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To change my mind when he asked for payment in cash?

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Wardrobefred · 01/07/2025 23:51

I wanted some work done in my garden. I know I should get 3 quotes, but I just wanted it done. Price was £1200 and he could start the following week so I accepted it.

Then he asked for a deposit to "secure the date" which seemed a bit much when he clearly wasn't turning down other work! I was going to agree, just to get the job done, it was £50 by bank tf. Then he said he'd want the rest in cash on the day of completion "so he could pay the men". TBH it never occurred to me anyone would want that much in cash and it certainly wasn't mentioned when we were discussing price.

I said I'm not comfortable getting out £1200 in cash, which I'm not. It's a faff because you have to go to the bank and then walk across town carrying it. So he said pay half in cash, which still presents the same issues. By this time I was thinking my quick decision to give him the work was a bit rash, so I said I'd decided to take more time to think about it.

I'm now on the local FB page as a timewaster...

OP posts:
Commonsense22 · 02/07/2025 12:53

Purpleturtle43 · 02/07/2025 12:41

My husband dislikes it when people pay cash as he then needs to go and pay it in. Customers often had him for a 'cash price' (he doesn't do this) so customers can be as bad as the tradespeople when it comes to tax avoidance!

Yes this. It's such a PITA to have to go to the bank or post office to pay in the cash.

I am also self employed and request bank transfer specifically because my accounts are then done for me by the banking software and I don't need to worry.

It's frustrating when someone turns up with cash although I can understand it for 20 quid.
The other day someone gave my dh 600 in cash and I was like why??? So annoying. He offers card payment.

WhySoManySocks · 02/07/2025 12:44

Tax dodging is everyone’s business, so you would not be unreasonable to want to pay another way. We always do that - taxes pay for our schools, roads, the NHS.

Considering carrying cash around town, you’re just being awkward.

Purpleturtle43 · 02/07/2025 12:41

My husband dislikes it when people pay cash as he then needs to go and pay it in. Customers often had him for a 'cash price' (he doesn't do this) so customers can be as bad as the tradespeople when it comes to tax avoidance!

WearyAuldWumman · 02/07/2025 12:41

I'll add here that I had an extension built by a contractor who was unhappy that I was paying by cheque. He wanted electronic transfers and I wasn't set up for electronic banking at the time - this was more than ten years ago. He reluctantly agreed that I could pay via cheque.

I was naive and didn't realise that a precise contract for stating when amounts were to be paid should have been set up in advance - either that, or pay at the end.

What would happen is that he'd suddenly send a request for more money "to keep the cash flowing" and I'd give him another cheque. There were problems which I won't go into here.

He then lied to his subcontractors that I hadn't paid him.

I actually forwarded emails to one contractor to show that I'd paid in full. He got his money, but I don't know about the rest. I was told that the contractor had form for withholding money for as long as possible.

I later heard from one of the other sub-contractors that the contractor had accidentally set his yard alight whilst burning records when he heard that he was getting a visit from the taxman.

Given the issues that I had with that contractor, never again would I use someone who balks at a normal method of payment. (Yes, I accept that cheques are disappearing and I now do use electronic banking.)

Solaire18381 · 02/07/2025 12:40

Not unreasonable at all. Wanting a deposit, too with no materials to buy?

I actively avoid people/places who only accept cash. It's inconvenient for me, plus many other reasons I don't like paying with cash.

anniegun · 02/07/2025 12:37

Nobody who is honest with their tax affairs demands over £1000 in cash!

DiscoBob · 02/07/2025 12:36

How many men does he claim he's using, and for how many hours? And why are his 'men' (subbies/actual staff?) being paid cash in hand?

It does sound a bit weird. But then again I have paid gardeners in cash before. But only when there's was just two of them and it was under £500.

LionAndEmperor13 · 02/07/2025 12:34

maartjebaabes · 02/07/2025 12:22

I agree, evading tax seems the most likely reason for wanting cash. But there are lots of other reasons.

For example if he’s over his overdraft limit, he won’t be able to pay his man from the bank but he will be able to pay out of cash. Not exactly praiseworthy, but not your problem. This fits with what he said, although you could challenge him on it.

I used a cleaner who shared a bank account with her abusive husband. Payment to her bank account would fund his gambling. Cash funded her children.

Given how easy it is to open a bank account - it literally takes seconds - it could be that your cleaner claimed this to give you an explanation of why she wanted cash. Paypal would also have been an option.

ThatsCute · 02/07/2025 12:33

countrygirl99 · 02/07/2025 10:48

How often do we see posts from a single mum who is getting chuff all from the dad because he is getting paid cash and isn't declaring it. I bet stuffing the ex is an even bigger incentive than the tax man for some.

Exactly.

ThatsCute · 02/07/2025 12:24

HoskinsChoice · 02/07/2025 07:31

Is him dodging tax just his affair though? When you complain about schools not being good enough or the NHS not being good enough or pot holes in the road or kids living in poverty or your bins not being collected or older people not being cared for or normal people having to care for the vulnerable because there's nobody else to do it or kids being murdered because social services didn't have enough resources to notice is it still OK for us all to stand by and watch people not pay tax? When he screws over the government by not paying tax, he is screwing you too. Your services are screwed because he doesn't pay tax. And whilst he's screwing you over, he's living his best life because he can afford to. You really think it's just his affair and not yours too?

