I hate anti-vaxxers

You have to remember that many people's reasoning is affected by the absurdities of religion, or by poorly or uneducated parents who have ingrained them with a fear of medical science. I just feel pity for them and their children.

I'd be angry at the parents who know they should vaccinate their children but simply can't be bothered.

Until the covid vaccines arrived I didn’t know many vaccine sceptics. They were the hippy dippy parents and I strongly believe in choice

post Covid I would say half my circle is now sceptical - take from that what you want

Ineedcoffee2021

You are so ill-informed it is breathtaking

Covid vaccination was put out too soon. Before long term consequences could possibly be known. There is no hiding the terrible consequences that that has brought.

Like the many lives it saved?

Presumably the anti-vax people have some reasons that make sense to them, even if they are misguided. Calling them morons on line isn’t going to make a difference, it only entrenched views. People of my generation usually had Mumps, Measles,Chicken Pox and Rubella as children and no one I know had any complications, excepting my mother who was very poorly with Measles as a baby. I had Measles at 14, Rubella at University and Chickenpox in my 30’s, none of them pleasant but over quickly.

I remember when the MMR vaccine scare started and my parents who ran a GP practice spent so much time explaining to parents why the research was flawed, why the risk of an adverse effect even though present, was small compared to the risk of measles.

It would be good to teach herd immunity as part of history/geography in school. We were taught about the cholera outbreak as part of victorian history and about the importance of clean water and the beginning of epidemiology and how these decisions are made.

A friend of a friend recently was diagnosed with CIN3 following a smear, her parents had refused the HPV vaccine when she was at school. Thankfully she’s treated but it’s really really affected their relationship negatively.

Shall we do a reprise of that in the 21st century?

Well, on the upside @Ineedcoffee2021 would get to be edgy.

Covid vaccination was put out too soon. Before long term consequences could possibly be known. There is no hiding the terrible consequences that that has brought. The result is this had made people sceptical of all vaccines - even longstanding well established vaccines. The government could be transparent and recognise what happened - this might bring trust back. Government won't do that - yet. That increases dis-trust. Anti-vaxxers, generally, have thoroughly researched the topics and drawn their own conclusions. Personally, I wouldn't have the flu vaccine or covid vaccine. I won't use social media to say way. Its my choice - one of my sources of information was my GP - a government paid GP.
We see despicable, dangerous and life threatening decisions every day - think of damgerous drivers. Anti-vaxers, like immigrants get the brunt of public hate - and in this thread the unvaxed immigrants are getting it tight.

I agree. We should be like Australia and parts of where where no vaccination = no school. The parents who rely on herd immunity to protect their kids while refusing to vaccinate them need to have a look at themselves.

I hear you. The world can burn as long as you are alright!

What an attitude.

I'm from the generation when people actually had these nasty diseases because there was no vaccine. Everyone should be getting their child vaccinated as soon as possible, after all they are the ones who will suffer the effects and won't thank their parents later on for not doing so! Measles is exceptionally contagious and is very unpleasant to have, it can cause deafness and in some cases kill. So unnecessary to put a child through that.

So selfish, can't you see that you are potentially putting other peoples children at risk.
Main character syndrome.

I realise that there are plenty of people around who couldn't give a shit about other people's "feelies " (wtf), but don't they at least care about their own children contracting these awful diseases. Baffling.

i agree ☝️ I can’t get my head around it

They are when it affects heard immunity and puts extremely vulnerable groups at risk.

Yes, they do exist - I know about 4 or 5 otherwise sensible people, professional people, who became an anti-vaxxers. Most of them quietly get get on with not being vaccinated (which I will and do take them to task on). One, sadly, went down a very deep conspiracy rabbit hole, never to return - big mental health issues and so on. He's not very well at all, I hear (he moved to somewhere else).

Somebody in my NCT group is getting her baby the MMR at 9 months because they’re travelling to a high risk measles area. Might be worth seeing if your surgery will
vaccinate your baby early

I doubt it tbh
During covid non mask wearers weren’t ostracised and on here many people thought it was madness
Many also really weren’t bothered by meeting up and spreading the virus we saw it all the time and read it on here

People use public transport with bad colds and flu and could pass it on to the susceptible who could get pneumonia and die
People with mouth ulcers could permanently damage physically and mentally an unborn child but they don’t stay at home to protect others

So I really doubt many people would be that bothered because people risk the lives of others through their own selfiousness every day

It was picked up online as an easy way to target the gullible sadly.

Fuck all to do with "feelies', everything to do with the potential death or disability of the immunocompromised such as my 6 year old niece.

Fortunately you and your family are protected by people with fully functioning brain cells. Actual adult cognition and reasoning is not usually called "feelies."

IRL people DO give a shit but we're busy with our everyday lives and it doesn't come up.

If we knew you were anti-vax IRL we would ostracise you.

Agree

I also think it was the approach during Covid that helped cause this.