Lily Allen ‘can’t remember’ how many abortions she’s had

You’re thinking of how many martinis to have at lunch.

Then Lily Allen should have kept her big mouth shut and not announced her lack of memory of how many abortions she has had to the world during an interview. Along with some of the other shite she said.

You dont get to be pro choice but also judge how that choice is used.

Wait, this is mumsnet, home of the "your body your choice unless I dont agree with it" crew! Of course you do!

See also:

1. Surrogacy
2. Bonnie Blue / OF creators in general

If you read my post, I literally said I have fell pregnant on the pill. Hence I went on the implant to not have another unplanned pregnancy.

Realistically, what percentage of abortions occur when a woman is on the coil or implant? Of course it does happen but I can imagine it’s a very small percentage.

She was giving an interview when she said it, so it's all over the media. Even here in the USA. She and the interviewer had quite "the talk" and it was pretty disgusting and was about other things also. Not just her abortion count.

You and logic aren’t close friends, I can tell.

If a pregnancy exists, termination statistically presents a lower risk to the woman than continued gestation and birth.

As far as I'm concerned, abortion should be available to all who need and want one without restriction.

Lily Allen likes to make statements intended to shock and provoke, so I would take what she says with a pinch of salt. And I don't think unverified comments from one shock-jock style celebrity are any reason to worry about abortion policy in general. The overwhelming majority of women are not having countless numbers of abortions. If there are any who are, they should be treated compassionately, since it's highly suggestive of significant underlying difficulties.

Can I just clarify something OP? Is your issue with her being allowed to have multiple terminations or is it with her showing off about it? Because these are entirely separate debates.

You don’t have to ☺️

Absolutely the wrong message to be sending to young people! Abortion should be the LAST option if contraception fails - not THE option for contraception.

If she said this to her platform of followers - what a prick. I hate how people with no common sense are put in positions of influence

@Beeloux are you just choosing to ignore all the people who get pregnant despite using contraception?

But once you're pregnant it's too late to use contraception. So at that point the choices are abortion or birth. So why do you think 3 is the magic number? Based upon what, and for whose benefit?

To all those posters who are simply shutting down the OP and telling her to mind her own business… You do know what an anonymous Internet forum is for?

She did also talk about the fact that she is on her 3rd IUD... so she absolutely did address contraception too.

We live in a country where we are very lucky to have free access to many forms of contraception.

I used to live in a country where contraception was extremely expensive and only available if you were married. An implant would cost well over £1000.

In my opinion, there is really no excuse to have multiple abortions when we have such easy access to contraception. Like it or not some, woman see abortion as a method of contraception.

@ItsAllLogic I got pregnant on the pill and on the coil when I had my abortions. I'm currently on the implant, and we double up with condoms too.

If I got pregnant tomorrow I would 100% have another abortion.

The only way to 100% avoid pregnancy is to have no sex at all, and I'm fairly sure that no one wants that.

Gaslighting straw man argument

This.

I am similarly pro choice but there comes a time when concerns should be raised about her contraception choices (and std risk) as well as relationship concerns eg coersion into not using alternative methods of contraception/sexual abuse?

She's also a high profile young woman, some of whose fans will inevitably see this as a green light for being slack about contraception - remember in HUGE parts of the world yes America, I'm looking at you abortion is illegal so there needs to be a message about safe sex for more reasons than preventing pregnancy.

That is a totally different topic altogether.

Lily Allen is 40 years old. There is no justification for a grown woman to be unashamedly telling people she has used abortion as contraception on multiple occasions to the point of 'forgetting.'

I've always thought she was repugnant but now it's been confirmed.

@Beeloux I got pregnant on the pill, and I got pregnant on the coil, nothing is 100% and accidents happen even if you are being ultra careful.

The only way to not get pregnant is to have no sex at all and I quite like a shag, so the risk will always be there.

An abortion would have a much lower cost to the nhs than continuing the pregnancy

Abortion is meant to get women out of a bad situation. Any of us can end up in a bad situation once, twice. So it’s fine to have an abortion. But 5 times - then it starts to look like the situation is more of a choice than a combination of unfortunate circumstances.

Is it? Says who? It doesn't say that in the legislation does it? Who are you to have decided this on behalf of us all?

Also, this makes no logical sense as an argument does it- you do realise that plenty of first time abortions are entirely about choice rather than a bad situation don't you?