Rachel Reeves crying in the House of Commons

Yeah, herself.

I thought Cameron’s son was called Ivan. And he was an absolute hypocrite about the NHS.

It’s makes you foolish for attacking Kemi Badenoch and not acknowledging Labour’s scurrilous attacks on Tories.

If you want some examples…Rishi Sunak’s wife; Samantha Cameron’s distress after the the death of her son and attacks on the Cameron’s treatment of the NHS while using it for Arthur’s treatment; Thatcher in just about all personal respects.

Just two years ago David Blunkett decried Labour’s descent into “gutter politics”.

I seem to be in a tiny minority here but I’d much rather an MP who shows natural human emotions than the usual obnoxious twats we get. She clearly cares deeply about something - whether it’s a personal problem, her own job or the country’s economy. At least it shows she’s able to care about something.

Why when it’s so bad at work. Look at the votes the night before, a total mess.

Agree with pp on Starmer’s accountability,

I believe it’s a genuine personal issue, not related to the job. You can’t pause the rest of your life because of your job.

Exactly. KS is the primer minister and ultimately what the government does with the money available is his decision.

I don’t agree. She’s been treated with total contempt by her colleagues across the board. I don’t think she should be crying in the Commons. I can understand it, but seriously, she is done.

Thatcher cried when she had to leave. The press were full of it.

I have the utmost empathy for anyone that is feeling that distressed.

the smarter choice would have been not to appear in the Commons today when she’s clearly going to get the boot.

But here is the rub. She is the Chancellor of the Exchequer. The country is is in the shitter.

Im trying, and failing, to imagine how one of the most senior politicians in any country can sit and sob on the floor of Parliament for anything that isn’t a National disaster, by which I mean loss of life catastrophe.

bad day at the office Rachel. Pull it together or resign.

She’s incompetent and needs to go - so does KS.

It’s frankly embarrassing.

What the world needs right now is good old fashioned unemotional competence and integrity.

Why is that so fucking hard for any of these politicians?

Yes, but the fact that low down politics, corruptions, personal attacks and worse has existed for as long as there’s been public debate doesn’t make me foolish for saying it’s time to see some humanity and decency.

I can only think of two. Johnson’s adamant refusal to confirm how many children he’s got and the censure of Hancock when his affair was discovered.

Absolutely spot on.

Because attacks on Tories for their family or personal circumstances have been legion.

It would have been the same whatever she’d done. She was in a complete lose/lose situation.

Because exposure and criticism of personal weakness and failing has been a part of political exchange for centuries.

Daniel Jupp - "Apparently I’m supposed to feel sorry because the Chancellor who lied about her qualifications and experience her whole career and who is part of a government that puts innocent people in prison for telling the truth while fucking the economy, the country and their own people as brutally as they can…..cried in the Commons.

If I was there at the time I’d probably be more sympathetic. It takes a monster to actually be there when a woman is crying and be completely heartless about it.

But at the same time in this context I despise the emotional blackmail of how this story is being presented.

Show some empathy….isn’t this woman fine with two tier policing, with driving a grandfather to kill himself because he called her government corrupt, with banging up a mother with a young daughter and an ill husband for a tweet that wasn’t literal?

Isn’t she fine with a few thousand grannies dying early in the winter months? How did she vote on grooming gang enquiries? What empathy has she ever shown for young girls who were gang raped, primarily in Labour areas by Labour voters and covered up by Labour politicians for years.

If you are a senior Labour politician, male or female, you have been betraying your country, laughing at the suffering of patriots and decent people, and enthusiastically supporting policies that inflict real misery and suffering on ordinary people, as well as robbing them blind in the process.

This is a grossly incompetent Chancellor who has also delivered budgets of pure Marxist malice, targeting farmers for instance with taxes that will generate very little revenue but still devastate farming families and communities, all out of a combination of spite at them for being white or Tory, and corrupt eagerness to hand the stolen land over to BlackRock and shitty solar farms and housing for migrants.

So yes, it’s hard to find sympathy for her after that.
I’m not coming to this from a ‘toughen up lass’ stance either. I never ever back down politically but I have broken down a couple of times in my life, one of which was in a workplace environment. I was pretty easy to break for awhile after my dad died, and numb when my mum did, and in both instances other things got to me much more than they did before those losses.

Sometimes the thing that makes people cry, isn’t the thing that looks like it’s just made them cry.

This is the first time I’ve seen Reeves cry, and it’s true that no man should delight in it. I don’t. But I’m pretty sure she was only crying for herself and I’m half sure she wouldn’t be capable of crying for anyone else. Certainly not for any of us.

And yes, knowing what she has supported does make a difference. I’m sorry, but not sorry, because it does.
There is suffering that matters a lot more then hers, and that suffering was at least partly caused by her".

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Of course Labour have used attacks, online, from supporters too, and in politics.

As endless as why she was very clearly crying in PMQs? I don't think so.

Why are you talking centuries ago?

In what way, @Fringle ?

No. The line was crossed centuries ago. And Labour did worse many, many times.

But she didn't act independently with Starmer having no knowledge did she?