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GloMum · 01/07/2025 20:43

My daughter will be starting pre-reception and her key worker at the nursery is male. As a whole, the class will be overseen by this teacher plus two more female members of staff. Does anyone have experience with male nursery staff, especially in regards to caring for girls.

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Bink666 · 03/07/2025 05:11

HeyThereDelila · 01/07/2025 21:31

Stop suppressing your instincts. Having men teach in primary schools is one thing, but working with v young children in a nursery where some children will be non verbal or still in nappies is another.

I wouldn’t put my DC in a nursery where men worked.

As for the glib assertions that safeguarding stuff is sorted, did you miss the stories of abuse and manslaughter that have gone on in UK nurseries in recent years?

This!

spicedapplestew · 03/07/2025 04:54

crumblingschools · 03/07/2025 01:24

For all the posters who would have a problem with a male member of staff in a nursery, how would you feel if your son wanted to work with young children? Wouid you automatically decide he must be a sexual deviant and a risk to children?

I haven’t read the report on the Australian case but I would be asking how could that happen? With so many children potentially involved how did no-one see anything untoward.

How many of these posters have brought a stepdad into their child’s lives. Probably a much greater risk than a nursery worker

My son works with young children. He's wonderful with them and all the kids and parents love him. He's been offered nannying roles before but always declined because he doesn't want to be alone with children to protect himself. Some of the mindsets in this thread show why that is a sensible decision. I'm actually quite glad he is getting out of teaching and into a different career. I always worry about him experiencing bias as a male but he's never actually experienced it. Most people are very positive.

No-one in any childcare setting should be able to be alone with a child anyway. To protect both the child and the workers.

19ptrialprice · 03/07/2025 04:38

crumblingschools · 03/07/2025 01:24

For all the posters who would have a problem with a male member of staff in a nursery, how would you feel if your son wanted to work with young children? Wouid you automatically decide he must be a sexual deviant and a risk to children?

I haven’t read the report on the Australian case but I would be asking how could that happen? With so many children potentially involved how did no-one see anything untoward.

How many of these posters have brought a stepdad into their child’s lives. Probably a much greater risk than a nursery worker

Well I’m assuming a stepdad isn’t a stranger since he and mother are in a relationship. A nursery worker is someone who works with children in a professional setting. Not the same thing at all.

crumblingschools · 03/07/2025 01:24

For all the posters who would have a problem with a male member of staff in a nursery, how would you feel if your son wanted to work with young children? Wouid you automatically decide he must be a sexual deviant and a risk to children?

I haven’t read the report on the Australian case but I would be asking how could that happen? With so many children potentially involved how did no-one see anything untoward.

How many of these posters have brought a stepdad into their child’s lives. Probably a much greater risk than a nursery worker

19ptrialprice · 03/07/2025 01:04

wandawaves · 03/07/2025 00:57

My son had a male worker at a creche he used to go to. The kids absolutely loved him, and he loved the kids and seemed to really love his job. I remember walking in and seeing him, and getting suspicious as to why a young guy would do this as a career. I checked myself and gave myself a figurative slap on the wrist for being so judgemental.

A few months later he was arrested and jailed for raping young boys in his care.
So, I'm no longer so ok with males in childcare.

And the current case in Melbourne is horrific. 1200 kids to be tested for infectious diseases. WTF. Imagine taking your precious baby to be tested for fucking STI's.

Disgusting. The issue is men here.

wandawaves · 03/07/2025 00:57

My son had a male worker at a creche he used to go to. The kids absolutely loved him, and he loved the kids and seemed to really love his job. I remember walking in and seeing him, and getting suspicious as to why a young guy would do this as a career. I checked myself and gave myself a figurative slap on the wrist for being so judgemental.

A few months later he was arrested and jailed for raping young boys in his care.
So, I'm no longer so ok with males in childcare.

And the current case in Melbourne is horrific. 1200 kids to be tested for infectious diseases. WTF. Imagine taking your precious baby to be tested for fucking STI's.

19ptrialprice · 03/07/2025 00:24

UsingAMansNameInAWomensWorld · 03/07/2025 00:04

100% of rapes happen by men because UK law states Rape involves a penis.

