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why is called the SCs home when it isn't?

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cardycard · 04/07/2025 12:55

I keep seeing this scenario.

Woman with her own house. She is paying for the bills. Her DP moves in. His kids come EOW. Why do so many people say it is the SC's home?

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shinybrightleaves · 04/07/2025 18:57

cardycard · 04/07/2025 13:28

So because he moves in with someone into a house that he did not pay for, then suddenly it becomes his childrens home too?

Yes.

If the woman is not happy with that, she should not live with the Father.

Lurkingandlearning · 04/07/2025 18:55

cardycard · 04/07/2025 14:19

It is different if you are the homeowner and your name is on the deeds then you do own the home. If you rent or live with someone with your kids sometimes, it is not your home or it is a temporary home.

Edited

Well only if you own the house outright. If you have a mortgage and lose your job, you’d quickly find your accommodation had been as temporary as a rental.

Just don’t have a relationship with a man who has children.

Longyitudeed · 04/07/2025 18:55

It is said in the same way people who are going out together refer to a partners children as " step children".

They aren't step children until your married, and even then you have zero obligation to them unles you get up guardianship etc..

Women who end up allowing a partner to move in and use their house as a part time unpaid home for their children, are invariably soft and mugs.

Men target such women.
Men see it as a super cheap alternative to actually paying for a home for their children.
Go find a woman with a house and move in asap.

cardycard · 04/07/2025 18:54

Lurkingandlearning · 04/07/2025 18:41

No. That house will no longer be their home. Where he moves to will then be their home.

So it was just a temporary home?

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cardycard · 04/07/2025 18:53

Lurkingandlearning · 04/07/2025 18:51

Children don’t say that. They don’t really give a shit about Sarah and her house. Wherever their father lives is their home until he moves then that house becomes their home. Ideally their father doesn’t involve himself with and move in with a sequence of women who ask him to move out. That would mean he and therefore his children were in temporary accommodation. But why would a woman who moves a man who has children into her house object to it being referred to as their home?

What do children say then?

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cardycard · 04/07/2025 18:53

PopeJoan2 · 04/07/2025 18:38

People move home all the time. Wherever you live is your home.

Moving home all the time is different to living somewhere where you on not part of rental agreement or a homeowner and could be asked to leave any time.

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Lurkingandlearning · 04/07/2025 18:51

cardycard · 04/07/2025 14:16

That would probably be easier than I am going to my home to see dad, then the relationship ends and oh no I have lost my home.

Children don’t say that. They don’t really give a shit about Sarah and her house. Wherever their father lives is their home until he moves then that house becomes their home. Ideally their father doesn’t involve himself with and move in with a sequence of women who ask him to move out. That would mean he and therefore his children were in temporary accommodation. But why would a woman who moves a man who has children into her house object to it being referred to as their home?

Loadsapandas · 04/07/2025 18:50

WideawakeinSanDiego · 04/07/2025 18:14

Yes and it is the birth or adoptive parents responsibility to provide that home. Not the latest new partner of one of the birth parents.

Edited

He has provided them with a home.

The OPs home.

Where he lives.

It’s a common cock lodger move tbh.

PopeJoan2 · 04/07/2025 18:48

I wonder if this thread is created by a sc who is trying to ascertain if they have dibs on SM’s house - no you don’t unless she’s written you into her will. Apart from that you are entitled to call it your home. For practical reasons if nothing else.

op if you are writing about your own situation I wonder if you have shared your thoughts and attitude with your partner. What does he say about it?

godmum56 · 04/07/2025 18:45

verityveritas · 04/07/2025 16:12

Op was being flippant.

op it’s his home whilst he is living there irrespective of contributing to the household budgets, by extension its also his children’s home.
he can be asked to leave at any point. As soon as he leaves he and his offspring no longer have a home at that particular address. If you ask him to leave you are not making him and his kids homeless, so you don’t need to feel guilty about .

Do you consider him as a guest rather than a partner, and therefore his kids are guests?

oh ok..... ha.......ha......ha.....ha

Lurkingandlearning · 04/07/2025 18:41

cardycard · 04/07/2025 13:31

So if she asks him to leave, she is depriving the children of their home?

No. That house will no longer be their home. Where he moves to will then be their home.

PopeJoan2 · 04/07/2025 18:38

cardycard · 04/07/2025 14:07

How does calling it a home bring security to the poor kids? If the woman ends the relationship which she has every right to, the poor kids are going to think we have lost our home. It was never theirs or their fathers to begin with

People move home all the time. Wherever you live is your home.

CheerUpPeterReid · 04/07/2025 18:36

cardycard · 04/07/2025 18:29

Exactly.

