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To think this woman should be thoroughly ashamed of herself?

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Tarjet · 03/07/2025 18:42

My son was driving to work at the weekend and was waiting for a car parking space. A woman in a huge Range Rover reversed out of the space at speed and hit my son’s car. He was far enough back to see what was going to happen and blast his horn. She still kept on coming.

The damage was fortunately quite minimal but my son’s little fiesta needs a panel realigned. At the time the woman was hugely apologetic, admitted fault (and when my son rang me I could hear her in the background still apologising).

They exchanged details and she asked if she could pay for the repair without going through insurance - which was perfect as I know even a ‘no fault claim’ bumps your premium up.

Fast forward to today - son messaged her with the repair update (it’s being assessed tomorrow) and she’s now changed her tune and blaming my son for the accident and is now going through the insurance as her car has a dent. Or she said he could pay to have it fixed! The fucking audacity is making my blood boil.

Anything I can do before I explode in anger?

We think there is CCTV at the retail park so that will be my first step I think.

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Waterweight · 03/07/2025 22:31

W0tnow · 03/07/2025 18:44

If you reverse into someone it’s automatically your fault, right?

Nah it's "if you hit somebody from behind, it's automatically your fault" reversing into somebody is alot more complicated so very lucky it's happened near cameras actually

Tarjet · 03/07/2025 22:29

Thanks for all the feedback. Yes, he definitely needs a dashcam! And of course, insurance will now be involved.

I think what has annoyed me is that she thinks she can gaslight a young lad with his first modest car into paying for something that was her fault.

Obviously she’s got home and thought about it and realised with no witnesses she can say what she likes. Driving her bloody great wagon recklessly with zero consequences and making out she’s innocent of any wrongdoing is just so morally wrong. I’m just hoping we can get the CCTV. And I hope karma bites her on the arse.

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BrickBiscuit · 03/07/2025 22:19

@Tarjet, please take the advice you have been given and report it to your insurers and police (online or 101). Use any online or 24-hour phone service you can. Don't wait until tomorrow or you will have added another day's delay. You are beyond the time limits for both, which puts you in breach of contract and law, but salvage what you can. Give outline details now for each to create a case file, and fill in with any more you are asked for later.

YourOnMute · 03/07/2025 22:18

RebelMoon · 03/07/2025 19:38

If your son was waiting for a car parking space, then presumably he was stationary? If so, she reversed into a vehicle that wasn't moving and that immediately puts her at fault

You'd have thought so but when I was involved in an almost identical incident my insurance company accepted a compromise 50-50 settlement. I was not best pleased. I was stationary, waiting to turn into a parking space when the woman reversed out of a space into my driver's door. She accepted it was her fault but months down the line her insurance company started paying silly buggers over it. I'm still baffled as to how it could be deemed partly my fault, it's not like I could have moved sideways into her car.

Same happened me. I was very angry over it. I actually beeped like a lunatic as she approached me. Worse still, when I got out of the car she sped off! I had her license number and reported it to the police and insurance.
Despite leaving the scene of an accident the police were absolutely useless.
She denied I was stationary and my insurance settled 50/50. They often just go for the easiest option to avoid fighting in court (which costs more).

HopefulBeliever · 03/07/2025 22:06

I was in a 3 car pile up and the car at the very rear who hit us both tried to deny hitting anyone even when we had both felt what she did and the whole front of her car was crumpled in and the police attended the scene. I would never ever trust anyone who asked to deal outside the insurance. They can claim for all sorts and your insurer can void your policy if you fail to report an accident no matter whether you are claiming or the report is for information only. I used to work in liability. Some things are easy to figure out looking at areas and angles of impacts and what can and cannot happen. Other things can be decided as split liability in court or you can agree knock for knock but through the insurer so it is official and there is no comeback. And I would always recommend a dash cam for everyone of any age.

4pmwinetimebebeh · 03/07/2025 22:05

I’d send a breezy ‘don’t worry I’ve got hold of the cctv footage so I’ll pass it on to my insurer no problem’. See if she changes her tune!

