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why is called the SCs home when it isn't?

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cardycard · 04/07/2025 12:55

I keep seeing this scenario.

Woman with her own house. She is paying for the bills. Her DP moves in. His kids come EOW. Why do so many people say it is the SC's home?

OP posts:
DearDenimEagle · 05/07/2025 13:52

I lived with my in laws for 3 months every winter and occasional weekends during the year..I called it home while I was there…in conversation with friends, I’d say I was going home to milk cows or whatever. My own house /other home was 200 miles away.

DearDenimEagle · 05/07/2025 13:50

cardycard · 05/07/2025 13:33

So it is a temporary home then?

Homes are often temporary. Mine is. Tenants’ homes can be temporary. Not everyone has a lifetime lease, but in any case it’s not their house. Just their home. People in shelters are in temporary homes. It’s a word that describes where you sleep and keep possessions, eat and relax. It does not denote legal possession. My eldest calls his van home, when he’s working from his motorhome.

DearDenimEagle · 05/07/2025 13:43

She’s called them SC . Isn’t that stepchildren? And they’re only step children if she’s the stepmother , which she becomes on marriage. Surely you wouldn’t get to that stage, or even living together, where they aren’t yet SC but the partner’s children, without having the conversation about the children and visitation? And children will call wherever they sleep at the time, home.
OP sounds distinctly unpleasant to me..not because she doesn’t want children, but because it seems there are children who have been allowed to think they are welcomed when they aren’t. Like the children have overstepped some unseen boundary. That’s the fault of adults. Children have little power over their lives and responsible parents put them first in providing security to have somewhere to call home

cardycard · 05/07/2025 13:33

DurinsBane · 05/07/2025 13:24

Yes that is correct

So it is a temporary home then?

OP posts:
DurinsBane · 05/07/2025 13:28

cardycard · 04/07/2025 22:22

The family home likely belonged to both of them even it was a temporary home unlike the man who moves into a woman's home and sees his children there. If they were to split, the home would not have to be sold. Huge difference.

What has prompted this OP?

DurinsBane · 05/07/2025 13:24

cardycard · 04/07/2025 14:05

Only in words in that case which does not mean much. She can ask him to leave whenever she wants. Then he will have to find another 'home' for himself and his children

Yes that is correct

ZoggyStirdust · 05/07/2025 11:08

CaptainMyCaptain · 05/07/2025 08:41

There's a world of difference between a cocklodger who moves in and contributes to nothing and a man who, after a reasoned discussion, moves into his partner's house. Maybe it's bigger, maybe she has children living there all the time and doesn't want to disrupt them, maybe she inherited it there could be many reasons. She might not want to co-own that property as it is her childrens' inheritance so the man might have money invested elsewhere or not. There are many scenarios but I think the OP is only thinking of the first one, if she could be more specific it might help but as she is ignoring every other poster it is hardly worth continuing with the thread.

Don’t you go being all sensible on a thread that is clearly not looking for sensible!

TaborlinTheGreat · 05/07/2025 10:44

cardycard · 04/07/2025 13:30

Just living somewhere makes it the children's home even though the child's father contributed nothing?

Of course. Home means somewhere you live. Children don't pay for their accommodation - does that mean they don't have a home? If someone gifted me a house and I lived in it, it would be my home.

Your (perfectly justified) annoyance at a man not contributing financially does not change the definition of the word 'home'.

Sasssquatch · 05/07/2025 10:42

Why don’t you consider the word home to mean a place where you have the right or an agreement to reside rather than conflating it with ownership?

and then why don’t you consider that the minimum any child deserves is security and stability as a close second. And that any point scoring or personal, peculiar interpretations into the specific meaning of a word isn’t really important when children are involved and that you, as an adult have a responsibility to every child in your world to convey a sense of comfort and belonging. Becuse you’re an adult. And they’re kids.

TheignT · 05/07/2025 10:33

Profpudding · 05/07/2025 03:27

Its not their home, they have a home with their mother. Nobody has more than one home

Tell the King, he's got a few.

TheignT · 05/07/2025 10:29

Petitchat · 05/07/2025 08:28

No, it can't be. Because he can lose it at anytime in a split second.

But that goes for lots of the places people call home, your parents can ask/tell an adult child to leave, a landlord can tell a lodger to leave.

