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Rachel Reeves crying in the House of Commons

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IdaGlossop · 02/07/2025 17:50

AIBU to think it's possible to feel sympathy for Rachel Reeves for being visibly upset at Prime Minister's Question Time today, even if you revile Labour and its policies?

Lots of misogyny on Twitter - the UK is a laughing stock because of the behaviour of menopausal women in the Commons (including an example of Stella Creasy with her baby in a sling asleep and another of Angela Rayner flashing); women can't hack it etc etc.

I can only imagine it must feel dreadful to know the world has watched you in distress and that the financial markets have reacted because of fears of government instability. The phrase 'bring your whole self to work' is a piece of HR speak I can't abide but what we saw today was Rachel Reeves doing just that. Despite my sympathy for her, it would have been better all round for the upset part of her to have stayed in her Downing Street flat.

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Goldenbear · 02/07/2025 19:44

Goldenbear · 02/07/2025 19:42

Who has set up there narratives of weak women and their emotions and if you are a woman why are you reinforcing them?

These not "there"

EasternStandard · 02/07/2025 19:43

ilovesooty · 02/07/2025 19:42

Evidently the first thread full of utterly foul comments wasn't enough for some posters.

You can always hide threads.

ilovesooty · 02/07/2025 19:42

Evidently the first thread full of utterly foul comments wasn't enough for some posters.

Goldenbear · 02/07/2025 19:42

wildflowersdontcarewheretheygrow · 02/07/2025 19:33

This
And women full stop. Plays into us 'being emotional' whereas men are called passionate.
If it had been a male politician crying what would have been said.

Who has set up there narratives of weak women and their emotions and if you are a woman why are you reinforcing them?

Hertsmum78 · 02/07/2025 19:41

Personally I feel sympathy for her, but she has to resign. You can’t cry on the front bench, male or female, you just can’t. Particularly not the chancellor or the PM. Her literal job is to inspire confidence.

i have a senior leadership position at work and I don’t believe it would be appropriate for me to cry in front of my team. That’s not to say I’m confident it will never happen - maybe it will - but if it ever does it will be a serious fuck up. (And me crying doesn’t have the power to influence the markets!)

ddbb · 02/07/2025 19:40

sciaticafanatica · 02/07/2025 19:34

She has made poor decisions and not given a shit.
she can cry me a river!

This. She’s hurt people a lot.

Sidebeforeself · 02/07/2025 19:40

TheignT · 02/07/2025 19:38

Might be nice if Matt Hancock cried about the old people who died following his COVID decisions.

Remember when he cried when the first Covid jab was given? Nobody believed him.

ddbb · 02/07/2025 19:40

She’s caused that exact state of tears to others. I know someone who works at a private school. A few staff have been made redundant (VAT/NI) and were crying in school. The person I know hasn’t been made redundant, but has had to sign a new contract agreeing to more hours (was already more than full time). All due to Rachel Reeves and her VAT/NI bashing of that sector. When we literally see people we know with job losses in tears, I don’t know why we would be expected to feel sorry for RR. Even if she gets kicked out of the cabinet, she’ll still be an MP and have a job - unlike the teachers who were just told that they’ll have to fuck off as the school has no money to pay them with.

LakieLady · 02/07/2025 19:39

RefreshingMist · 02/07/2025 18:01

I don't get how she faces such condemnation for being a human yet people like Boris can sleep around with impunity.

It's vanishingly rare for me to say anything good about Johnson, but his sleeping around didn't risk casting thousands of vulnerable people into poverty.

EasternStandard · 02/07/2025 19:39

Fringle · 02/07/2025 19:37

I also feel sorry for RR. Difficult stuff to watch. Even without knowing if there’s anything purely personal in the background.

But, if there isn’t any personal issue, and a barney with the Speaker isn’t a ‘personal issue’, then I’m afraid that a need for thick skin comes with the very powerful, very high profile job she’s in. In those circumstances criticism of her lack of resilience is nothing to do with misogyny.

I suspect we’ll find out that Starmer has kicked the confidence and spirit out of her. He’s so appallingly ambitious and yet so woefully talentless it’s horrible to see.

Yes agree on Starmer. Plus he’s so awful to women, see PMQs

TheignT · 02/07/2025 19:38

wildflowersdontcarewheretheygrow · 02/07/2025 19:33

This
And women full stop. Plays into us 'being emotional' whereas men are called passionate.
If it had been a male politician crying what would have been said.

Might be nice if Matt Hancock cried about the old people who died following his COVID decisions.

HelplessSoul · 02/07/2025 19:38

RR crying?