Aprilrainagainagain · 03/07/2025 21:21

This happened to me. Sadly I got nothing. My car was rubbish and she was in a brand new black range rover. Nice to start then horrible.

She owns a leading fashion brand and is worth millions. I just didn't have the money to fight her
I ended up paying for my own repairs.

TonTonMacoute · 03/07/2025 21:17

KrisAkabusi · 03/07/2025 19:09

You're being unreasonable for ever agreeing not to involve insurance. This is what it's for!! Not i volving thrm is a breach of your contract, so if they found out you had an accident and hadn't told them your premiums would shoot up anyway. Tell them now and leave it to them to sort out.

This.

Dont contact the woman, don't stress, just let the insurance company deal with it. Life's too short!

Londonrach1 · 03/07/2025 21:16

Go through insurance let them deal with it

Bitzee · 03/07/2025 21:15

It should always go through insurance. It’s there to protect you and legally you have to tell them anyway. You’ve given your son really bad advice there. Insurance companies do also advise not to admit liability so there is that. Doesn’t mean lying is ok but oh crap let’s take photos and pass to insurance should always be the go to response. Also if there are any witnesses then ask if they’ll give their details. Make sure your son knows this in future. Also get him a dashcam. They’re relatively cheap and so worth it for situations like this. Practically, try to get the CCTV but other than that there’s not much you can do except let the insurers handle it. And if it helps you feel better RR lady is probably worrying her snazzy car is now uninsurable- they’re not easy to insure at the best of times due to all the thefts but it’ll be even harder after a crash.

mathanxiety · 03/07/2025 21:14

Happyher · 03/07/2025 20:57

I would never not report an incident to my insurance company. It’s what you pay insurance for and if you pay for free legal expenses on your policy you can get your excess back and possibly protect your NCD if the accident is not your fault. The insurance company won’t be happy that your son didn’t report this at the time. Why would you trust the word of a stranger who caused the accident

Agree.

mathanxiety · 03/07/2025 21:13

dogcatkitten · 03/07/2025 21:02

Don't put that in writing you should always put an accident through insurance and theoretically tell the police you are putting yourself in the wrong. Just say it is going through your insurance, and that's it.

Yes to this.

It's a financial matter. Don't take any of it personally. There is no need for mud slinging.

mathanxiety · 03/07/2025 21:12

The moving car is at fault.

He needs to emphasise to the insurance agent who will call that he was not moving at all, had his foot firmly on the brake, or in lark if an automatic,and was waiting for the other driver to vacate the space. Emphasise he was not moving forward.

He will also be asked what if anything he did to prevent the accident. Blowing the horn loudly is OK as far as it goes, but could he have reversed quickly? He may well be asked what kept him from doing this.

If there were witnesses to the accident that would be ideal.

dogcatkitten · 03/07/2025 21:02

GodSavetheJean · 03/07/2025 18:51

Dear Lady in Range Rover,

I tried to give you the benefit of the doubt when you requested we avoid reporting to insurance but now you are trying to rip me off, so thankfully I have the CCTV which clearly shows that I was stopped and you reversed into my car. I will proceed with filing a claim with my insurance and reporting this to the police.

Don't put that in writing you should always put an accident through insurance and theoretically tell the police you are putting yourself in the wrong. Just say it is going through your insurance, and that's it.

Luckyescape16 · 03/07/2025 20:58

NC for this as friends have heard the story.

Of course she should be ashamed of herself but I will always be grateful to someone who didn’t insist on going through insurance:

As a young postgraduate student on a very low wage, I lightly scraped the expensive sports car parked next to my old banger as I was exiting a tight parking space in a poorly lit public garage. I really could not afford an increase in my premium and public transport was very poor.

No one was around and there wasn’t much CCTV in use in my country back then so I probably could have got away with leaving the scene. I left a note with all the necessary details, explained that I was a doctoral student on an assistantship, and asked the driver to consider ringing me. He did, I offered to pay directly, he started asking about my studies, my supervisor, etc. Turns out he was a (very well paid) professor in the medical school. He agreed to get some estimates and ring me back - he even knew my office via the campus directory - but I never heard from him again. My insurance remained unblemished.

