why is called the SCs home when it isn't?

And if that relationship isn’t deemed permanent (as permanent as relationships ever are) then why on earth are kids involved and staying over in the first place?

Who on earth moves their boyfriend and his kids in thinking it’s just temporary?

My parents have rented for 50+ years it is absolutely their home, they will never move unless it is into care or the inevitable.

I don’t know the answer to this but i think it’s a bad situation. All parents (fathers or mothers) should provide their children with a stable home and not rely on the (non-parent) partner.

If someone is legally living in a house it is their home.

The person whose name is on the property deeds is the owner of the home. Who is that?

It’s your home, you just don’t have a legal right to it from a financial perspective. Bit weird to say that people ok rented accommodation don’t have homes.

No, sorry. If you’re going to move in with your partner and you have kids, then the onus is on you to pay for them, not expect your partner to foot the bill just because they own the house or pay the rent. That’s fecklessness.

What?? 🤨 This is just bizarre now. So all people, who rent, are not allowed to say they have a home? They must say "I'm going to my temporary home"…

I think you're mixing up a technical term - the father's home being where he lives, and extending to them.

And the more usual definition of a comforting, secure place where you have your own space and things and you feel relaxed.

The father exists and stays in a house that doesn't belong to him? No matter in the eyes of the law.

She can absolutely ask him to leave at any point and it is up to him to find a new place to live so the children can visit.

You have to be pretty mean spirited to argue against them calling their fathers home theirs too. They’re just children at the end of the day. Yes, they may not have a legal right to it, but it should still feel like their home and they should be made to feel welcome and comfortable there.

You’re focused on the wrong aspect. It’s not “their home” in the sense it’s “theirs” and that they own it, have rights to stay outside of the fact it’s where their Dad lives or it is sone kind of permanent unbreakable arrangement. It’s not about ownership of the property.

It is “their home” in the sense it’s a home - they aren’t guests, they’re a part of the family. They should be able to have belongings there and their own space and also some of the age appropriate responsibilities of being a family member and not a guest - eg washing up or making a meal. If their father moves out then they move out too and it’s his responsibility to provide another place for them to live.

Think of it this way - if a house was owned by a man and he moved his single parent girlfriend and her toddler in, would you really say that wasn’t the toddler’s home? The toddler doesn’t own it, may well have no legal right to be there apart from the relationship between his mother and the homeowner, but if his cot and toys and clothes are there then I’d say that’s his home.

And if the father isn’t paying the bills ? How is it possibly his home or that of his children ? I don’t hold with women moving their boyfriends in too soon, but neither do I hold with so many men cocklodging. If you have kids you should be prepared to pay your way for them regardless of whether you’re a man or a woman.

Or im just going round to dad's. People move house all the time, I am still wondering what prompted you to say step children should feel so unwelcome in this hypothetical."home "

Is someone who is living with you in your house saying you cannot make him leave because it is his children's home?
Are you being bullied to let him stay?

Yes why are you so irritated by this, what prompted you to start your thread.

There is a difference between saying somewhere is someone's house and saying it is their home.
I might rent a house, it wouldn't be my house but it would be my home.

OP, you seem to be having trouble with the idea of people not owning their home. This is, in fact, very widespread. Many people of all ages and relationship statuses live in places they call home but do not own. Very few, admittedly, live in these places without paying rent and bills, but it is not at all clear to me why the presence of step children should affect that.

Why are you so upset about this?

The dad lives there because presumably the woman wanted him to move in. It's his home, even if he doesn't own the property. The children come with dating a father and live there part-time, so therefore it is also their home.

Home and owning a property are two different things.

Are you this rude about renters ? Their homes maybe temporary but they are still their homes.
To a child, their home(s) is(are) where their parents to live. They don’t pay bills so legal ownership isn’t a consideration for them.

Surely it is their home every other weekend.
If the woman can't accept that then it would be better for her not to get involved with a man who has children.
The children should always come.first.its not their fault that their parents have split up and now have different partners.