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why is called the SCs home when it isn't?

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cardycard · 04/07/2025 12:55

I keep seeing this scenario.

Woman with her own house. She is paying for the bills. Her DP moves in. His kids come EOW. Why do so many people say it is the SC's home?

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sugarapplelane · 04/07/2025 16:16

cardycard · 04/07/2025 16:13

I would still call it a temporary home. He does not own the place, so he can only stay as long as the relationship is good and she wants him there. If they break up or she changes her mind, he has to leave right away. That is not permanent, because he has no control or security.

So what is your point Op?????
Are you having a slow Friday afternoon at work and so thought you’d have a bit of a laugh on Mumsnet? Trying to be as annoying as you possibly can?
You’re acting like my annoying little brother

LillyPJ · 04/07/2025 16:15

You're confusing 'house' with 'home'. She owns the house but it's a home to everyone who lives there. ('Wherever I lay my hat, that's my home...') Or are you suggesting that the SC are homeless, even though they live there? That would be ridiculous.

Namechangean · 04/07/2025 16:15

cardycard · 04/07/2025 16:13

I would still call it a temporary home. He does not own the place, so he can only stay as long as the relationship is good and she wants him there. If they break up or she changes her mind, he has to leave right away. That is not permanent, because he has no control or security.

You can call it what you like. It obviously suits you to pretend it’s a temporary home. But you’re wrong and it’s a definition you’ve completely made up. But you already know that

cardycard · 04/07/2025 16:13

Namechangean · 04/07/2025 16:11

No it’s not. He’s not staying there temporarily until he finds somewhere new. He’s living there until something happens - like breaking up. So it’s his permanent home, not a temporary one. Nothing lasts for ever but unless you’ve not told us he’s agreed to move out in a few weeks, then it’s his permanent home - as permanent as is possible when you’re living with someone else who you may one day break up with. But there’s a chance he could be there for 2 years or 10 years or 40 years so it’s not temporary

I would still call it a temporary home. He does not own the place, so he can only stay as long as the relationship is good and she wants him there. If they break up or she changes her mind, he has to leave right away. That is not permanent, because he has no control or security.

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verityveritas · 04/07/2025 16:12

godmum56 · 04/07/2025 15:49

really? I have never had to do that.

Op was being flippant.

op it’s his home whilst he is living there irrespective of contributing to the household budgets, by extension its also his children’s home.
he can be asked to leave at any point. As soon as he leaves he and his offspring no longer have a home at that particular address. If you ask him to leave you are not making him and his kids homeless, so you don’t need to feel guilty about .

Do you consider him as a guest rather than a partner, and therefore his kids are guests?

Alltheyellowbirds · 04/07/2025 16:11

Maybe a real life example will help.

My parents divorced when we were young.

My mum found a new partner and moved into his house. She didn’t own it, it was his, but because she lived there it was her home and also ours. As well as home to his own kids.

My dad also found a new partner. She moved into his house. She didn’t own it, but because she lived there it was her home, and her kids home, and it was also our home because we stayed with our Dad at weekends.

My Dad and his partner eventually ended up separating, and she and her kids moved out. His home stopped being their home at that point. That didn’t mean it WASNT their home during the years that they lived there.

Namechangean · 04/07/2025 16:11

cardycard · 04/07/2025 16:01

Set up is rather different if both parents own the property. In a situation where the woman owns the property and he moves in and sees his children there at times, it is more a temporary home.

No it’s not. He’s not staying there temporarily until he finds somewhere new. He’s living there until something happens - like breaking up. So it’s his permanent home, not a temporary one. Nothing lasts for ever but unless you’ve not told us he’s agreed to move out in a few weeks, then it’s his permanent home - as permanent as is possible when you’re living with someone else who you may one day break up with. But there’s a chance he could be there for 2 years or 10 years or 40 years so it’s not temporary

JFDIYOLO · 04/07/2025 16:07

Home is where you live. If the parents have agreed say 80/20, then the fact they are with the their father at his home (as in where he lives even if he doesn't pay to be there) even though it's for a smaller amount of time then that is their home too.

DiscoBob · 04/07/2025 16:06

It doesn't concern anyone really except the person who's home it is. If they consented for their partner to move in and have the kid EOW at the house then presumably it is the kids home for the period they're sleeping there?

If the woman who owns the house doesn't want that then they should say so and not allow it.

But otherwise why shouldn't it be the kids home, people from divorced families often have two homes?

