To think it's actually OK to recline your seat on a long haul flight?

That’s the issue - it’s the aggression that makes the situation much worse.

That’s what I was saying about the unnecessary aggression over it. Nobody wants to travel long haul economy and being kind and polite would go a long way.

If you don’t wish to cause injury to other passengers why did you say this?

“in that case I’d swap with my husband who is a big heavy chap. So I guess then it would be a battle of wills his bulk pushing back against their strong knees pushing forward”

Rather than “in that case I’d swap with my husband and recline to my hearts content elsewhere”. Perhaps it’s more comfortable for you to have your husband injure passengers on your behalf?

Well no

I've already commented upthread and nobody has come back to tell me who these magical airlines are that have fully reclining seats in economy.

The sheer exaggeration and bonkerness on this thread is astounding (and quite funny at the same time).

I suspect that a high proportion of people posting ridiculous comments about "dumping your seat in someone's lap" etc etc have never been near a plane in their lives.

@Lardychops - please save some kittens for me to stamp on too.

The people with long legs can use the same argument though... they paid for a seat with X amount of leg room.

The truth is that long haul flights in Economy are never going to comfortable as there are too many people in too small a space.

These threads always go the same way lol

The suggestions get more and more ludicrous eg those of us that recline actively wish to do harm to disabled people etc, or cause injuries to other passengers..

bonkers- and I can’t be arsed now - so
off to stamp on some kittens and head butt a child instead ..

I would not intentionally hurt anyone either. And I would expect a person who knows that sitting behind someone who may very well use their seat in the manner for which it was intended was likely to cause harm, to take action to prevent this happening - eg, book seat with extra legroom, etc.

I forgive the screen punchers. Screens can become less sensitive (l suspect due to greasy fingers from food) and the only way to get them to behave is to press really hard.

I still would not injury the person behind me intentionally - this attitude boggles my mind. I always aim to be polite and respectful and would be upset if some hurt me on a flight. Thankfully I only travel economy on short haul where seats don’t recline so the issue is moot and the flight is under an hour, we are flying to Vietnam long haul next and will be in business class as I would hate all this passive behaviour for 16 hrs.

If someone is built in such a way that a person in front of them using their seat as it is intended to be used would cause them physical injury, then it's up to them to book a seat with extra legroom and/or take other steps to remedy the situation.

I am a recliner on my long haul flights. I notice that many European destination planes do not recline at all which is fine for short haul. I sleep a great deal on planes. I recline as soon as we are allowed to but pull up for meals and drink services. I am aware of the headrest pullers which sometimes cannot be avoided and of the screen punchers who I assume have never used touch screen before or are using it as a weapon 😂. It happens , it's usually brief . They get bored . I've occasionally had the knee digger but now fly on premium economy so it's more spacious to start with. I don't mind people in front of me reclining.

@stillawip said that their knees press against the seat in front which means the person in front is physically unable to recline.

@Lardychops thinks anyone physically preventing her from reclining should be expected to stand because she is the center of the universe and the boss “end of” 😂 OR she believes that having her husband use his considerable weight to try and force the seat back into that person is perfectly acceptable.

Lardy also believes that people with disabilities shouldn’t fly if their disability means that the person in front cannot recline, even though she has said herself that she cannot physically sit up right because of her bad back, and it has never crossed her mind that perhaps she shouldn’t fly if she has needs which are dependant on others.

The anger is really odd- why would you not be polite in a public space?

In that case then there has never been this issue 😂

That’s exactly what Im saying - crikey I think that people think if they keep putting more extreme examples of who is sat behind eg by reclining you are going to ‘crush a newborn babes in arms to smitherines’ or cause ‘life long injuries’ to a tall bloke
I mean honestly …
the seats are designed to recline
I buy a seat
I use it
i sit or sleep in it as is my want
I recline it if I fancy
etc etc

if anyone is actually facing the type of challenges being described on here by being sat behind me, then they either need to buy two seats so they can spread out more/ not fly/ upgrade seat/ travel by other means/ or stay home …

their issues do not interest me or trump
me using the seat I’ve paid for for the purpose it was designed and intended.

Hahah brilliant lol xxx

No husband swapping mid flight. That is not what aircraft are for. There are other establishments on the ground for such activities. 😀

Ah I see what you mean - sorry !
in that case I’d swap with my husband who is a big heavy chap
So I guess then it would be a battle of wills
his bulk pushing back against their strong knees pushing forward..
and may the best man win..🏆

No one is saying they have seen one

lardy thinks that if the person behind has some issue which means she can’t recline then that person should move or stand

Hands up anyone who has ever seen someone having to stand up for the whole flight because of a reclined chair ? In 52 years of flying I have never seen this .

Absolutely.

Exactly, I remember one man reclined slightly then looked around to where I was and said “have I reclined too far into you”.

I thought it was lovely he showed consideration and said no you’re good but thanks for asking!

Conversely you get the idiots that don’t even want to put their seats back up during meal times - which is part of the rules - and you’re left to tell cabin crew to remind them of that rule!

I’m not tall so I haven’t had this but according to that poster no it can’t go back if they cross their legs. That’s what you seem to be missing.

And no a steward won’t tell them to uncross their legs. It’s not school, people are allowed to sit as they please. You are totally delusional if you think they’ll tell someone to uncross their legs for your sake.

The seat would go back it would just be uncomfortable for the person behind

a steward would need to come to tell them to uncross legs as the seat in front is unable to recline - which while uncomfortable or not ideal for them would be a perfectly reasonable request.
they would just need to uncross their legs end of
it’s not rocket science
if there is a a disability preventing this then I repeat they should not be flying or in an appropriate seat

honestly anyone would think us recliners wants to bounce in the seat behinds laps
and lick their faces

we just want to- and will- lay back outside of meal times to chill and be more comfy
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