Two Tier’s days are numbered

No, it's not the actual names. People can call names if they wish, it's a bit silly, but harmless.

It's the relentless use of them, almost as though the user is trying to give us an ear worm and the pattern of their use. It indicates a kind of instruction manual to use the phrases rather than the product of individual thought amongst a disparate group of people.

No it really is relentlessly repetitive and similar patterns.

I think the nicknames for the current dire crop of Labour politicians are being objected to so frequently because they have a real element of truth to them. More so than usual.

eg "Rachel from Accounts" told blatant lies to get her the Chancellor gig and wasn't quite as experienced as she claimed, and"Two Tier Keir's".varied approaches to people depending on their politics/skin colour/sector of the economy they work in. Nicknames all a little too close to the bone..

You don't know who I vote for.
Of course I notice it but not with such relentless repetition or in the same easy to follow patterns.

Didn’t say the playground was confined to one side or the other! Just a sign of limited thought. What people do is surely more important than a silly nickname

Do Labour posters not notice the same for non Labour politicians on mn?

Standard political ops - if you label your opponents then people are less likely to look at what they actually do and stop at a nickname. The politics of the playground

I really think you should too.

Labour posters do the same with other politicians and lines though. Maybe you don’t notice as it’s who you vote for.

I really think you should change your schtick. Not everyone who doesn’t want a Tory or Reform government is a Labour voter.

The thing is people make connections and constant repetition of phrases like Two Tier Keir and Rachel from Accounts really does make it seem like there's a hymn sheet. I've just read the comments on the DM story about Rachel Reeves today and the same phrases come out time and again.

Do people who don't rate Labour really talk in this kind of code? Or is someone trotting out catchy phrases?

So true re Labour thinking only their posts are genuine. It just shows how much the site has been Labour.

I'm absolutely not defending Reform but blimey @Fringle, if you don't like Reform you're going to hate the Conservatives.

Beer-bellied football fans - Boris Johnson
and closet racists - "The Conservative Party's first Muslim chairperson has said it is now known as "the institutionally xenophobic and racist party", not "the nasty party".

Okay, and 20 years ago I would have agreed the Tories were a clever political party. But now? Haven’t they lost a lot of the talent they had?

Apologies. Most councils have always offered secure tenancies, after an introductory period. Westminster is returning to that model, because their flexible tenancies didn’t free up properties as they’d hoped.

Oh god. Why is left-wing opinion on MN supposed to be genuine but other opinion must come from a Siberian bot farm?

TBH I find the incessant support of Labour far more suspicious of orchestration than the opposing comment.

Just to be clear, I think Reform are a bunch of angry shopkeepers, cabbies, beer-bellied football fans and closet racists. Because they have no class or intellect they should be nowhere near power. That should be left to the Tories.

Can you show which post you mean, give an example

Hang on. Are you saying that posts on mumsnet have a "profound effect on the views of others "? By "others" do you mean gullible people that can't spot a troll. Not like wily people like you obviously.

I seriously doubt it.

Definitely a whole of trolls/bots on here! Presumably funded by Elon M!!

Well, looking at the.polls it's not looking like the majority of the population think Labour are doing a good job, that Keir is doing a good job or that they will be voting for Labour at all!

Obviously as you have already said though, four years is a decent amount of time for things to change. Look at Labour after 2019 election when everyone was saying it was finished. Conservatives are now the ones being written off. I hope they aren't for the sake of the country.

That's a bit excitable.
Only certain parts of the population think Labour have failed the country. Many others are more balanced and patient and don't expect immediate miracles. Still it's immaterial. The country voted them in preference to all the alternatives and now they are in power until 2029.

Great. That's a disaster given that both Conservative and Labour have failed the country so badly.

Reform don't seem to be achieving much in their constituencies though and there seems to be a lot of infighting and power struggles. Farage did nothing when he was an MEP to instill confidence either. Based on performance to date they're not exactly looking like that alternative.

We get the government we deserve. Every Prime Minister is characterised as useless by people like the OP. Everybody wants more spending, less tax, more rights, less responsibility. On here we have lots of threads about how people can’t bear to go into the office, am I entitled to more holiday, I’ve got a grievance etc. This isn’t a serious country and we better get used to the consequences.

It would be good to have some sort of viable alternative to Conservative and Labour that's for sure.