This. There’s a huge hole in the government budget right now, and decisions are being made on whose services/support are being cut. It’s completely unreasonable for a group of working adults in society to decide, “Nah…I’d rather not pay tax.”

cantkeepawayforever · 02/07/2025 12:23

On a (major) house refurbishment dealing with a long sequence of trades, I always mentioned that DH was an accountant, and enquired specifically about VAT. Definitely had some potential tradesmen turn tail at that point.

Their loss - the respectable, upfront, on-top-of-the-paperwork workmen we acquired were excellent, trustworthy and all did a series of jobs for us over more than a decade.

maartjebaabes · 02/07/2025 12:22

I agree, evading tax seems the most likely reason for wanting cash. But there are lots of other reasons.

For example if he’s over his overdraft limit, he won’t be able to pay his man from the bank but he will be able to pay out of cash. Not exactly praiseworthy, but not your problem. This fits with what he said, although you could challenge him on it.

I used a cleaner who shared a bank account with her abusive husband. Payment to her bank account would fund his gambling. Cash funded her children.

Meadowfinch · 02/07/2025 12:20

Forget about the cash issue.

Any tradesman who publicly labels a potential customer a time waster, after one issue, is bullying and lacking in professionalism, and I wouldn't want him anywhere near my home or garden.

You've dodged a bullet.

Alstromeria · 02/07/2025 12:18

Commonsense22 · 02/07/2025 12:10

You are not unreasonable about the cash.

My dh is a tradesperson and YBVVU about the deposit though. Honestly I wish my dh would take them. We get screwed all. the. time.

Edited

Why should she pay him deposit for not doing the work? She's not the unreasonable one. She was going to pay the deposit when she hired him, then changed her mind about hiring him because he wanted the rest in cash. She hasn't screwed him over.

lalalalalady · 02/07/2025 12:15

It’s hardly a huge amount. Massive over reaction on your part.

WearyAuldWumman · 02/07/2025 12:13

Poopeepoopee · 02/07/2025 07:47

Paying someone in cash doesn't mean they don't pay tax. That's another mumsnet myth.

Round my way, it usually means precisely that.

I'm avoiding a certain firm because I need a guarantee for the work done. They wanted 'cash in hand' for a lower price.

I had another firm do work for me. They wanted to know whether it was "an insurance job" because "obviously, then, it [would] be dearer" than if I were paying them.

DoristheBoris · 02/07/2025 12:12

I had a plumber ask me for cash on completion once, it was only £1500 but I was acting on behalf of someone else with POA so I simply refused. He didn’t mention it when he quoted me or I would have said then obviously. He had no choice but to accept the bank transfer.

SaintNoMountainHighEnough · 02/07/2025 12:11

Used a garden clearance firm who wanted cash, it was fine. The tax issues are their concern.

Commonsense22 · 02/07/2025 12:10

Wardrobefred · 01/07/2025 23:56

The tax is his affair afaic. I just felt cash cash insecure. The risk of being mugged whilst carrying it and no "audit trial" to prove I'd paid it. Plus he didn't offer a reduction for cash so there was no benefit to me anyway.

You are not unreasonable about the cash.

My dh is a tradesperson and YBVVU about the deposit though. Honestly I wish my dh would take them. We get screwed all. the. time.

NeedZzzzzssss · 02/07/2025 12:09

That's hardly a huge amount. He should've been clear it was a cash price upfront, but I don't see why you'd have an issue given its paid on completion

Viviennemary · 02/07/2025 12:07

Poopeepoopee · 02/07/2025 07:47

Paying someone in cash doesn't mean they don't pay tax. That's another mumsnet myth.

It's not a myth its a fact. But up to the person paying. Gardener should have been upfront about wanting cash before any deposit or agreement was made. If OP doesn't want to pay cash that's her right.

Wheech · 02/07/2025 12:03

hayfeverforever · 02/07/2025 11:08

I only have cash so I pay all tradesmen in cash, I’m not bothered if they pay tax or not. Tbh people work hard for very little after the the government have got their grubby hands on them. If me paying cash to a tradesman means he can take his family on holiday or buy his kids uniform then I’m happy to have helped.

Do you not pay tax yourself? If you do are you happy to contribute more than your fair share so others don't have to?

OP I agree with those who say to leave a measured response saying you withdrew when he refused payment of the full sum in any form other than cash. And possibly leave your own review for him on any appropriate trade page.

UncharteredWaters · 02/07/2025 12:00

This is as good as the tradesman who asked me for cash, at the same time as saying he can’t get a gp appt for a sick line.

pikkumyy77 · 02/07/2025 11:52

Poopeepoopee · 02/07/2025 07:47

Paying someone in cash doesn't mean they don't pay tax. That's another mumsnet myth.

Yeah it does. Not at all a myth.

CarrotVan · 02/07/2025 11:48

And is he paying NI for his labourers? Are they paying tax? Are they working legally? Does he have the correct insurances?

These businesses are tax fraud situations

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