Page 3 | To be happy that Jeremy Corbyn and Zarah Sultana are founding a new party.

LancashireButterPie · 2025-07-03T20:30:41+00:00

We need someone with backbone to put forward an alternative political viewpoint.

User32459 · 05/07/2025 08:36

Whatafustercluck · 05/07/2025 08:31

None of that actually addresses the points I've made. The majority of the electorate are neither right nor left, but in the middle. Corbyn will have some moderate success attracting the left, but risks achieving the opposite of his ambitions - a far right government.

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Farage really isn't that extreme. He's just a populist like Boris and has been moving Reform to the centre.

Mumble12 · 05/07/2025 08:34

Whatafustercluck · 05/07/2025 08:31

None of that actually addresses the points I've made. The majority of the electorate are neither right nor left, but in the middle. Corbyn will have some moderate success attracting the left, but risks achieving the opposite of his ambitions - a far right government.

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But Corbyn had his chance and was unable to secure a win in a General Election.

i mean it did address the point you made

Whatafustercluck · 05/07/2025 08:31

taxguru · 05/07/2025 08:18

Starmer didn't really get that many more votes in 2024 than Corbyn did in 2019! Corbyn, had he remained as leader, would probably have won the GE in 2024. Labour/Starmer didn't "win" it, the Tories lost it as their vote collapsed. Starmer isn't really that much more "Popular" than Corbyn was.

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None of that actually addresses the points I've made. The majority of the electorate are neither right nor left, but in the middle. Corbyn will have some moderate success attracting the left, but risks achieving the opposite of his ambitions - a far right government.

EasternStandard · 05/07/2025 08:28

taxguru · 05/07/2025 08:19

It's not for "ordinary working people" anymore and hasn't been for a few decades. It's bank rolled by the public sector unions and exists mainly to pander to the public sector workers. If you're self employed or work in a non unionised workforce you can bugger off because they're not interested.

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True

User32459 · 05/07/2025 08:26

SayLaveee · 03/07/2025 21:58

If they're standing for Palestine, TWAW and more immigration then im still a politically homeless left wing voter

This is why people who are traditionally left are either politically homeless or even tempted by Reform.

A large number are concerned about the UK more than Palestine (and think Hamas are beyond the pale regardless of what they think of Israel's actions). They think the trans issue is nonsensical and became emblematic of the widely discredited woke movement. They also think uncontrolled immigration is killing the fabric of the country. These are all the issues Corbyn and co stand for.

Student woke politics has absolutely massacred the left.

taxguru · 05/07/2025 08:19

OonaStubbs · 04/07/2025 22:33

Hopefully all the nutters will flock to this new party and leave Labour to be the party for ordinary working people, as it was always supposed to be.

It's not for "ordinary working people" anymore and hasn't been for a few decades. It's bank rolled by the public sector unions and exists mainly to pander to the public sector workers. If you're self employed or work in a non unionised workforce you can bugger off because they're not interested.

Allisgoodtoday · 05/07/2025 08:18

Bloody hell, not Corbyn again. Let's hope he doesn't get a cat's chance in hell, this is a dreadful idea.....another very elderly white man with some batshit ideas who wants to be a world leader. Haven't we got enough of these already?

taxguru · 05/07/2025 08:18

Whatafustercluck · 05/07/2025 08:14

But Corbyn had his chance and was unable to secure a win in a General Election. So while you're right that dyed in the wool Labour supporters will be tempted over, most of the broader electorate are centrists. It's why Blair was popular. And Cameron, as a moderate Conservative. So if Corbyn thinks he's standing up against the right (of his party), all he's actually doing is potentially opening the door in the UK to the far right.

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Starmer didn't really get that many more votes in 2024 than Corbyn did in 2019! Corbyn, had he remained as leader, would probably have won the GE in 2024. Labour/Starmer didn't "win" it, the Tories lost it as their vote collapsed. Starmer isn't really that much more "Popular" than Corbyn was.

User32459 · 05/07/2025 08:17

These leftists/independents are more bothered about Palestine than the ongoing destruction of our own country.