Outside of more tricky discussions regarding trans ... that means only men can commit rape

Well done for clocking on.

19ptrialprice · 03/07/2025 00:24

UsingAMansNameInAWomensWorld · 03/07/2025 00:22

Its a very depressing thing to look into
But the data here might provide you all some interesting thoughts
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/crimeandjustice/articles/abuseduringchildhood/findingsfromtheyearendingmarch2016crimesurveyforenglandandwales#survivor-and-perpetrator-relationship-by-abuse-category

Notably... BOYS are more likely to be abused by a teacher etc that a girl. But many were worried mostly by their daughters being changed by a man than their sons

Men raping and abusing children. What a shock.

19ptrialprice · 03/07/2025 00:22

UsingAMansNameInAWomensWorld · 03/07/2025 00:03

The second one is a well known fact

The first one has been reported on in threads before.

Well known fact have no evidence base and something being “reported” again does not mean fact. Unless you have actual evidence I suggest you don’t post misinformation.

UsingAMansNameInAWomensWorld · 03/07/2025 00:22

Its a very depressing thing to look into
But the data here might provide you all some interesting thoughts
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/crimeandjustice/articles/abuseduringchildhood/findingsfromtheyearendingmarch2016crimesurveyforenglandandwales#survivor-and-perpetrator-relationship-by-abuse-category

Notably... BOYS are more likely to be abused by a teacher etc that a girl. But many were worried mostly by their daughters being changed by a man than their sons

UsingAMansNameInAWomensWorld · 03/07/2025 00:04

19ptrialprice · 02/07/2025 23:39

Not sexist at all to have them views. 100% of rapes are committed by men. Less than 5% of SA are committed by women.

100% of rapes happen by men because UK law states Rape involves a penis.

Outside of more tricky discussions regarding trans ... that means only men can commit rape

UsingAMansNameInAWomensWorld · 03/07/2025 00:03

19ptrialprice · 02/07/2025 23:36

Need to back up with evidence. Any fool can claim false information as fact.

The second one is a well known fact

The first one has been reported on in threads before.

littlekipling81 · 02/07/2025 23:47

My son's nursery has a male staff member. I was hesitant until I met him. He's brilliant. Also gives a good role model for the boys too. They love him

19ptrialprice · 02/07/2025 23:39

SunnySideDeepDown · 02/07/2025 21:57

I personally wouldn’t be keen on it. I’ll get blasted for being sexist but I just wouldn’t want risk my young child with an unknown man for extended periods of time without me.

Settings for children are honey pots for weirdos and with men being much more likely to commit sexual crimes, it’s just not something id feel comfortable with. No judgement on those that do though as I realise the risks are slim, it’s just not one I’m prepared to take.

Not sexist at all to have them views. 100% of rapes are committed by men. Less than 5% of SA are committed by women.

FlyingHighFlyingLow · 02/07/2025 23:37

My 18 month old has a male nursery worker and absolutely adores him. Runs over to him when dropped off with a massive grin on his face, and he's also the only nursery worker he hands his favourite stuffed animal to for safe keeping 😅. He's great with all the kids.

19ptrialprice · 02/07/2025 23:36

UsingAMansNameInAWomensWorld · 02/07/2025 23:03

Women are statistically more likely to physically harm or kill a child

The men most likely to sexually abuse a child are those related to said child

Need to back up with evidence. Any fool can claim false information as fact.

19ptrialprice · 02/07/2025 23:34

InterestedDad37 · 02/07/2025 22:56

Can't quite believe the level of toxicity in this thread! Shocking.
I'm not gay - I looked after kids, changed their nappies, boys and girls and did nothing but care for them. In the 1980s.
My father (also not gay) did the same in the 1960s.
I raised three children as a single dad, 2 of them girls, and they're all happy, well-rounded modern youngsters with a healthy outlook on life.
I understand the statistics and the basis for worry, of course I do, but the level of automatic distrust based on a carer being male is really shocking to read.
You know, if I said "all women who do X must be (insult)" I'd quite rightly be pilloried for it.
Please, let's have a little more humanity.

