Rachel Reeves crying in the House of Commons

Actually I’ve had both teachers and medical staff shed a tear in my presence occasionally, and a lawyer, and a social worker. All appropriate and actually quite touching given the reasons for their emotions.

I have never said that was acceptable.

Well in fairness he was also caught lying at work, to the queen no less. If only he’d shed a tear in the Commons…

Caught lying at work about work, no.

Think of all the working people you have encountered in your life. How many have cried in front you when you were their client?
I don’t mean crying with a colleague but in a client facing role.
How many may have had affairs, questionable morals (I don’t mean illegal or unethical practices) - you would have no idea because it is not relevant.

So did i get thet right.... ?

Showing emotion at work = no no no

Consistent cheating and dishonesty in every relationship in your personal life, been caught lying several times at work = nothing to see here, crack on with the top job Boris

Sure if you want to think of it that way 🙄.
Comments like this are a backwards step for feminism.

It wouldn’t matter if a woman was shagging around either. Or a male politician crying in the Commons. Or male or female politician swearing and ranting - whatever way they display their behaviour due to personal issues.

Reeves let herself down in the workplace… in the HoC where she was in full view of the worlds press as our Chancellor.

Not the same as shagging around in your time off.

So a woman showing human emotion at work utterly undermines her professional reputation but a man showing a complete lack of integrity and responsibility doesn’t.

Unfortunately, crying publicly at work impacts your work - staff cannot cry in front of patients, clients, customers. And in this case it impacted the markets, as she is the treasurer for this country.

Sleeping around and having multiple children with multiple women does not whether you are doctor, solicitor, teacher, waiter, pilot, politician etc, (provided you get enough sleep between all the shagging, of course)

Boris has a posh voice and a penis. It's an untouchable combination.

As much as I have no sympathy for Reeves I agree Badenoch was out of order. She’s there to challenge their politics, not make personal remarks.

They all behave like children in the HoC. No professionalism or personal integrity. They make me cringe.

This is how I feel about it too

How do you know what personal issues she has?

Was that when it was hard to tell if he was crying or trying to hide that he was laughing?

The HoC is a bear pit - often a very unpleasant one. It would have been peculiar for Badenoch not to bring it up - she is there to oppose the government.

It isn’t as though crying in the HoC is something that had no consequences.

The thing is, everyone knew Boris was a shit. He threw a bunch of people under the bus when it suited him.

Starmer is just as bad, only for some reason
people didn’t expect it.

I don't feel sorry for her.
And I don't buy this ' it's a personal issue ' either
If it's a family problem then she should have stayed out of the commens

She should get on with her job without her private problems getting in the way. If she can’t separate private and professional life then she should step down or take leave from her post. Imagine if a surgeon was blubbering, or a train driver etc If she’s not fit for work then she should get a doctor’s note and have time off.

To add, I am not convinced her upset is related to politics - it’s such a tough game and they berate and shut each other down constantly. Any perceived weakness is exploited, so I find it hard to imagine she is crying about this u-turn or that her answers were too long.

If it is personal, then I do feel sorry for her but I still think of the personal stories I have read and heard about people crying with worry about their loss of WFA and PIP and the sympathy wanes a little.

Neither Reeves, Starmer, Kendal or their advisors have the required skills to successfully carry out their roles.

As you said getting all ‘A’ at Oxford in Economics isn’t necessary in their roles. They need strong leadership skills which none of them have.

They need a strategy and vision, and to be able to clearly communicate a narrative aligned to their vision. They just do ‘random stuff’. None of it seems to be for any overriding purpose so their own backbenchers and wider country are confused as to why they’ve chosen a particular action.

Who is setting strategy? Who is in charge of communications? Who is advising?

She didn't cry throughout. She looked as though she had been crying and she looked as though she was desperately trying not to cry.
I think it's possible to see one tear.
She didn't sit there blubbing.
I presume she was very upset and had to decide whether she should not appear or whether she could hold it together.
It's ridiculous to compare it to a work situation where you could just excuse yourself and leave the room.

I think that's more disturbing.

Classic MN reading comprehension.
I did not say it didn’t to be done in some way. I said she and her colleagues lacked complete empathy in the way they did it.
I don’t need to tell you where I would make reductions because that’s not my job.
However, they have since managed to find a way of reducing spend on WFA without affecting those just above the pension credit level.

This has been done with a complete lack of empathy or forethought. Silly sound bites such as not taxing working people and then raising employer contribution NI - are people who run business not working people? And how could they possibly think it could not affect working people?
The spiteful rhetoric around private schools and their gilded paper, as if the pupils are not real children and their parents are not working tax payers.

They have been smug and unempathetic throughout.
Unfortunately, RR has come across as unprofessional- if it is a personal she should have excused herself from the commons. You don’t sit at a work meeting crying throughout.

This is all lovely but life, especially in a high stakes role like the one she does, simply doesnt work that way.

High office demands a thick skin and nerves of steel, an unshakeable presence that says no matter how catastrophic the backdrop, I will get the job done.

Rachel Reeves is shaken, almost broken, that much was painfully clear and on a human level i empathise deeply - but therefore confidence in her ability to oversee the country's economy, and also the economy itself - is shaken. That is bad.

💫BrInG YoUr AuThEnTiC sElF💫 just
Does. Not. Work. Here.

Will she be too late for this years I’m a celeb?