Whatafustercluck · 05/07/2025 08:14

JustSawJohnny · 04/07/2025 22:02

While I agree with your latter statement (ANYTHING is better than Reform!), I think Starmer could be shocked by the amount of unhappy Labour voters who want a return to more leftist politics.

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But Corbyn had his chance and was unable to secure a win in a General Election. So while you're right that dyed in the wool Labour supporters will be tempted over, most of the broader electorate are centrists. It's why Blair was popular. And Cameron, as a moderate Conservative. So if Corbyn thinks he's standing up against the right (of his party), all he's actually doing is potentially opening the door in the UK to the far right.

EasternStandard · 05/07/2025 08:04

RainbowBagels · 05/07/2025 07:57

all these old white men declaring her a dud I have no time for.
Her party consists, so far of her and...an old White man! (and despite the myth of his supporters a pretty privileged one)

Well yeh but I’m talking about the Labour MP’s reaction to Sultana

The Ian Lavery quote below

tammienorrie · 05/07/2025 07:59

SunnySideDeepDown · 03/07/2025 21:38

Haha Corbyn? Nah.

My reaction too.

Fair enough if they want to start a new wee club for people who want their style of "government", you have to admire their integrity for standing up for what they believe in.

They are never going to get anywhere with it though so it's a pointless waste of time.

RainbowBagels · 05/07/2025 07:57

all these old white men declaring her a dud I have no time for.
Her party consists, so far of her and...an old White man! (and despite the myth of his supporters a pretty privileged one)

OonaStubbs · 04/07/2025 22:33

Hopefully all the nutters will flock to this new party and leave Labour to be the party for ordinary working people, as it was always supposed to be.

ArtTheClown · 04/07/2025 22:29

Yes, Jews are absolutely the only minority to ever have experienced discrimination, you're right.

Two out of three European Jews were murdered in the Holocaust. In light of that, your glib comment reads poorly.

ExercicenformedeZ · 04/07/2025 22:11

EasternStandard · 04/07/2025 16:25

Meh some old curmudgeons. Everyone will tear you down at the start. Sounds like she has some energy. Good luck to her, even not agreeing with policies all these old white men declaring her a dud I have no time for.

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She doesn't represent anyone in the UK. Maybe she should run in Gaza as that's all she seems to care about.

JustSawJohnny · 04/07/2025 22:02

Whatafustercluck · 04/07/2025 16:32

He'll split the vote and allow Reform in. Slow hand clap.

A centrist government is by far better than a Reform one.

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While I agree with your latter statement (ANYTHING is better than Reform!), I think Starmer could be shocked by the amount of unhappy Labour voters who want a return to more leftist politics.

caringcarer · 04/07/2025 19:16

Mumble12 · 04/07/2025 18:49

Do you work for him?

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No

TonTonMacoute · 04/07/2025 19:09

They have just royally fucked up the launch of their own new party. What on earth could these losers possibly do to make the lives of the poor and needy in any way better? I wouldn't trust them to run a food bank frankly.

Mumble12 · 04/07/2025 18:50

ForWittyTealOP · 04/07/2025 13:55

How are we meant to know who you're referring to if you won't call people by their full names? You might as well be talking about characters from EastEnders. I really hate this new trend, it just shows the insidious creep of populism where politicians like Farage pretend they're everyone's best mate. We can do better.

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Well presumably she’s talking about neither of the people this thread refers to as neither are called Sarah 😂

Mumble12 · 04/07/2025 18:49

caringcarer · 04/07/2025 16:24

How many followers does Zarah Sultana have? Nigel Farage has over a million 16-17 year old followers on Tiktok.

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Do you work for him?

Mumble12 · 04/07/2025 18:49

caringcarer · 04/07/2025 12:47

How many followers does Sarah have with young people? Nigel has over a million of 16-17 year olds on Tiktok.

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Who’s sarah

dottiehens · 04/07/2025 18:21

Anyway the left must accept they will be out for at least three terms in the elections.

Boredlass · 04/07/2025 18:18

Corbyn should be nowhere near politics and anyone who votes for him doesn’t understand politics at all.

dottiehens · 04/07/2025 18:17

MonetsLilac · 04/07/2025 09:02

Zarah Sultana has the biggest social media following of any MP. She's very popular with young people.

Of course they prey on the young and innocent people.