Lily Allen ‘can’t remember’ how many abortions she’s had

Of course she remembers, she doesn't want to state it as people will come for her whatever the number!

I agree with you, OP. Of course it’s bloody careless.
She doesn’t come across well generally though, so may court the controversy a bit.

No, that would be 'mind your own business.'

She chose to talk about it with her friend to make money from their podcast. She wasn't exactly being given the Spanish Inquisition. And if Miquita did ask the question and it was unwelcome and inappropriate, LA had the option to edit it out.

I would class myself as pro-choice, but that's because I assume people are using it in a responsible way, and it is a last resort. Not because they've got pregnant 4 times accidentally, and still don't think they should bother with contraception so go on for a fifth.

I can’t imagine Boris Johnson has had any terminations or pregnancies.

I agree. If people don’t want to discuss it, then don’t..but don’t try to control the narrative. Years ago a friend of mine was told on going for I think the third abortion that she should stop using it as birth control.

Agree with this, we are seeing women being conditioned to become unemotional vessels, detached from their bodies, their sex/sexuality and their feelings - who does that suit I wonder ?

I was disgusted when I saw the articles popping up on social media, but not at all surprised - that the gutter press jumped at the opportunity to enrage the public over a woman making choices for her own body and life.
Good on Lily and Miquita for sharing their very personal experiences so that other women might feel a little less shame around the subject. They would have known the likes of the daily fail would run wild with it.

I havent (and wont) read the article. Where they all accidental pregnancies? There are other reasons to have/need abortions.

How do men get women accidentally pregnant so many times?

Early abortion isn't more dangerous or difficult than 'popping' paracetamol is.

'I can't remember' is the correct response from someone who doesn't want to answer a question they should never have been asked in the first place.

You’ve got the wrong end of the stick there, I was commenting on people getting at the OP for starting the thread, why she cares etc etc.

You've also misquoted. I didn’t mention not knowing about the topic at all. In fact I believe I said that a thread on this topic has been started on the feminism board and that there hadn’t been a fuss in that thread about the OP inviting a conversation on the subject.

I was referring to not knowing about the ‘LA issue’. Paid no attention to any of the posts that were specifically about LA.

So er … not crazy stuff at all really.

Amazing how many people are pro choice- unless someone makes a choice that they wouldn’t make themselves. Posters on all abortion threads always say ‘I’m pro choice, but….’.

I know, it’s bizarre. The podcast numbers were getting low in recent weeks, if Lily says something controversial, - like a few months ago when she announced she had rehoused their puppy after he chewed up their passports. She knows that The Daily Mail and other outlets and forums will pick up on it, cover it in the sidebar of shame and hey presto, the podcast numbers can double, almost triple,
Therefore she has said something controversial, to boost the podcast, which is doing well and giving her quite a bit of relevance again,- so everyone is a winner.

Only on Mumsnet they seem to think people have been reading her diary or some bullshit. Or they are pretending to, in order to admonish the OP, and/or use the cringe-worthy term ‘Daily Fail’, in order to try and make themselves look superior.

Disgusting when people like Allen are using it as s form of contraceptive.
How does an adult woman "accidentally" get pregnant 5 times?

@TwigletsandRadishes, so, you're not a big Lilly Allen fan there, huh?

So pro-choice but with added judgement when it doesn't suit you? And wth are you reading the Mail? Ewwww to all of this

A whore? Careful there, your misogyny is showing.

Fewer than Boris Johnson?

We do have birth control these days you know. You'd think that as someone who has lost a much wanted baby to stillbirth, she'd treat multiple, sloppy, unwanted conceptions and subsequent multiple terminations as something akin to popping a paracetamol for an annoying headache.

I often pop on the Mail website because I find it interesting to see how they report on major news stories and I like to read widely about current affairs. The spin they put on things is mind boggling at times and the comments section can make Facebook and it's little cousin NextDoor look like places of nuanced debate. The current heatwave is a case in point, according to Mail readers is just an "ordinary summer" and there is no such thing as global warming, scientiists are "woke lefties" and climate change actitvists deliberatly set wild fires. Being permanently outraged and seeing conspiracies everywhere must be so tiring.

I do agree that things like LA being so flippant about it is really undermining the seriousness of it. Maybe it is removing the shame as well though?

Even if it is the "right" decision (whatever that means) for many women it is difficult and can be traumatising.

It isnt like getting a cyst removed. Yes, you might be able to pop some pills, have a big period and that it is physically sorted but its not just about the physical aspect. For women who have a medical abortion, there is also the practical healing side and the associated risks.

Either way, I imagine a lot of women find it upsetting and difficult and feel guilt (even if they shouldnt).

"I had like, sooooo many abortions. What am I like? Saved messing about with condoms though. What fun!" does not portray the seriousness of the decision.

meh

her body, her choice

Lily Allen herself doesn't seem to mind turning it into something to laugh and joke about on her podcast with Miquita Oliver. The pair of them actually laughed about it which I think is in extremely poor taste, but I'd expect nothing less from LA, who is a tedious attention whore and does whatever she can to shock.

I am fiercely pro-choice but I find this distasteful in the extreme. Abortion is not to be used repeatedly in place of contraception. At least not when you are a privileged brat like Lily Allen. Some disadvantaged and abused women may have no choice. She isn't one of them.

To say she can't remember how many is disgusting. She's either had far too many or she's just lying for the shock value. Neither is anything to be proud of.