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I hate anti-vaxxers

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An89 · 04/07/2025 02:33

How can anyone in this day and age be an anti-vaxxer? London and West mids currently suffering from a meassls outbreak. DS is under 1 so cannot yet have vaccine, I know of someone whose 10momth old contracted measels as they were too young for vaccine.
Ridiculous that reckless and tardy parents are putting all our children at risk. Actually terrible.

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MsDDxx · 13/07/2025 09:44

Ineedcoffee2021 · 04/07/2025 03:21

My only concern is me and my family honestly
I wont do stuff to my body or my kids body for anyone elses feelies

Your poor children.

Holluschickie · 13/07/2025 09:42

At least schools should mandate vaccination. It's done all over the world. I know my cousins in India have to provide a vaccination record for their school going children. Spread is worst there.
Anti-vaxxers can home educate.

Holluschickie · 13/07/2025 09:27

Futurehappiness · 13/07/2025 09:24

How terrible! and so avoidable. Honestly fuck anti vaxxers.

Jk987 · 13/07/2025 09:11

Ineedcoffee2021 · 04/07/2025 03:04

others medical choices are none of your concern

Except when their choices contribute to an outbreak of measles. If you don’t want to be vaccinated, go and live on a remote island.

SnakesAndArrows · 13/07/2025 08:39

Orderofthephoenixparody · 13/07/2025 00:43

I am so sorry to hear that. It was a very troubling time. You don't know if she would have survived or not. There was reports coming out of people dying from COVID after getting the vaccine. Young healthy people died from it. When you look at the national health service they don't know their patients health or underlying health issues. I remember a fit footballer had a heart attack on the pitch live on Tele. The NHS won't check for any possible underlying issues in any of their patients unless necessary because it would cost to much money. I am not knocking the NHS but they are struggling and they don't have the money.

My mum passed away two years ago she had endometrial cancer. I had a smear test done the nurse told me I shouldn't get it I don't need to worry. How does she know that when they missed it in my mother. She had regular smear tests every 3 years and they missed it.

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I am sorry for your loss, but smear tests don’t look for endometrial cancer.

sleepwouldbenice · 13/07/2025 00:57

AnxiousOCDMum · 12/07/2025 22:55

Ok 🤪

You are really coming across as completely ridiculous now. What a waste of your life

Orderofthephoenixparody · 13/07/2025 00:43

madaboutpurple · 12/07/2025 20:39

My best friend would not go for her covid jabs .She died last year as she got covid. To my way of thinking hers was a needless death and I still miss her very much.

I am so sorry to hear that. It was a very troubling time. You don't know if she would have survived or not. There was reports coming out of people dying from COVID after getting the vaccine. Young healthy people died from it. When you look at the national health service they don't know their patients health or underlying health issues. I remember a fit footballer had a heart attack on the pitch live on Tele. The NHS won't check for any possible underlying issues in any of their patients unless necessary because it would cost to much money. I am not knocking the NHS but they are struggling and they don't have the money.

My mum passed away two years ago she had endometrial cancer. I had a smear test done the nurse told me I shouldn't get it I don't need to worry. How does she know that when they missed it in my mother. She had regular smear tests every 3 years and they missed it.

DucklingSwimmingInstructress · 13/07/2025 00:01

cardibach · 12/07/2025 20:34

What’s that got to do with scientists?
And actually, why not? Beyond general issues with being a billionaire he seems to be fairly philanthropic.

I wouldn't worry about AnxiousOCDMum, she thinks the best thing to do with smallpox (30 - 90% death rate) is to 'make people comfortable and let their bodies fight it'

;)

Alltheyellowbirds · 12/07/2025 23:44

AnxiousOCDMum · 12/07/2025 23:08

And why would I care about how I’m coming across on a random online forum to strangers?

