I hate anti-vaxxers

A lot of anti vaxxers are doctors

Any actual evidence of this! Or just what you heard from someone who heard it from someone

Having the Covid jab nearly killed me. In hospital for 4 month.

Every country has differing vaccine schedules so this blind hatred of "anti vaxxers" is a bit ridiculous. My child was born in London and received the bcg vaccine, then we moved back to Ireland where that wasn't the standard. Are the irish authorities anti vaxx? Then we moved to the US and my child received several vaccines that aren't on the schedule in the UK or Ireland, such as the chicken pox one and had to take extra ones of some she already had due to differing formulations. Does the fact that the UK doesn't vaccinate against chicken pox as standard make them science deniers? Anyway, now I'm an "anti vaxxer" and derided because I chose not to get any covid shot despite the fact that I'm clearly not due to all the aforementioned shots my kid has received. Make it make sense

Same. My brother had Whooping Cough so badly that my mother thought he might die.

When my youngest son was admitted to Kings College Hospital as a baby for an infection, the first question they asked us was whether his immunisations all up to date? I was very relieved that they were, and so were they.

The pushback would be massive if you blocked one in four adults from the NHS and travel. You would possbily see an insurgency or open rebellion in some areas.

Not true.

Anti-vax ears are making it dangerous for everyone, particularly those who cannot gave vaccines for medical reasons, those who are vaccinated but they didn’t work, those who are vaccinated but it’s not as effective due to medical reasons. All of those above rely on herd immunity as a protective factor: anti backers are decimating herd immunity.

Yet here you are, using the internet, created by scientists, seemingly without concern. Let me guess, if your kid gets really unwell, you wouldn't hesitate to benefit from science then, would you?

Someone very close to me is deaf because of an illness in childhood that they hadn't been vaccinated against.

And yet other people’s families are impacted by your grossly ignorant belligerence.

Depends on the vaccine. People should have all the regular ones that have been around for decades. However, not wanting the Covid jab didn't make someone an anti vaxxer, it just made them anti that 'vaccine.'

Being sceptical about a vaccine that wasn't actually a vaccine and got pumped out in record time therefore had no long term latent side effects research was not something I was ever going to take willingly, despite the media scaremongering and peer pressure.

Unfortunately we are seeing those delayed effects coming home to roost.

I'd add you are either all for bodily autonomy or you aren't. I've seen men online going insane about potential vax mandates during the pandemic, whilst still supporting the abolition of abortion rights.

OP are you pro choice by any chance? If so you have to accept the decisions people make with their own bodies otherwise it is hypocrisy.

You've contradicted yourself - your only concern is yourself and your family, yet in the next sentence you say you won't do 'stuff' to your body or your kid's body? You need to protect your family by vaccinating them, not leaving them to get sick when you could have protected them with an extremely safe vaccine! I just don't understand that attitude. And by the way you do 'stuff' to your body every single day by eating, breathing and drinking! Perhaps give that some thought?

What a disgusting thing to say.

Exactly none of us are. But those who are, are also bound by the incentive structures of their organisations that guarantee we don't hear the full truth. Profit trumps safety wherever they can get away with it.

It also demonstrates a lack of care and empathy for their own children, as they are at risk too. These selfish parents are protected, as they had the vaccine, but they will happily put their children at risk "out of concern".

@1dayatatime I've read some nonsense in my time, but this takes the biscuit. Defining the difference between a vaccine and a jab? "Jab" being slang for an injection has no medical definition. None whatsoever. You can be vaccinated against some diseases, you can be inoculated against others. You can call either or both "jabs" if you like, but it has no medical meaning. Stop peddling nonsense.

People in real life do give a shit. Just that they feel more comfortable expressing their views anonymously online than in person face to face.

Have you ever seen anyone try to be treated for vaccine injury, OP? I have, and the medical denial and gaslighting that goes on is truly incredible. It's no wonder there is so much suspicion and conspiracy when genuine cases of injury are so strenuously denied. (It was eventually admitted but it was a real fight to get there).

I'm not an anti vaxxer for the really serious diseases - the pros outweigh the cons on these. But I won't have the covid or flu vaccine.

Would you say the same to someone smoking in doors, especially around children? What about drunk driving or going out in public with an infectious disease?

These choices are absolutely all of our concern, as they put us all at risk. These reckless decisions remove other people's choices to be responsible.

It is when your choices make others sick! 😡

With regards to the HPV vaccine, yes it only protects against some strains, but those are dangerous strains that can cause cancer. From what I remember, kids are given it in year 8/9 and many won’t fully appreciate the significance of it at that age, but that’s where I feel that a parent should strongly advise their 13/14 year olds to have it due to the possible consequences of not having it.

@Cappuccino5

I’m not an anti-vaxxer but I also won’t just blindly take any vaccine without weighing things up and doing my research.

What does "doing your research" entail?

Do you do a decades-long clinical trial involving thousands of subjects and publish peer-reviewed research on it before deciding to accept a vaccine? Or do you read stuff on YouTube.

They're proud of it too! Imagine flaunting your ignorance and utter lack of care and empathy for anyone else's children but your own.

That poster wouldn't care. She has said that she only cares about her own family.