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landladywithmissingtenant · 2025-07-04T10:58:56+00:00

I live in a flat in a large block (60 flats in all) I own the one I live in and one other, which I rent out. I used to see my tenant now and again, probably twice a month or so but I have realised that I haven't seen her in about a year or more. My daughter lives nearby and also used to bump into her quite a lot at the local shop and she says she hasn't seen her in ages either. She's a retired single lady and it's a single occupancy studio flat. The other day I was locked out of the main building and I rang her buzzer to ask if she wouldn't mind letting me back in and a man answered and buzzed me in before I'd finished my sentence. I tried the buzzer again the next day and no-one answered. Am I being unreasonable to think she might have left the flat and be subletting it? or something more sinister? And WIBU to go and knock on her door and see if she's there? I'm worried I might come across as harassing her. And what do I say if she answers?

Utterlyconfusednow · 07/07/2025 10:21

ThisIsMyYearToFindMyself · 07/07/2025 10:17

This is actually repeated in so many threads. It’s good to have a laugh about it because if I let my inner rage out I’d be 😡🤬😡🤬😡🤬😡🤬 at every single person. Laughing is slightly better for you blood pressure wise I think.

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Funny cat videos on YouTube ThisIsMyYear, always calm me down. CaD Cats do some hilarious videos.

ThisIsMyYearToFindMyself · 07/07/2025 10:17

Utterlyconfusednow · 07/07/2025 09:30

🤣 This thread is craaaaazy!

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This is actually repeated in so many threads. It’s good to have a laugh about it because if I let my inner rage out I’d be 😡🤬😡🤬😡🤬😡🤬 at every single person. Laughing is slightly better for you blood pressure wise I think.

whatcanthematterbe81 · 07/07/2025 10:02

The crazy people on this thread have given me a right giggle this morning. God some people need to get out more

RawBloomers · 07/07/2025 09:35

Hope it goes well this morning, OP.

Utterlyconfusednow · 07/07/2025 09:30

ByQuaintAzureWasp · 07/07/2025 09:29

There is no gas ... read the thread!

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🤣 This thread is craaaaazy!

ByQuaintAzureWasp · 07/07/2025 09:29

Delphigirl · 04/07/2025 17:29

If you haven’t checked the property in a year who has been doing the gas safety checks? Because if you want to terminate her tenancy you can’t serve a s21 unless they are up to date

There is no gas ... read the thread!

Utterlyconfusednow · 07/07/2025 09:18

VerityUnreasonble · 07/07/2025 08:56

I hope when you pop in this morning you cheerily call out to whoever is in there "landlady - hope you got my note! Just popping in to do the annual gas checks!!"

😁

Sixtygoingonthirty · 07/07/2025 09:07

SharonEllis · 07/07/2025 06:54

Just checking in to see if you are ok and to see if anyone has suggested that you should have the right certificates!

🤣🤣🤣.

VerityUnreasonble · 07/07/2025 08:56

I hope when you pop in this morning you cheerily call out to whoever is in there "landlady - hope you got my note! Just popping in to do the annual gas checks!!"

sonoonetoldyoulifewasgonnabethisway · 07/07/2025 08:19

May be totally innocent and she may just have a new man and not want to leave the flat - The no contact seems a bit off though, I would make sure you take someone with you when you do go to enter the flat just in case

Lotsalotsagiggles · 07/07/2025 08:01

Going in today?

chachahide · 07/07/2025 08:00

SharonEllis · 07/07/2025 06:54

Just checking in to see if you are ok and to see if anyone has suggested that you should have the right certificates!

😂

daleylama · 07/07/2025 07:52

landladywithmissingtenant · 06/07/2025 17:53

If something criminal has taken place you've given them so much time to hide the evidence 🙈
maybe, but there's a process to these things that needs to be followed

landlords have a wonderful clause in their tenancy agreements that say admittance without notice for emergencies is permitted. I'd have been in there the first day you didn't get a response.
I have little - no evidence there's an Emergency. This is a person that's both my customer and my friend. I can't just go bursting into her home.

None of my landlords that let themselves in whenever they fancied ever got repercussions 🤷🏻‍♀️ the law just doesn't care unless in rare cases when it's tantamount to harassment.
That doesn't make it right. "I won't get caught/nothing will happen to me" doesn't make things morally legally right.

Not that I want to give unethical landlords any ideas...
Why say that then? you know they're unethical and you don't want to give them ideas and yet for tell me I should have gone straight in there before they had time to "hide the evidence"

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There's some proper Miss Marples on this thread.

