Two Tier’s days are numbered

Reform funded fairy stories.

I suppose you're right. It' more of a personal wish than a pragmatic policy.

Everyone wants the fucking boats stopped. The uni party just have no guts to actually do anything.

Moot point. Why does anyone think Starmer will be standing down? There's absolutely nothing to suggest that will happen.

I guess we can expect a lot of Reform bots and shills to pop up in the aftermath of yesterday's vote. Reform is currently riding high in the polls and in a couple of years they'll be back to irrelevance. You bet they want it to be the case that Starmer falls and there's a GE! Fairy stories.

So you don't believe anybody can have a different opinion to you. Yes, sounds about right.

You've nailed it. They got into government by accident. Nobody envisaged the Tory implosion 5 years ago when Labour were on their knees after the Corbyn years. They were even losing Hartlepool to the Tories in 2021 in a by election.

There was never any enthusiasm for Rachel from accounts, or two tier Keir and the rest of the rabble.

So The Tories were in for 14 years of austerity and we ended up with 900,000 immigrants in the final year, no solution to boats, benefit unsystsinable (I think a lot of people don’t know what that means - it is that we have NO money to pay them so many will be starving and homeless , ie on the streets), schools are underfunded, NHS on its knees. Sooooo
Labour get in, try to cut benefits, 9 out of 10 claimants would have been unaffected, cut payments to boomers with cut in wfa, but no not having it, try to devise ways of stopping boats -but the electorate won’t have it so all these money saving plans FAIL so we continue on our merry way to bankruptcy, failed NHS, striking public servants etc
Companies are moving to the New York stock exchange, CEOs are moving to NYork, young people are off to Dubai and Australia.
When will the electorate open their greedy mitts and accept we need cuts.??????

I see that Chris Mason is now trolling the mumsnet boards. Nice try, Chris. They're still nowhere near as bad as the past 14 years, however much you try to spin it.

They are not.

I remember when people complaining about the Tories were called hysterical, shrill and full of hyperbole. The pasting remain voters got for being Remoaners and 'Get over it'.

Now the shoe's on the other foot and the wall of hysteria is at a whole new level.

I'm incredibly disappointed in this government. I voted for a Labour government, this isn't that. They're more focus on Daily Mail clicks and trying to show they can be 'Tory' when it's about business (despite the fact they fucked the economy).

I wanted bold, strong and people focused leadership and I got a shower of shit.

Any intimation of returning to the EU would be gleefully seized by Reform. Would not be a smart thing to say, or frankly do, right now.

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In which case he should call a general election instead of resigning. We need a Canadian style requirements for a new general election if the PM changes, as they lead the strategic vision for the country. Change the PM and we no longer have what was voted for.

Good for you. 🍪

I voted Labour.
I'm pretty happy actually with how they are doing. One rebellion against a controversial piece of legislation should not topple a Leader. It was a very truthful reaction by many MP's.
They have fulfilled the majority of their election promises.
I'd vote Labour again if there was an election next week.
There's a climate crisis in case you haven't noticed. If Exxon leave because the situation in the UK is less favourable to a fossil fuel producer, that's an economic loss but hard choices need to be taken. The Govt are making investments in cleaner energy which is better for everyone longer term.

Not just two tier Keir. Labour's days are numbered. They have to go.

Yes, to give him his due, Starmer is a credible figure on the world stage. I'd like him to be a bit more positive about the EU (i.e. some intimation that rejoining might one day be a possibility would be nice) but compared to the absolutely cringe-making lack of knowledge or professionalism seem by members of the last government, he's doing well.

And I'm not a Starmer fan at all.

There’ll likely be fewer people fooled into voting Labour at next GE.

Sorry?

Do we want the UK to be a place where our children can thrive and reap the rewards of their education? Currently the NHS doesn't help the people who train here to get jobs (threads on both nurses and doctors)

Business can't thrive with the extra burden on taxes and energy bills.
Housing is being squeezed from all sides. Landlord rules tightened again meaning fewer rentals.
Mass migration has been continual and puts pressures on the things ordinary people need.

Probably. She only voted Labour as I remember because she thought the Tories were taxing her too much. We know that Reform are offering the moon on a stick regarding taxation.

They're digging us in to a bigger hole! That's the whole trouble!

Whilst I’m not saying Labour are perfect, some of this makes me despair.

The economy is turning. They’re digging us out of the huge black hole the Tories created. There might have been a few slight false steps but it’s nothing like what we’ve come away from.

And they’re doing the most important thing which is mending our relationships with our friends and allies. This has actually been an extraordinary feat in such a short time. It may not be enough- we really need to be back in the EU or at least the single market - but they’ve done well.

On top of this, there’s no credible alternative. The Tories have completely lost their way, Lib Dems won’t get anyone’s vote, Reform are not only a shower of shite who can’t govern (see local councils) but they’re up to their eyes in russian money. At the moment, it’s Keir or Putin (to be blunt).

That was it! Snouts. Of course! I knew there was something wrong with that sentence...just couldn't remember what. Peri-m brain.

Surely you mean snouts?