I hate anti-vaxxers

It's given to anyone who is in an at risk group - family in countries where it is endemic, frequent travel there or contacts who travel.

It's not just a London thing - diversity exists outside of the M25

My kids have had all their vaccines other than covid. I didn't see the point of it ax they had already had covid 3 times by the time they were offered it and probably had equivalent immunity from infection. Anyone think I'm selfish for this?

If an adult, it’s their choice not to get vaccinated but I can’t understand people who don’t get their kids vaccinated in this day and age. Measles can be fatal FFS.

Like others I would make a full suite of vaccinations compulsory if you want to send your kids to nursery/ school.

It’s not about ‘Feelies’ whatever the fuck they are, life or death choices in the hands of people that say things like that seem dangerous and wrong.

*I have a life long autoimmune condition provoked by the Rubella vaccine. I could argue it the other way. I am pro vaccine by the way. I am currently researching a family from the 1840s who lost infant children to whooping cough and measles.

I think more people would vaccinate if the NHS were honest that in some rare cases vaccines do cause unforeseen side effects.*

I am sorry that you were harmed by preventative medicine, and accept that there are risks as well as benefits to vaccines.

However, you were harmed as a result of your parents making a choice in the hope of benefiting both your future babies and those of other women. Harm was caused to one individual. I do not know how many of ds's student cohort are now infertile as a result of the mumps epidemic, or have also developed auto-immune conditions, or took the infection home to their infant relatives.

Covid has given anti-vaxers the platform plus the growing cancer rates which no one can give a clear answer on. Everytime you see someone with cancer reported on in the media there are comments of it ‘was the covid vaccine?’ and it gets in your head after a while, when I had cancer last year I refused to have the Covid vaccine again as no one can tell me why as a healthy 40 year old with no family history I got cancer, just in case the vaccine caused it. Now I don’t believe it was but they can get in your head easily.

My irony meter just exploded.

Care to elaborate?

You do realise that it’s only herd immunity that’s protecting your kids from measles?

My mother is 86. When she was a child she lost a friend to measles and another to whooping cough. A third friend was left deaf by measles.Because of her experiences, and the fact that all of my friends had parents who also had direct experience of these horrific diseases, not a single one of us would have dreamt of being anti vaxx. My parents would have thought I was an absolute fool not to give my children the protection that was not available to them. The last generation to directly experience those horrors is gradually dying off. People have become complacent because we don't see people with polio( my secondary school art teacher had lost an arm to polio as a child), or brain damaged through measles or sterile because of mumps, so we waft about thinking it will all be okay and that there will be enough ' sheep' having the vaccination to mean that others can choose to opt out . There are plenty of videos online of children suffering these diseases. Good to have a look before you decide you won't bother.

Banning anti-vaxxers kids from education is a terrible idea. They need educating by someone other than their (moronic) parents.

Spreading false information about vaccines affects everybody.

I worked on the frontline during COVID. We had one guy come in with hideously low sats, and clearly frightened, using what breath he had to rail about how COVID was made up and the government were trying to control him and Bill Gates was using the vaccine for mind control - the whole lot. We cared for him for nearly 3 weeks. In his final week, one of the last things he said to us while he was still able to talk was “I wish I had listened and had the jab”. He died a few days later. He was in his late 40s.

Wrong. They impact everyone.

I agree there's lots of problems in the education system too such as bringing trans ideology into schools but that's another matter.

Anti-vaxxers are generally people who think they are more intelligent than the rest of us. They aren’t. They are people who don’t fully understand science and have got swept up in conspiracy.

Unvaccinated children should not be allowed in schools or childcare settings. If people don’t want to vaccinate their kids, fine, but their kids should not be mixing with others.

In the UK it's lefty 'alternative' parents

very ignorant comment . The point is it DOES impact us all.

in fact it’s the sort of idiotic comment someone with no understanding would make. Like hmmmm. An anti-vaxxer.

Lack of opportunity of getting vaccinated, if it is the immigrant population. People across Africa and India etc will walk and queue all day to have their children vaccinated. The people that don't want their children vaccinated are the ones who think that if we have enough to eat, our bodies can fight off every disease. Like elderly people, who've lived through killer childhood diseases, so do the populations from poorer countries/immigrant temporary housing and don't reject modern medicine. They grow up surrounded by death and disease.

It just makes me angry when the antivaxers are rejecting vaccinations for their children, but getting cosmetic injections from randoms working from home and also do drugs.

My brother was in a coma through measles back in the 80’s, it’s a serious illness.

They do, they are just too polite to say it to your face.

Here an anti-vaxxer clearly reveals that they don’t understand how vaccines work.

Of course they are - they may affect the society as a whole….. as various epidemics indicate.

So am I.
I have rubbish eyesight as a result of having measles as a child.

I also remember seeing children in leg calipers as a result of contracting polio.

I don't know if it is still available on iPlayer but Michael Mosley did a brilliant TV series with the Open University called Pain, Pus and Poison. It told the extraordinary story of how the world’s most useful and valuable drugs were created, and how our search to cure ourselves of anything from the most common, to the most life threatening of ailments, has led to the discovery of some of the most widely used pharmaceuticals on the planet.

The episode about the development of vaccines brilliantly demonstrated how smallpox was wiped out.