By the definitions some people are giving I wonder what the percentage of homeless people there are in the UK? Well over 50% I should think.

TheignT · 05/07/2025 10:25

cardycard · 04/07/2025 20:38

Presumably the landlord or landlady would ask the parents to leave as well as the children 🙄

Just like the house owner could ask their partner to leave with his/her children. What's the difference?

CaptainMyCaptain · 05/07/2025 08:41

There's a world of difference between a cocklodger who moves in and contributes to nothing and a man who, after a reasoned discussion, moves into his partner's house. Maybe it's bigger, maybe she has children living there all the time and doesn't want to disrupt them, maybe she inherited it there could be many reasons. She might not want to co-own that property as it is her childrens' inheritance so the man might have money invested elsewhere or not. There are many scenarios but I think the OP is only thinking of the first one, if she could be more specific it might help but as she is ignoring every other poster it is hardly worth continuing with the thread.

Petitchat · 05/07/2025 08:28

wordler · 05/07/2025 04:51

Please excuse my language but after all these many posts

is the house the Dad’s fucking home or not?

No, it can't be. Because he can lose it at anytime in a split second.

JFDIYOLO · 05/07/2025 08:10

I lived with my parents in the house they owned - my home then.

I lived in the YWCA for 18 months.

That was my home until I moved to the city I still live in. I lodged with a colleague for as long as it took to buy a flat - that was my home for that time.

Then my own flat became my home.

CaptainMyCaptain · 05/07/2025 08:03

Profpudding · 05/07/2025 03:27

Its not their home, they have a home with their mother. Nobody has more than one home

Lots of people have more than one home. They're called second home owners.

wordler · 05/07/2025 04:51

Please excuse my language but after all these many posts

is the house the Dad’s fucking home or not?

Whynotjustengageyourbrain · 05/07/2025 04:32

Profpudding · 05/07/2025 04:31

But accurate

I feel if someone cares about this, they really have bigger issues to deal with!

Profpudding · 05/07/2025 04:31

Whynotjustengageyourbrain · 05/07/2025 04:06

Because calling it "House that your Dads partner owns that you occasionally sleep in" sounds a bit long winded??! 😑

But accurate

Whynotjustengageyourbrain · 05/07/2025 04:06

Because calling it "House that your Dads partner owns that you occasionally sleep in" sounds a bit long winded??! 😑

Profpudding · 05/07/2025 03:27

Its not their home, they have a home with their mother. Nobody has more than one home

mathanxiety · 05/07/2025 03:07

MascaraGirl · 04/07/2025 23:44

the place the children live EOW is their home,

But only on Planet MN. To the rest of the world, if you visit somewhere EOW, then the place you live the rest of the time (ie the majority of the time) is home

I'm inclined to agree.
In my own experience, my DCs all called the house we lived in after divorce - previously the marital home - "home", and it was noticeable that exH started calling it "the house" in conversation with them.

Even after we sold it and moved to am apartment, the DCs still called the apartment "home" despite exH's efforts to make "the apartment" a thing. They called his apartment where they saw him EOW "dad's apartment".

You can fool.all of the people.some of the time and you can fool some of the people all of the time, but you can't fool.all of the people all of the time.

mathanxiety · 05/07/2025 03:00

TheNightingalesStarling · 04/07/2025 13:01

Because morally the father needs to provide a home for his children. So his home is the children's home.

The father has glommed onto a woman who needs to give her head a wobble. There's nothing in that situation that says 'morality' to me.

If the father wants to consider himself a responsible father then he needs to be paying his share of the household bills, not aponging off another home owner, and he should be paying for food and clothing and entertainment for his children when they are with him too.

VimesandhisCardboardBoots · 05/07/2025 00:34

cardycard · 04/07/2025 22:22

The family home likely belonged to both of them even it was a temporary home unlike the man who moves into a woman's home and sees his children there. If they were to split, the home would not have to be sold. Huge difference.

What's the difference to the kids?

It's still "This place where I lived is no longer somewhere I live". Who owns it makes no difference to them.

MascaraGirl · 04/07/2025 23:44

the place the children live EOW is their home,

But only on Planet MN. To the rest of the world, if you visit somewhere EOW, then the place you live the rest of the time (ie the majority of the time) is home