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Lily Allen ‘can’t remember’ how many abortions she’s had

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blossoming56 · 03/07/2025 08:05

Article in the Fail today about this.
I am pro choice but it did make me a bit uncomfortable. After a while a string of abortions - too many to remember - would surely leave its mark physically and emotionally not mention the cost on the NHS.
Everyone should have a choice but is there not an element of personal responsibility to just take precautions after the first few times?!

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Itchytoe · 03/07/2025 08:15

And so you thought

Let’s have a good natter about it on AIBU

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She spoke about it on her podcast. And what, now no one is meant to every speak about it again? Get a grip.

KateMiskin · 03/07/2025 16:36

Oh good JD Vance is here.

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BlueJuniper94 · 03/07/2025 16:35

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"There is no ground to equate the murder of children to the ending of a pregnancy"

I was replying to this, but its quite clear that the arguments here are incredibly disingenuous, which exposes the fundamental weaknesses of your position.

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blackbirdevensong · 03/07/2025 16:34

TwinsTrollsAndHunz · 03/07/2025 16:03

I've just seen this, interesting take. Have you seen how much healthcare is delivered as a result of non-communicable diseases and conditions that have mostly modifiable risk factors (aka "lifestyle")?

Is insulin for T2 diabetes not healthcare? Are inhalers for COPD not healthcare?
Are surgeries, chemotherapy, immunotherapy and radiotherapies for skin cancers not healthcare?
Are anticoagulants in stroke and heart disease not healthcare?
If you break your femur skiing and have it pinned back together, is that not healthcare?

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I get your points. Yes, that is all healthcare.

However, if you keep smoking whilst suffering with COPD or lung cancer, or keep eating terribly and don't look after your health when suffering with T2 diabetes, then yes, those are also terrible lifestyle choices. If you damage your liver because of excessive drinking, get a transplant (which is hard enough to do without quitting completely), then relapse? That's also a terrible lifestyle choice. It's harmful to you and to those around you.

Quite frankly, all of the above deserve judgement.

ghostyslovesheets · 03/07/2025 16:34

@Lilyallens48thab0rtion why is the cat sneezing so much - there’s snot all over the floor

ghostyslovesheets · 03/07/2025 16:33

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Ffs calling me baby doesn’t make me an actual baby - ask the cat

also busy Friday

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Birth

UsernameMcUsername · 03/07/2025 16:31

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Too late it would have to be euthanasia - a mercy killing

ghostyslovesheets · 03/07/2025 16:30

UsernameMcUsername · 03/07/2025 16:29

Oh to be a fly on the wall when you do the "sorry about your zygote" thing to a friend who has just miscarried 😂

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I’ve had 5 miscarriages

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ghostyslovesheets · 03/07/2025 16:27

Pre cancerous cells on your cervix have the potential to be cancer but they aren’t cancer

zygotes have the potential to be born and become babies but they aren’t babies

Oh to be a fly on the wall when you do the "sorry about your zygote" thing to a friend who has just miscarried 😂

BlueJuniper94 · 03/07/2025 16:28

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Newborns aren't children.

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ghostyslovesheets · 03/07/2025 16:27

BlueJuniper94 · 03/07/2025 16:26

Why don't you tell us why?

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Honestly will you hurry up and get to your point I’m losing the will to live

UsernameMcUsername · 03/07/2025 16:27

ghostyslovesheets · 03/07/2025 16:22

Calling something a baby doesn’t make it a baby

I call my cat baby but I’m not enrolling him reception this year

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Sigh. There's really not much worth saying to someone childish enough to invoke their relationship with their cat in a discussion on abortion (tangent you call it 'baby'????? OK??)

ghostyslovesheets · 03/07/2025 16:27

Pre cancerous cells on your cervix have the potential to be cancer but they aren’t cancer

zygotes have the potential to be born and become babies but they aren’t babies

BlueJuniper94 · 03/07/2025 16:26

TwinsTrollsAndHunz · 03/07/2025 16:13

The newborn baby vs in utero isn't the 'gotcha' you think it is, @BlueJuniper94

Why don't you tell us why?

ClaireEclair · 03/07/2025 16:25

Itchytoe · 03/07/2025 08:11

On what planet would you think something like this is reasonable to have an AIBU natter about it.

you didn’t need to mention her name.

This is someone’s life.

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She and Miquita Oliver discuss it in depth on their podcast. They are incredibly dismissive about it and Miquita claims she also had 5 abortions.

BlueJuniper94 · 03/07/2025 16:25

ghostyslovesheets · 03/07/2025 16:11

Duh obviously but that’s not what abortion is

one is murdering a living autonomous being

the other is a living autonomous being choosing not to be pregnant

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Duh indeed.