Lily Allen ‘can’t remember’ how many abortions she’s had

Abortion is meant to get women out of a bad situation. Any of us can end up in a bad situation once, twice. So it’s fine to have an abortion. But 5 times - then it starts to look like the situation is more of a choice than a combination of unfortunate circumstances.

Talk to me about these “serious repercussions” Let’s have some facts and stats.

I won’t watch it because I think she’s an attention seeker anyway.
But I think it’s wrong to say you’ve had 5 abortions and not recognise that there is some trauma associated with that. Everyone I know who had them still has complex feelings about it, especially when they went on to have other children.

So much misinformation on this thread.

If she was on the podcast crying and praying and asking for forgiveness there wouldn't be as much hate directed towards her.

It's because she's talking about her abortions without enough emotion.

God forbid that a woman access safe and legal medical procedures without the appropriate amount of guilt and shame.

Maybe they should start issuing public lashings alongside abortions, that might make the anti-choice crew happier.

@Katiesaidthat carrying a pregnancy to term has far higher risks than an abortion, especially one done before 10 weeks. That this has to be explained to fully grown women in 2025 is gobsmacking.

Healthcare is using contraception, abortion should be the last resort as it can have serious repercussions if it goes wrong, like any medical procedure can. That this has to be explained to fully grown women in 2025 is gobsmacking.

her comments also make abortion sound like it’s no big deal. It’s horrific and can have long term medical consequences. She absolutely shouldn’t have said it and I wonder whether she did it to be like Katie hopkins - getting money by saying awful stuff

I don't understand the logic of an arguement that says 1 abortion is fine but 5 is abhorrent.

If you believe it's a medical procedure and a fetus doesn't enjoy separate person hood, then surely the number shouldn't matter? You wouldn't say it's ok to murder one person but not 5 would you?

Unless it's about policing Lily Allen's sex life of course

@HairsprayBabe I know you don’t have to have counselling but it is there. It’s not offered if you buy condoms.

@crumblingschools you don't have to have counselling to access an abortion, they offer it but you can still access care without it. For many people it is an easy choice with no hand wringing or trauma, it's just healthcare.

Having 5 abortions just makes me think a woman has some big dark problems within herself to keep allowing this to happen to her body and to her mental health.

@KateMiskin a bunch of cells with a heartbeat

Oh I agree, I think she absolutely can and probably should discuss it. I was just saying that because of that I don’t think we can have a go at OP for barging into someone’s personal/private business.

Surely better to not get pregnant in the first place, abortion should be last resort. Yes better than 5 unwanted babies. 5 abortions to me would show someone is not in a great place and we should be doing things to help people to not get into that place in the first place.

There is a reason abortion counselling exists. You don’t get counselling for wearing a condom

Her parents must be so proud.......

She didn't have to, but equally if she wants to talk about her life and experiences why shouldn't she - or anyone else for that matter?

Far, far better to have these debates in public and openly, than hiding things away for shame like in the past. Breaking the stigma of around choices like this can only be a good thing.

YANBU - I don’t think there is any excuse for people to have multiple abortions. It shouldn’t be used instead of contraception.

If she didn’t want people to discuss it then she should have kept her mouth shut about it.

@Lioncub2020 there isn't contraception fails people all the time, and many have unpleasant side effects for different people.
I got pregnant on the pill and on the coil when I had my abortions. I'm currently on the implant, if I got pregnant tomorrow I would 100% have another abortion.

Is your position that both should be dragged over hot coal or that both shouldn't be?

I think while Lily may be a disturbed person (I don’t know) she has put this out there when she absolutely did not have to. I personally find her attitude and Miquita’s disgusting.

If pro choice doesn’t come with a but, then I guess I am not pro choice.

I applaud her honesty and think she's taking back the power of this information 'getting out'. SHE said it, it happens.
She's brave as I don't think her MH is great and the hate she'll probably receive is concerning.

I think a bit of it is that certain posters promote feminism above all else. Women's choices trump absolutely everything apparently. Ridiculous.

Do you keep this same energy for women who have multiple children via the NHS?