Big deal, boo hoo..... She's a serial liar - lied on her CV, lied about her jobs, lied about her work history and hasnt a clue how the economy works. And now its all coming undone - on HER watch. Incompetence in full display for all to see.

Quicker she is sacked off the better. Not that any replacement would be an improvement.

Out of her depth, out of tricks and out of time. Like all politicians, she can get to fuck.

Fringle · 02/07/2025 19:37

I also feel sorry for RR. Difficult stuff to watch. Even without knowing if there’s anything purely personal in the background.

But, if there isn’t any personal issue, and a barney with the Speaker isn’t a ‘personal issue’, then I’m afraid that a need for thick skin comes with the very powerful, very high profile job she’s in. In those circumstances criticism of her lack of resilience is nothing to do with misogyny.

I suspect we’ll find out that Starmer has kicked the confidence and spirit out of her. He’s so appallingly ambitious and yet so woefully talentless it’s horrible to see.

Bluebellwood129 · 02/07/2025 19:36

pizzaHeart · 02/07/2025 18:36

Call me naive but it might be something private on top of everything and her argument with Speaker was just the last straw.
Of course she’s grown up and at the top job and should have controlled herself but it might be one and only time in her life when she couldn’t.

Last week, we had a PM who by his own admission was 'too distracted' to focus on the welfare bill and we now have a chancellor who is clearly unable to perform adequately in the job. That's hugely concerning.

HorsesDuvets · 02/07/2025 19:35

Abhannmor · 02/07/2025 19:00

You want PIP but not to have to pay for it. Sweet tap dancing Jesus on a hoverboard.

Absolutely agree.

sciaticafanatica · 02/07/2025 19:34

She has made poor decisions and not given a shit.
she can cry me a river!

Yuja · 02/07/2025 19:34

EasternStandard · 02/07/2025 19:30

It’s more likely her own party causing upset.

Maybe. Doesn’t matter though does it- something has pushed her to such a state of stress and anxiety that she has cried on a public stage, and that is a horrible thing to happen to anyone. Impossible to do her job well - she’s damned if she does and damned if she doesn’t on any decisions. People being glad she cried or glad she is upset - it’s beyond my comprehension.

wildflowersdontcarewheretheygrow · 02/07/2025 19:33

Namechangetry · 02/07/2025 18:44

She's making women in positions of power look like they can't hack it. I'm sorry I know if you're a minority you shouldn't be held up as an example of everyone in that minority but we all know that you will be. She should have claimed illness or family emergency if she couldn't keep it together.

This
And women full stop. Plays into us 'being emotional' whereas men are called passionate.
If it had been a male politician crying what would have been said.

doodleschnoodle · 02/07/2025 19:32

I’ve cried at work before: if I am angry or frustrated about something then it comes out as tears. I can’t really help or control it but I do stay rational etc., it’s just a physical response And there is a suggestion that an argument with the Speaker prior was to blame, so who knows. Another report says it’s a personal matter.

Should she have just not showed up for work? I think it’s pretty brave to sit there knowing that you’re about to have a zillion horrible headlines written about you, regardless of what you think about her decisions or politics. Can’t have been a nice day at work for her.

dottiedodah · 02/07/2025 19:32

I think she is her own worst enemy. She magnified her record of working in the bank .Struggled to read the room when WFA was taken away and it has been a shitshow TBH.She should resign ASAP.A decent Accountant from Surrey could have done better. Being upset is hard for her .it would have been better to have had a day off.today

allamberedover · 02/07/2025 19:31

Crying does not mean you can’t make rational decisions.Crying simply means your emotions are showing.
This times 1000

EasternStandard · 02/07/2025 19:30

Yuja · 02/07/2025 19:28

I feel very sorry for her to be honest. I find people have been vile on social media. Perhaps she should have found a reason not to go rather than become emotional at that point, but it can happen to anyone under pressure.

It’s more likely her own party causing upset.

NeedAnyHelpWithThatPaperBag · 02/07/2025 19:29

As long as she's not one of those people that can dish it out, but can't take it, I'm sympathetic. PM's questions plays out like a pointless weekly pantomime serving mainly to keep political media types in jobs, anyway.

Yuja · 02/07/2025 19:28

I feel very sorry for her to be honest. I find people have been vile on social media. Perhaps she should have found a reason not to go rather than become emotional at that point, but it can happen to anyone under pressure.

Loadsapandas · 02/07/2025 19:24

I cannot help but think of a dignified Diane Abbott standing and being ignored 40 times in that chamber listening to people discussing a death threat against her.

I don’t remember this outpouring of sympathy for that.

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