Ultimately, you do you. Have all of the jabs, eat all of the lab grown meat, why not get stung by a few of Bill Gates GMO mosquitoes too? Get behind all his wonderful projects that he most definitely won’t profit from… why not? His funded scientists say it’s safe so you’ll def be fine 👌🏽

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Are you 12? Is this how you conduct conversations in your real life too? I’m out. Life is too short.

AnxiousOCDMum · 12/07/2025 23:08

Alltheyellowbirds · 12/07/2025 23:02

Do you even know anything about all the work he has funded, or do you just dismiss it all because Moira on Facebook told you he eats babies?

I can tell from the way you’re responding to everyone that you feel you possess a superior intellect to the rest of us, but believe me that isn’t how you’re coming across.

And why would I care about how I’m coming across on a random online forum to strangers?

Ultimately, you do you. Have all of the jabs, eat all of the lab grown meat, why not get stung by a few of Bill Gates GMO mosquitoes too? Get behind all his wonderful projects that he most definitely won’t profit from… why not? His funded scientists say it’s safe so you’ll def be fine 👌🏽

bluecurtains14 · 12/07/2025 23:06

ncduetooutingsituation · 12/07/2025 22:35

My sister had her Covid jab, to ‘save the universe’, or similar. She had breast cancer, and a reasonable prognosis.
She died several weeks later from multiple organ failure.
Her oncologist stated that unfortunately the vaccine had many unexpected problems, and in retrospect it should not have been given to the vulnerable so readily.
I miss her too.
It’s not as straightforward as you are suggesting.

I call bullshit on this.

Alltheyellowbirds · 12/07/2025 23:02

AnxiousOCDMum · 12/07/2025 22:47

”Donated” 😂

Do you even know anything about all the work he has funded, or do you just dismiss it all because Moira on Facebook told you he eats babies?

I can tell from the way you’re responding to everyone that you feel you possess a superior intellect to the rest of us, but believe me that isn’t how you’re coming across.

AnxiousOCDMum · 12/07/2025 22:55

bluecurtains14 · 12/07/2025 22:53

Those doctors are largely social media grifters.

Ok 🤪

AnxiousOCDMum · 12/07/2025 22:54

cardibach · 12/07/2025 22:32

Dear God. You’ve had this explained to you. Some science is funded by businesses, and yes, it’s worth knowing which ones and being mindful. Not all is amd anyway it’s peer reviewed. Not everyone is venal and corrupt either.
It’s a damn sight smarter to believe in science than to believe in…what? Who is giving you your information? Where are they from? What’s their qualification level? Who funds them? Are they peer reviewed?

Had this explained to me? By who? All
you “scientists” and “experts”? Isn’t it only those who I should believe? Even if their studies are biased? Even if the whole pharmaceutical industry relies on people becoming sick? When will the penny drop?

bluecurtains14 · 12/07/2025 22:53

Scottyme · 04/07/2025 08:16

Many doctors and nurses I know, refuse to get vaccinated or choose only have some vaccinations, for one reason or another. If you go to your GP surgery or Hospital, do you actively ask their vaccination status before they treat you?

You cannot say a medical consultant is ignorant or uneducated in this field. Quite the contrary.

btw I and my children have had all our vaccinations

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Those doctors are largely social media grifters.

AnxiousOCDMum · 12/07/2025 22:49

ncduetooutingsituation · 12/07/2025 22:35

My sister had her Covid jab, to ‘save the universe’, or similar. She had breast cancer, and a reasonable prognosis.
She died several weeks later from multiple organ failure.
Her oncologist stated that unfortunately the vaccine had many unexpected problems, and in retrospect it should not have been given to the vulnerable so readily.
I miss her too.
It’s not as straightforward as you are suggesting.

I’m so sorry for your loss. There are many doctors who are speaking out about the Covid vax and how dangerous it is. People will not understand the true extent of how terrible it os until years later down the line. Anyone willingly having it now really needs to reassess.

