare. And then my whole day is stopped because I'm doing that in the evening. No way.

When I was a teen early twenty something. Maybe.

Definitely not young! All our kids are older and don't need childcare and our lives are busy but not crazy - one Saturday evening in four years isn't going to be impossible.

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MasterBeth · 05/07/2025 10:47

ElCorazon · 05/07/2025 10:32

I’d rather watch paint dry than attend an amateur choir performance. I hate choirs, soooo boring! Unless you sing rap or something funky. But I bet it’s all Auld Lang Syne, Amazing Grace and similar tedious stuff. It’s for old ladies with a perm and Birkenstocks. 😩

My adult daughter sings in a choir.

We went to watch her in a charity concert last Christmas.

Her choir was... fine. They sang Motown Christmas songs, were quite well-rehearsed, we knew some of the friends she sings with... Whatever. It's for charity

But her choir weren't the only act on the bill. it was when I was sitting watching a man in his 50's singing a solo version of Hushabye Mountain from Chitty Chitty Bang Bang that I realised that what I was sitting through was a junior school Christmas concert, but for adults, where the only joy is in seeing your kid dressed up as an angel.

Friends don't oblige other friends to live through such torture.

PumpkinSeedPenis · 05/07/2025 10:47

LaChanteuse · 05/07/2025 10:01

This is exactly the situation I'm talking about - it's a family and friends thing. Except my friends don't come.

Think of all the time wasted. People standing around watching triathlons so that someone will watch their hobby.

Octavia64 · 05/07/2025 10:46

Many choirs will only do a big full on concert infrequently.

it’s much more common to do shorter sets at (for example) school fetes, church fetes, village or town carnivals or events.

i’m on two choirs and one of them never does a big concert, in our summer season this year we’ve done our standard 20 min set at a local care home (attendance optional before anyone accuses us of torturing the residents), the social afternoon for seniors run by age concern, the wellbeing event (as part of a singalong event to encourage people to take up hobbies available within the village) and the church fetes.

most people are a lot happier to come to eg a church fetes and listen to 20 mins than a full on concert.

my other choir does do a full on concert but only once a year and the other events are similar to above.

all events for both are always free. One choir is funded by community funding (has a lot of disabled and elderly people in it and is funded under social engagement for elderly people) the other is pay to join tenner a month.

ToadRage · 05/07/2025 10:46

I enjoy singing in a choir but have little interest in watching one. I have never been to one of my Mums concerts or my brothers, admittedly they live far away but i would not make the effort to travel down there just to watch the choir sing. At school my parents only came if i had solo, they were very disappointed that they hadn't been there when my music teacher sprung a solo on me 5 mins before the start of the concert. I think you are expecting a bit much from your friends, we'd all like to think our friends would come along and support us but they probably have busy lives and it may just not be their scene.

PumpkinSeedPenis · 05/07/2025 10:45

Are you very young OP because I can't imagine expecting anyone I know to spend hours coming to watch me perform at something that they won't enjoy. By the time most people are adults they have so little free time they're just not going to mess about ruining a rare bit of time off watching something that's boring. And where they're not actually spending quality time with the friend.

Two hours watching the performance plus time getting there and getting ready and organizing and paying childcare. And then my whole day is stopped because I'm doing that in the evening. No way.

When I was a teen early twenty something. Maybe.

ElCorazon · 05/07/2025 10:45

LakieLady · 05/07/2025 10:38

I was prematurely ancient then. I went to hear the St Matthew Passion at the Albert Hall when I was in my late teens/early 20s. It blew me away, and it wasn't anything to do with the religious side of it - I'm an atheist!

But that’s not an amateur choir.

Doggymummar · 05/07/2025 10:45

BedChem · 05/07/2025 09:49

Same..

I could, Snooker, Darts, Wimbledon

LaChanteuse · 05/07/2025 10:43

Overtheatlantic · 05/07/2025 10:42

What if they came to see you perform and thought you and the soprano next to you were flat?

I don't know what you're asking here, sorry.

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Overtheatlantic · 05/07/2025 10:42

What if they came to see you perform and thought you and the soprano next to you were flat?