Happyher · 03/07/2025 20:57

I would never not report an incident to my insurance company. It’s what you pay insurance for and if you pay for free legal expenses on your policy you can get your excess back and possibly protect your NCD if the accident is not your fault. The insurance company won’t be happy that your son didn’t report this at the time. Why would you trust the word of a stranger who caused the accident

Tinatubby73 · 03/07/2025 20:51

Slightly different.my DH was hit from behind while stationary.she kept apologising BUT she went and told insurers she’d been hit,years ago if you rear ended someone it was always your fault but apparently not anymore.DH eventually lost his job cos of that cow

godmum56 · 03/07/2025 20:49

657904I · 03/07/2025 19:50

I think she should be ashamed but I also think a lot of this is just common sense that you seem to lack. Before I even started driving, it was drilled into me to always go through insurance, so why haven’t you taught your son that?

For most insurance policies, it is mandatory to report such issues to them so avoiding going through insurance was terrible advice from the start. You’re in a position now where she has been able to manipulate facts, which essentially anyone does when faced with potential legal action. This is why you involve your insurance from the start, they have legal counsel to fight this.

this. lesson 1 always always always go through insurance. always.

ThisTicklishFatball · 03/07/2025 20:44

Oh OP, I completely understand your frustration – the nerve of it! Your son did everything right, and now he's being manipulated into thinking it's his fault? Absolutely not.
Here’s a practical plan to tackle this (take a deep breath – you’ve got this):
Get That CCTV ASAP
Retail park CCTV might be the key. These places often store footage for a limited time (7–30 days), so act quickly. Visit in person if possible – they’re often more cooperative that way.
Bring the exact time and location of the incident.
Ask if they require a police or insurance reference number to release it.
If they won’t release it directly, request written confirmation that the footage exists so your insurer can access it.
Let Insurance Handle It
Since it’s an insurance claim now, let them take over. Avoid direct communication with her – stick to brief, polite written exchanges. Her inconsistency is a red flag and she might twist your son’s words.
Keep a Clear Record
Ensure your son documents everything:
A detailed timeline of events
Photos of the car damage
Screenshots of all messages with her
Notes from the initial call (her admission of fault is critical)
And Now… Dash Cams Are the Future
This incident highlights why dash cams are a must-have for drivers, especially newer ones without the “I’ve-seen-it-all” experience.
They’re affordable – £40–£70 for decent front + rear models.
They provide irrefutable evidence – no arguments, no memory gaps, no “he said/she said.”
Insurers often offer discounts for having one.
In cases like this, they can immediately disprove false claims.
If your son had a dash cam, this would already be resolved. It’s frustrating that we need to protect ourselves from dishonesty – but unfortunately, it’s necessary.
You’re absolutely justified in being upset – now it’s time to take action.

mumofsixfluffs · 03/07/2025 20:29

a bit late now but get him to fit a dash cam.

3luckystars · 03/07/2025 20:29

I’m a judge and so is my wife. I thought all judges have BMWs?

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LillyPJ · 03/07/2025 20:27

Over 10 years ago, a man backed into me in a supermarket car park, then drove off without stopping . Luckily, I got his numberplate and another woman who'd seen it said she'd be a witness. I reported it to the police and when they talked to the man, he denied all knowledge! However, the insurance company agreed he was entirely to blame and paid up in full. It was only a little dent in the driver's door but the bill was over £500. It didn't seem to affect my insurance premium.

16wimb · 03/07/2025 20:25

neverknowinglyunreasonable · 03/07/2025 20:11

I'm a judge and the only way your son would be at fault is if he was driving a BMW. Me and all my judge colleagues just assume people that drive those are always guilty.

‘Me and all my judge colleagues’ 🤣

Vaxtable · 03/07/2025 20:20

just go through insurance. Report it now and get your side in. Damage to your sons car will prove she reversed into it