MaggiesShadow · 04/07/2025 16:05

Didshejustsaythatoutloud · 04/07/2025 16:02

I don't really understand the purpose of your post op.
What is your point?
Do you have a personal dilemma?

It's pretty clear he/she is on a wind up!

Didshejustsaythatoutloud · 04/07/2025 16:02

I don't really understand the purpose of your post op.
What is your point?
Do you have a personal dilemma?

cardycard · 04/07/2025 16:01

Namechangean · 04/07/2025 15:50

It’s still their home for as long as their dad lives there. Same with any other set up

Set up is rather different if both parents own the property. In a situation where the woman owns the property and he moves in and sees his children there at times, it is more a temporary home.

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WideawakeinSanDiego · 04/07/2025 16:00

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PutThe · 04/07/2025 15:59

HelloGreen · 04/07/2025 13:09

Yes. But she’s extending herself, her home, to this man. And therefore to his children.

Whether she should put up with him at all is an entirely other question,

Yes, the problem here would appear to be the lack of bill paying. Unless he's earning his keep in other ways such as covering the woman's caring responsibilities perhaps, but they're usually not.

wordler · 04/07/2025 15:55

Their home is with their Dad so if he’s asked to leave their home becomes wherever he goes. They only become homeless if Dad is also homeless.

OP are you in a scenario where someone ids accusing you of making their kids homeless?

Alltheyellowbirds · 04/07/2025 15:53

Why aren’t you answering anyone’s questions? People are trying to help you but if you don’t actually explain what your situation is or the problem you’re having it’s very hard.

At the moment it’s all just coming across as bizarre.

Namechangean · 04/07/2025 15:50

cardycard · 04/07/2025 15:48

Yes they are temporary but there is much more stability if your name is on the rental agreement or the house as opposed to I live there so it is mine and my children's home.

It’s still their home for as long as their dad lives there. Same with any other set up

CorneliaCupp · 04/07/2025 15:50

What has prompted this thread OP? Why are you so keen to define things in this way?

godmum56 · 04/07/2025 15:49

cardycard · 04/07/2025 15:06

A form has to be filled out and approved before any thread gets posted.

really? I have never had to do that.

cardycard · 04/07/2025 15:48

Icanttakethisanymore · 04/07/2025 15:34

All homes are temporary. When you rent, it's often very temporary, when you move in with a partner it might be temporary, everyone acknowledges that but it is no less a home because you will likely leave and live somewhere else at some point. That is true for the bloke in your scenario and his kids (and the woman to the extent that she won't live where she lives now, forever).

Yes they are temporary but there is much more stability if your name is on the rental agreement or the house as opposed to I live there so it is mine and my children's home.

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Namechangean · 04/07/2025 15:47

I have two guesses on what OPs problem is

  • the most obvious one - her bf has moved in, she doesn’t like how his kids behave and is outraged her bf has suggested it’s their home too.
  • A mum who is livid that her children are referring to their dad’s new house as home because he’s moved in with another woman and she’s jealous
cardycard · 04/07/2025 15:47

steff13 · 04/07/2025 15:34

You had to fill out a form before you posted this thread? I posted a thread a few days ago and I didn't have to fill out a form I just clicked a button.

😂

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Kikingk · 04/07/2025 15:46

If two people mutually decide to live together then regardless whose name is on the deeds, it is home to both of them. Otherwise the power imbalance will break the relationship.

You can't feel indebted to someone for 'doing you a favour' when you both agreed to it.

And yes, if he has children, then it is their home too.

lifemovesonward · 04/07/2025 15:43

My partner moved into my home, he contributes. He has a son. I have 2 kids with me majority of the time and a 4-bed house, so we turned the spare room into his son's room. It absolutely is his son's home too. What's the issue?

Namechangean · 04/07/2025 15:41

cardycard · 04/07/2025 14:17

It is words that do not really mean anything - it is a temporary home then.

If you want to get pedantic then any home is a temporary home, if you’re renting it’s only your home until your landlord ends the tenancy. If you have a mortgage it’s only your home until you sell it. If a couple own a home it might only be your home until you break up.

No one views it like that, they just view where they are living as home. So a man living with his gf is living in his own home. And if that’s his home, it’s his kids home. End of.

If you allow someone to move in with you, you’re agreeing for them to make that their home - and you shouldn’t agree to it if you are holding it over their head threatening that it’s temporary. And no one should be making kids feel like their dad’s home isn’t theirs. They should be made to feel welcome and at home when they are with their dad