SharonEllis · 07/07/2025 06:54

Just checking in to see if you are ok and to see if anyone has suggested that you should have the right certificates!

ScreamingDelight · 07/07/2025 01:05

ComtesseDeSpair · 06/07/2025 21:21

I’m sure it’s been suggested already, but after the first dozen suggestions about gas safety checks and carbon monoxide alarms I stopped reading the thread. Requesting a police welfare check is appropriate in this situation. This is somebody who’s a friend and one who lives in the same building as you: you haven’t seen them around in weeks, their phone isn’t connecting for calls, they haven’t responded to you knocking on the door or putting a note through, and they aren’t replying to messages. It’s less risky, both for your safety if somebody else is living there and in terms of the legalities of being a landlord who has decided to just let themselves in - particularly since, if nobody is home when you go in, you’re going to be no closer to finding out what the situation is and can’t just keep on letting yourself in on the guise of an “emergency” or “inspection.”

Requesting a police welfare check sounds a good idea!

POTC · 06/07/2025 22:05

Lockdownsceptic · 06/07/2025 21:23

I hope you have an up to date electricity certificate. Not needed as regularly as gas but still essential.

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Yes, OP has already said, multiple times, that they do have an in date electrical certificate

whynotmereally · 06/07/2025 22:03

Hope there is a reasonable explanation tomorrow op

stillchasingdereksheppard · 06/07/2025 21:54

Just shamelessly place marking as I want to know the ending of this one... sorry!

Wakeywakey678 · 06/07/2025 21:36

landladywithmissingtenant · 06/07/2025 17:14

(little) UPDATE: Note posted this morning before I went out giving 24hrs notice that I will be entering the flat for checks as I have heard nada from my note, and her phone still isn't connecting. Daughter has messaged on Facebook too, still nothing.
Will be going in at 9:30am tomorrow and will update!

I hope the outcome will be ok for you op... Looking forward to the update 👀 👀 👀

Lockdownsceptic · 06/07/2025 21:23

murasaki · 04/07/2025 22:44

Can you report the original post and ask MN to add 'THERE IS NO GAS BEFORE YOU ALL START' to it? 🤣

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I hope you have an up to date electricity certificate. Not needed as regularly as gas but still essential.

ComtesseDeSpair · 06/07/2025 21:21

I’m sure it’s been suggested already, but after the first dozen suggestions about gas safety checks and carbon monoxide alarms I stopped reading the thread. Requesting a police welfare check is appropriate in this situation. This is somebody who’s a friend and one who lives in the same building as you: you haven’t seen them around in weeks, their phone isn’t connecting for calls, they haven’t responded to you knocking on the door or putting a note through, and they aren’t replying to messages. It’s less risky, both for your safety if somebody else is living there and in terms of the legalities of being a landlord who has decided to just let themselves in - particularly since, if nobody is home when you go in, you’re going to be no closer to finding out what the situation is and can’t just keep on letting yourself in on the guise of an “emergency” or “inspection.”

Lockdownsceptic · 06/07/2025 21:21

Why haven’t you or your agent been doing regular checks to see that everything is OK?

Choux · 06/07/2025 20:22

I suspect tomorrow’s inspection is merely going to be an inspection of the front door and its’ chapper (I hope it’s also a noun as well as a verb?)

I doubt anyone is going to open the door to you but yes don’t go alone.

B1anche · 06/07/2025 19:15

Pepsipepsi · 06/07/2025 19:13

I'm surprised you haven't gone in under the guise of a gas safety inspection in all honesty...

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😂😂😂

Pepsipepsi · 06/07/2025 19:13

landladywithmissingtenant · 06/07/2025 17:53

If something criminal has taken place you've given them so much time to hide the evidence 🙈
maybe, but there's a process to these things that needs to be followed

landlords have a wonderful clause in their tenancy agreements that say admittance without notice for emergencies is permitted. I'd have been in there the first day you didn't get a response.
I have little - no evidence there's an Emergency. This is a person that's both my customer and my friend. I can't just go bursting into her home.

None of my landlords that let themselves in whenever they fancied ever got repercussions 🤷🏻‍♀️ the law just doesn't care unless in rare cases when it's tantamount to harassment.
That doesn't make it right. "I won't get caught/nothing will happen to me" doesn't make things morally legally right.

Not that I want to give unethical landlords any ideas...
Why say that then? you know they're unethical and you don't want to give them ideas and yet for tell me I should have gone straight in there before they had time to "hide the evidence"

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I'm surprised you haven't gone in under the guise of a gas safety inspection in all honesty...