AnxiousOCDMum · 12/07/2025 22:47

Alltheyellowbirds · 12/07/2025 22:32

I’ve always been a bit bemused about why the conspiracy theorists loathe Bill Gates so much. Have you any idea how much money he has donated over the years? Or all the work his foundation has done, for example trying to eradicate malaria? Surely your hatred should be directed at the billionaires sitting on their wealth not the ones giving it away.

”Donated” 😂

ncduetooutingsituation · 12/07/2025 22:35

madaboutpurple · 12/07/2025 20:39

My best friend would not go for her covid jabs .She died last year as she got covid. To my way of thinking hers was a needless death and I still miss her very much.

My sister had her Covid jab, to ‘save the universe’, or similar. She had breast cancer, and a reasonable prognosis.
She died several weeks later from multiple organ failure.
Her oncologist stated that unfortunately the vaccine had many unexpected problems, and in retrospect it should not have been given to the vulnerable so readily.
I miss her too.
It’s not as straightforward as you are suggesting.

Alltheyellowbirds · 12/07/2025 22:32

AnxiousOCDMum · 12/07/2025 22:19

😂 ok love, you believe that if you want. Have all his jabs and eat all his GMO lab grown meats and keep your rose tinted spectacles on. I’m sure you’ll be grand 👌🏽

I’ve always been a bit bemused about why the conspiracy theorists loathe Bill Gates so much. Have you any idea how much money he has donated over the years? Or all the work his foundation has done, for example trying to eradicate malaria? Surely your hatred should be directed at the billionaires sitting on their wealth not the ones giving it away.

cardibach · 12/07/2025 22:32

AnxiousOCDMum · 12/07/2025 22:27

You believe scientists who are paid and instructed by those who profit off of the “research”. You sound smart.

Dear God. You’ve had this explained to you. Some science is funded by businesses, and yes, it’s worth knowing which ones and being mindful. Not all is amd anyway it’s peer reviewed. Not everyone is venal and corrupt either.
It’s a damn sight smarter to believe in science than to believe in…what? Who is giving you your information? Where are they from? What’s their qualification level? Who funds them? Are they peer reviewed?

CanadaNotAMum · 12/07/2025 22:31

DogCrew · 04/07/2025 03:23

What’s the alternative though, forcing people to have vaccinations? I don’t think that’s a road we want to go down.

We just need to keep educating people about the consequences of not having them and being honest about the risks so that conspiracy theories have less chance of spreading. I think we need to have the ‘frightening’ adverts on tv and social media showing what not vaccinating can do but I also believe people should be able to choose.

Our kids are vaccinated for everything except for flu or Covid and I want to keep that right to choose.

I know some people who don’t vaccinate with right wing and left wing views so it’s not just a political thing.

Education and transparency are key.

I think education may work for a subset of antivaxxers who have a poor understanding of science. But the core of the antivaxxer movement seems to be a combination of selfishness, lack of empathy, and anti-establishment rebellion.

Arguments appealing to their humanity, like herd immunity, makes no difference because they only care about themselves and their own families, too bad for the rest of us.

GonnaeNoDaeThatJustGonnaeNo · 12/07/2025 22:29

Uneducated and/or not very bright/sometimes just nuts

definitely antisocial and should be socially isolated due to their threat to public health and failure to be good citizens

AnxiousOCDMum · 12/07/2025 22:27

cardibach · 12/07/2025 22:26

I believe science. I don’t think that’s a radical position, or one requiring your hideous condescension. I’m not your love by the way.

You believe scientists who are paid and instructed by those who profit off of the “research”. You sound smart.

cardibach · 12/07/2025 22:26

AnxiousOCDMum · 12/07/2025 22:19

😂 ok love, you believe that if you want. Have all his jabs and eat all his GMO lab grown meats and keep your rose tinted spectacles on. I’m sure you’ll be grand 👌🏽

I believe science. I don’t think that’s a radical position, or one requiring your hideous condescension. I’m not your love by the way.