Child left in car in 35 degree heat

How does that work with carseats though?
The carseat is always buckled in or isofixed?

The issue is carseat aged children, older kids would no doubt get themselves out or bang the windows.

The Washington Post article includes this salutory information:

“Death by hyperthermia” is the official designation. When it happens to young children, the facts are often the same: An otherwise loving and attentive parent one day gets busy, or distracted, or upset, or confused by a change in his or her daily routine, and just... forgets a child is in the car. It happens that way somewhere in the United States 15 to 25 times a year, parceled out through the spring, summer and early fall. The season is almost upon us.

He didn´t take him to work, the mum usually took him to nursery, this time he was in charge (change of routine) and he got distracted and drove straight to work like he did every single day.
And about noise, my kid was and is always massively silet in the car, when not asleep and when she was a baby she even puked all over my car with me sat in the front seat driving and i didn´t notice a thing.
I always took her to nursery and had an app that alerted me when I walked away from car. But if ever my husband took her I always rang him to make sure he had remembered to take her and not forgotten her in the car. Because this is one of my fears. We all think we are immune to everything until it happens to us.

So far you call posters vile, patronise and mock their capacity for intelligence and it's other posters that apparently have a god-like superiority complex?

It would appear that it's you that is willifully ignorant to consider all views.

You seem to assume that everyone is the same. That everyone applies the same level of attention, the same considerate approach to parenting their children as each other. Well they don't.

You also seem to think forgetting you have a child in the back of your car is similar to misplacing your purse or similar. Well it isn't. Just because I might misplace my wallet doesn't mean I automically have the capacity to misplace my child, what a ridiculous inference.

You're telling PP that because we make minor mistakes parenting we can't judge those that make extreme and severe parenting mistakes. All the while you're judging, patronising and insulting others. What a fucking grade A hypocrite. 😂😂😂

I had no idea Italy had done that - apparently did it back in 2019

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/11/07/child-seats-italy-fitted-alarms-spate-deaths-children-trapped/

Clearly tech must be there - hopefully other countries will make it mandatory.

There have been a few cases in Italy until government passed a law for all car seats to have a special alarm fit in, that detects if a child has been left in the vehicle.

Apparently my dad once managed to lock me (as a baby) and his car keys in his car. This was when you could lock a car by pushing the knob on the inside of the door down before you closed it. He realised immediately and then ran around frantically until he found a policeman who smashed the front window with his truncheon. I guess these incidents happen when the child is sleeping in the back.

Well done for being perfect. How absolutely wonderful you must be. How everyone must bow down to your perfection.

Didn't David Cameron leave one of his kids in a pub or something?

And you don't lock a door these days (in most cases). You walk away and click a button on a key fob. However, I walk back around the car and check every door is locked before I leave it. So get into the habit of doing that, and you won't miss a baby or dog in the back.

No worries at all - I think something weird is going on with the quoting function.

I can't see the screen shot - may appear later - sometime do for me.

However I did go and look at your quote history in one of your prior posts again and it's weirdly different to one on my post where you are clearly quoting me - hence me replying and being confused.

This is bloody odd because it now looks like same quote history thread in different posts on same thread show different posts - which is plainly very confusing. Not sure that makes sense as explination - but I'm seeing in my posts you quoting me - and then in last one of your posts the history showing you quoting the poster you clearly expected and not me.

I had no idea that could happen or how - but I apologsie for being snippy.

That's a really good idea. Agree with this and other posts we do so much on autopilot that it really is an easy mistake to make.

Ah crap - my brain skipped over half a sentence - which then completely changed what I perceived you were saying bevause I thought I was replying to the actual person going in about defective peripheral vision blah blah blah….which in itself is interesting and ironic because i’vd just fallen foul of the brain filtering what it sees bevause it thinks it’s in the right place and the right time giving a pretty good example of what’s being highlighted in this thread.

I am partially sighted, I can't see anything in the right half of both of my eyes, as you say it's a problem with my brain not my eyes. My brain has naturally adapted to it by making my eyes glance to the right every couple of seconds, like you say a quick glance does very little other than making sure I'm not bumping in to something very big and obvious.

I feel like I am going insane - what on earth in that article do you think contradicts what I said?

Brain wiring - as I posted there have been experiments done - failry famous ones - that have found we filter out what we're not focused on or expecting.

Nothing to do with eyesight - it's evolutionary short cuts.

Now to me - with memory issues and knowing autopilot and autofill verbally and visually an issue - have always been aware and made sure I compensate and come from a family that's the norm - you go back check locked door check picked thing up check where kids are and I was hyperawrae where my kids were. So I didn't leave kids ever as know this can happen so check a lot.

However that not true in DH family - they are normal people who ocassionally forget things - kids most extreme - luckly it's not been a big issue.

If there was no nefarious intent on parents behalf it's a tragic accident - and like many other tragic accidents very probably avoidable with some forthought or systems in place.

Absolutely. But a lot of parents in these hot car deaths don't think that. There's no conscious decision made that this is ok. They just forget the baby is in the car.

No, you clearly do not know what peripheral vision is (or the mechanics of how yhd brain interpret area what we can see in our peripheral.

An article - in case you have the intellectual curiosity

https://www.psychologicalscience.org/news/releases/illusion-reveals-that-the-brain-fills-in-peripheral-vision.html#:~:text=What%20we%20see%20in%20the,isn't%20always%20the%20case.

@CatHairEveryWhereNow - this is how my post looks to me, I was quoting and replying to @IHaveAlwaysLivedintheCastle not to you. Possibly an issue with the website?

Not sure if you can see the screenshot picture? When I click on quote history it show me replying to Ihavealwayslivedinthecastle .

And victims of domestic and child abuse.

Lots of people get out the car bang the door shut and hit the lock button as they walk away.
Or they just touch the door handle and it locks.
Throw in privacy glass you can't see the backseat or any child in it.
I can also image a tall person the roof of the car would block their view of the back seat.

Someone has also mentioned numbers have increase with the increased use of rear facing seats.

I always had our youngest child behind the passenger seat, statistically a slightly safer place for them to be. Actually the safest is the middle of the backseat, but no isofix in the middle.

Which probably makes it harder to notice them from the outside of the drivers door. But more likely to notice they are there from the drivers seat.

This psychology is also linked to victim blaming in other places. Specifically rape victims’ behaviour. e.g. blaming what they were wearing. Because if I dress conservatively, the world becomes magically benign. And men cease to rape.

Wishing to control every aspect of our lives by rule-following is tempting. It’s also a complete fantasy.

This is a really interesting, thought provoking read. For anyone thinking “I would never do that” it is worth reading and reflecting.

How is it possible to lock your car and not see something as large as a baby in the back seat?
Cars have windows all round. If you can't see into it you shouldn't be driving. It's stupiditu or neglect. I have no sympathy for these parents.