No, not exactly. If a new partner invites the mother/father to move in with them and cohabit, the couple are essentially creating a home for themselves. So, by extension, the mother/father are providing a home - their home - for the child, irrespective of the ownership/tenancy/cohabiting situation.

PopeJoan2 · 04/07/2025 18:36

cardycard · 04/07/2025 18:30

Are you opening up your home to young people?

If they were my partner’s children I would.

Greencustardmonster · 04/07/2025 18:36

cardycard · 04/07/2025 18:29

Exactly.

No one is saying you should provide a home for your boyfriend’s children or have any responsibility to do so. Frankly given how you feel about it I think you should never ever live with a man with children.

But if you choose to move him into your house then that’s you choosing to provide his kids with a home for however long he’s living with you. And if you choose to do that then I think you bear some responsibility to think it’s going to be more than a “temporary home” before you involve kids in it - maybe not legally speaking, but morally as a decent person.

OneFineDay22 · 04/07/2025 18:34

When people live somewhere and they are not actively planning on leaving, then that is their home. If you rent, you still say “I’m going home,” at the end of the day, and you wouldn’t expect some weirdo you work with to insist on saying, “Well, technically it’s your landlord’s home, he could kick you out anytime making that effectively only your temporary home.” Because that would be both weird, and incorrect - it’s your landlord’s house; it’s your home. Your landlord lives in his own home (which he may or may not own). I don’t know why you’re insisting on not understanding the distinction between property ownership and “living in your home”. It’s not something the others posters seem to be struggling with…

Any married couple who jointly own a house would call it their home even though their relationship could breakdown and force them both to have to move out and sell it in order to recoup their investment. That doesn’t mean they should see it as a temporary home or a temporary arrangement. And it certainly wouldn’t mean it isn’t their kids home while they all live there.

Willyoujustbequiet · 04/07/2025 18:34

@Notreallyme27

Stepparenting done the right way

They were lucky to have you.

ClaudiaWankleman · 04/07/2025 18:30

WideawakeinSanDiego · 04/07/2025 18:14

Yes and it is the birth or adoptive parents responsibility to provide that home. Not the latest new partner of one of the birth parents.

Edited

But the responsibility and apportionment of it is completely and utterly irrelevant to the question the OP asked? Do you read well?

cardycard · 04/07/2025 18:30

PopeJoan2 · 04/07/2025 18:08

Surely no one would ever deny young people the right to a home? I come across so much mean mindedness on MN. It is shocking

Edited

Are you opening up your home to young people?

OP posts:
cardycard · 04/07/2025 18:29

WideawakeinSanDiego · 04/07/2025 18:14

Yes and it is the birth or adoptive parents responsibility to provide that home. Not the latest new partner of one of the birth parents.

Edited

Exactly.

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DearDenimEagle · 04/07/2025 18:28

someones name is on the deeds. It’s that person’s house. And home if they live in it.
Anyone else who moves in with their stuff and stays can call it home, just as a tenant doesn’t own the house they pay rent on but still calls it home while they live there.
An arrangement where those who do not own the home have to leave and find a new home is usually in place, be it the end of a tenancy or the breakdown of a relationship. Children cannot own houses so their home is with their parent, who should be responsible about their expectations before taking them somewhere they are not welcome and from where they can expect to be kicked out.

If a person does not want the children around, don’t get involved with a parent, whose first duty is to their children . It is unreasonable to expect to keep a parent from their children.

I own a house but my home is currently my son’s house, while he works away. At some stage, I will move back to my own house. Then that will be home again and my son’s will be where I visit but not my home.

WideawakeinSanDiego · 04/07/2025 18:14

PopeJoan2 · 04/07/2025 18:08

Surely no one would ever deny young people the right to a home? I come across so much mean mindedness on MN. It is shocking

Edited

Yes and it is the birth or adoptive parents responsibility to provide that home. Not the latest new partner of one of the birth parents.

PopeJoan2 · 04/07/2025 18:08

Surely no one would ever deny young people the right to a home? I come across so much mean mindedness on MN. It is shocking

Elfbeth · 04/07/2025 17:58

Children deserve to feel safe and secure so yes it is their home - they don’t need to be concerned with mortgages and bills or if it’s temporary or permanent. It’s their home.

Now the situation between their father and the woman is another matter and should be dealt with by them as adults.

Two separate issues here op and you’re going down a rabbit hole that is nonsensical

Miyagi99 · 04/07/2025 17:56

cardycard · 04/07/2025 17:24

It is not about staying full time. Fine for it to be the DF or DM's home but if the parents move into someone else's home, then does it automatically
become the children's home?

Because their parent is living there. It’s the father/mother’s home too if they move into a house with someone. If I move in with my partner it’s my home. I would help with the bills but that’s by the by, it’s up to the homeowner/person on the rental agreement to decide how the person they are sharing their home with contribute to the bills, before they move into.