Lily Allen ‘can’t remember’ how many abortions she’s had

I am pro choice

It doesnt change her being irresponsible to have that happen multiple times,
But mostly she wouldbe causing nhs work and possibly fertility issues.

Im not sure about now but previously even the MAP could cause fertilty issues. (Though obviously birth can too)

It wouldn’t happen post conception if people took appropriate precautions. Abortion is an acceptable alternative to failed contraception, not the failure take contraceptive measures in the first place.

So many posters who claim to be pro-choice, until someone makes a choice too many times for their liking.

How many times do they think women should be allowed to have a choice? Once? Twice?

I’m no Lilly Allen fan, and don’t claim to be pro-choice. But I’m really irritated by posters who claim to be pro choice, until they don’t like the choice.

Or how about women avail themselves of the contraceptive options available in a first world country so that abortion doesn’t become the norm if you can’t be arsed to be responsible ? Back street abortion is not an option for someone like Lily Allen so it’s irrelevant.

Have YOU read the article? I have just read it and even the misogynist shit show that is the DM isn't suggesting 11, so lord knows where you pulled that imaginary number from.

Abortion can’t be a form of contraception - it happens post conception

she didn’t want to be pregnant so she wasn’t

not seeing the need for all the angst

Is there really not room in people's minds to see that there may be circumstances where someone is unable to use other forms of contraception and would need multiple abortions? Is it really that hard to do the maths on how that could actually be necessary for some women in vulnerable places in their lives? And yet here we are in a forum that's supposed to be supportive for women, with multiple posters labeling everyone who's had multiple abortions for "non medical reasons" as feckless or disgusting. I've reported the thread, this is vile.

Listen to the podcast, the woman herself says 4 or 5.

Yes

So having what 1? 2? Abortions is okay

11 ohh bad woman shame on you etc?

she didn’t have 11 but if she’d had 111 what the hell impact does that have on anyone but her?

or do unwanted pregnancies suddenly become viable after # 4

its all pearl clutching drama because you think any terminations over ‘ insert own acceptable number’ is suddenly awful and shameful

fuck me it’s her body her choice

Read the article, that’s what’s suggested.

Nope. She had 11 if you read what was said. That’s unnecessary and suggests fecklessness. I fully support a women’s’ right to choose, but 11 times is pushing it. Abortion is not, and should never be used as a form of contraception and that’s what’s happening here.

11 abortions later you trust LA’s judgement ? OK then.

By the end of this thread, Lily Allen will have had 111 abortions, 5 minutes before the baby crowned.

She also hasn't had 11 abortions but whatever.

Don’t care what stage she had the abortion at. 11 abortions is feckless. Contraception is easily available.

So 11 abortions later it’s not her fault ? Don’t make me laugh. Abortion is not a form of contraception and should not be treated as such by the feckless and irresponsible. I’m as pro choice as they come but there’s a limit.

You are commenting on a post about third trimester abortion. LA hasn't had a third trimester abortion.

As late as necessary usually means killing a baby. I’m as pro choice as they come but there are limits.

None of which applied in Allens’ case. Only that she couldn’t be arsed taking responsibility herself or making sure her partner did.

Having contraception before having sex, knowing that she didnt want to be pregnant as a result, would have been a much more mature decision. I’m pro choice but not pro abortion used as a method of contraception for the feckless.

First few cells eh. This is the only context I've come across where a 'few' means billions or trillions.

If it saves the life of the mother, yes. If the foetus is non-viable, yes. Some babies are born with horrendous conditions and no quality of life which is crueler IMO

Yes, contraception is offered and long acting forms are strongly encouraged post termination. It is part of standard care planning. However, healthcare professionals cannot force women to use contraception effectively, or at all.

I’ve read a lot of crazy stuff over the years, but somehow “if you support abortion you might as well suffocate babies and toddlers” never ceases to shock me in its cruelty and stupidity.

A pregnancy is potential. That’s all. Whether those first few cells are a “baby” or “not a baby” is entirely subjective, depending on the emotional reaction of the woman who is pregnant. She gets to decide.