Sexism. It’s really toxic isn’t it. The people that do it are just as toxic themselves.

UsingAMansNameInAWomensWorld · 02/07/2025 23:03

AllPlayedOut · 02/07/2025 12:07

Of course there are other types of abuse but men are also much more likely to commit violent crimes than women. Even if women as a class spend far more time looking after children so you may expect more cases of women harming children whom they care for as they are far more often the main carer. But when we are talking about young pre-verbal children in a childcare setting who require personal care then sexual abuse is going to be the greater concern as it provides more opportunity to be alone with the child and it requires intimate care so it is easier to disguise abuse as part of personal care. Some activities are inherently riskier. This also applies to adult safeguarding hence why male Drs can see female patients for most things alone but if an intimate examination is required then a chaperone will generally be offered.

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Women are statistically more likely to physically harm or kill a child

The men most likely to sexually abuse a child are those related to said child

InterestedDad37 · 02/07/2025 22:56

Hmm1234 · 02/07/2025 19:16

Personally I think it’s really strange, normally it’s the ones that aren’t straight who choose this profession as male. If not does he have children of his old? He is happy to not do as much ‘free’ childcare for his own but will be paid for it. They have always in my experience seemed like oddballs. I even went to college doing childcare with some who did it just ‘because it looks good on their cv’ while they also had part time jobs at Tesco.

Can't quite believe the level of toxicity in this thread! Shocking.
I'm not gay - I looked after kids, changed their nappies, boys and girls and did nothing but care for them. In the 1980s.
My father (also not gay) did the same in the 1960s.
I raised three children as a single dad, 2 of them girls, and they're all happy, well-rounded modern youngsters with a healthy outlook on life.
I understand the statistics and the basis for worry, of course I do, but the level of automatic distrust based on a carer being male is really shocking to read.
You know, if I said "all women who do X must be (insult)" I'd quite rightly be pilloried for it.
Please, let's have a little more humanity.

SunnySideDeepDown · 02/07/2025 21:57

I personally wouldn’t be keen on it. I’ll get blasted for being sexist but I just wouldn’t want risk my young child with an unknown man for extended periods of time without me.

Settings for children are honey pots for weirdos and with men being much more likely to commit sexual crimes, it’s just not something id feel comfortable with. No judgement on those that do though as I realise the risks are slim, it’s just not one I’m prepared to take.

BundleBoogie · 02/07/2025 21:55

ApiratesaysYarrr · 02/07/2025 21:22

In Scandinavian countries a significant proportion of early years workers are male, and yet they don't have higher rates of abuse.

Obviously we are all anxious about our children's safety, but I think some people on this thread are over-reacting.

Do you have any data to back that up?

InterestedDad37 · 02/07/2025 21:44

usedtobeaylis · 02/07/2025 19:26

I don't know what's supposed to be funny about that. The OP is asking for opinions because almost all nursery workers are female. There's absolutely no call for dickhead responses.

Sorry, it's not meant to be a laugh or a dickhead response, simply an enthusiastic cheery smile 👍 I wasn't trying to be argumentative.

BeachPossum · 02/07/2025 21:33

My son's key worker was a man when he started at his nursery. Key worker was great, we liked him, but my son didn't vibe with him at all. Key worker is quite a jolly-bonhomie type with a gruff voice and my son just hated that approach and never bonded. He was moved to a different key worker (who happens to be a woman) and is much much happier. However, his male former key worker is one of the most popular staff members and the majority of the kids, girls included, absolutely adore him and are forever hanging off him. So overall I think it's about personality and whether they mesh than about gender. I would ask the nursery for an outline of how they resolve situations where a child doesn't get on with their key worker and see what they say, but go in with an open mind because your daughter might love him.

ApiratesaysYarrr · 02/07/2025 21:22

In Scandinavian countries a significant proportion of early years workers are male, and yet they don't have higher rates of abuse.

Obviously we are all anxious about our children's safety, but I think some people on this thread are over-reacting.

usedtobeaylis · 02/07/2025 21:22

CurlewKate · 02/07/2025 20:00

Amazing how often the male workers are “the best we ever had”!

😆