Two Tier’s days are numbered

Agreed.

We gave the Tories 14 years and they damaged the country from which it’s unlikely to recover for decades.
Who would you prefer - Reform

@40YearOldDad interesting about the 1905 Aliens Act, I didn’t know that.

So the left are conspiring and kicking off against him.

Which is what everyone other than the Labour supporters said would happen.

The problem is that a left wing agenda normally requires a massive amount of state spending. But the state can't borrow money. And the right of Labour don't want to tax because it will make them too unpopular and lose the next election.

So they are stuck between a rock and a hard place. It will be this struggle, reining in spending against a backdrop of left wing complaints that will define politics over the next few years.

Starmer finished ? I don't think so. But it's more than a flesh wound.

Kier is in for five years. I do not think it is unlikely he will go over this period. However, on current form he will not get a second term and there is IMV a series risk that we finish up with reform.

I couldn’t care less for reform but you can literally see boat loads of people washing up, if you care to take a walk along any coast line in Kent. Or do you believe you are being lied to every evening on the news? Asssuming you find live anywhere near here. Do you suppose they are simple lies?

@Quirkswork

"We therefore need to leave the ECHR if it cannot reform or reflect the world as it is today."

The world today is more conflict ridden than the world after WW2.

Why do you think protecting human rights is less important now than it was then?

The Indian deal you are right

The US deal is not the trade deal that Boris tried and failed to deliver. It’s the deal Starmer made mitigating the extra tariffs that Trump pulled out of a hat with no notice. The UK now has a better trading position vs the US than the EU and many other countries.

Most legal migrants don't even come in on work visas

I disagree strongly with this @Shambles123 because however well the Tories are doing in government they always infight and self distruct.
Rishi Hunt and Cameron would have been hounded out by their own disgruntled party for “not doing Brexit properly”

> Do we want the UK to be a place where our children can thrive and reap the rewards of their education

Would that be the world class education system we used to have, with children educated according to their ability?
The one that was destroyed by ... let me think ... oh yes, Labour

He's never improved life for anyone except himself and his rich cronies. Given his lies about Brexit I'd like to see him charged with treason and imprisoned.

• *@Soulfulunfurling

I suspect you get all your information on migration from a Reform social media feed.

Do you want to share your links to reliable sources on the number of illegal immigrants who aren't in the system - ie, they just disappear into the black economy, where presumably they work for exceptionally low wages, thus generating large amounts of wealth for their employers, with the enormous surplus value from their labour.

It's the fact it's aimed at women as a put down.
Just like Angela R keeps having the fact she was a teen mum used against her as an insult.
Stuff like that is only ever used against women.

I think you may have missed my point, Dad. The ECHR have judges sitting in 2025 that will be very different from those in 1998. The context in which law is made and judgements passed is very relevant. The world (and immigration numbers) of 1998 is very different from today's world. We therefore need to leave the ECHR if it cannot reform or reflect the world as it is today.

Our rights and freedoms do not rely on foreign courts incidentally.

People have been saying for months that he's on his way out, yet. He's still here lingering like a fart in a lift

I'm not a Labour supporter and I didn't say anything about Labour. I said Reform bots appear on social media. Do you deny it?

Labour had nothing at all to do with the deals with the US and India that have been 10 plus years in the making! 😂😂

It really isn't. Just to you.

It’s not as bad as the mornings the poor and vulnerable are going to be waking up to in the future unless someone grabs the steering wheel and fast.

@Jennps

Do you write for the Murdoch media? Or the Daily Mail? The Express?

You've certainly been steeped in misinformation and propaganda, for years by the looks of things.

😂

I like KS and I’m happy with the way things are going. Measures I approve of:

1 Trade deals with India and US (steel still being negotiated but must be added)
2 EU deal incl (1) return of Erasmus (2) pet passports (3) most border checks dropped (4) defence and security pact = EXCELLENT
3 £86 bn investment in science and tech = EXCELLENT
4 New nuclear power station Sizewell C
5 Defense spending up
6 Assisted dying
7 Immigration reform incl (1) limits on dependants allowed (2) ending social care visa (3) more visas for high skilled / elite universities / science and design
8 Pip reform
9 Winter fuel payment reform

Im not bothered about the u turns on PIP and WFP which I see as pragmatic and the right thing to do. Phasing in is fairer and will upset fewer people.

Phew that was a longer than I thought. Many people will disagree with me and that’s fine - no hate please, it’s just my opinion that these measures are good for our economic outlook (and national security).

oh please!!!! Do you think they rock up and announce they are here?!!!

Are you actually for real?

Yes, it's arrogant, and they then have the nerve to call you condescending.

'The sheer numbers of low skilled migrants arriving'.

Irregular immigration only made up a small percentage of the total number of immigrants last years.

Everyone else has been invited here to work with a visa, and will be paying through the nose for that. Far and away the biggest proportion of immigrants classed as 'low skilled' workers who are coming with a visa are care workers, who've been given a visa to work in the care sector.