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People are really mad about dogs and heat stroke?

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Brayndrayn · 30/06/2025 21:37

In Italy there are dogs out in the midday sun with no shade with their owners for bloody hours. Personally I walk my dogs very early in this heat but it is kicking OFF on the local FB page about dogs being out today. People shouting at those with dogs as they go past in a car etc. Nobody knows others’ circumstances or where they are going or for what reason. Yes I know about paws on hot pavements but by Christ those pavements/sand in Italy were boiling and the dogs didn’t seem to care. My dogs also ran out of the house onto my patio and wanted to stay there this afternoon. I’m not saying there is no risk but this country loses the plot over dogs to point of being really very rude to other people about it. Realise I’m probably going to get flamed…

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bigkahunaburger · 01/07/2025 10:52

whynotmereally · 30/06/2025 21:43

My friends dog died after over heating. She was only three.

There’s lots of factors - type/size of dog/ where you are walking/ how long. But personally I wouldn’t risk it

I dont believe that. The stats on this are vanishingly rare.

Chintzcardboard · 01/07/2025 10:51

Dogs with flat faces suffer more in the heat because they faces are for aesthetics, not for canine comfort and health.

WhereIsMyJumper · 01/07/2025 10:51

vivainsomnia · 01/07/2025 08:17

I'm really glad you started this thread OP. I'm tired of the brigade who are much more interested in performing than truly caring about the welfare of dogs. Every time the temp gets to 20, you can be sure there will be some people on the look out to find someone to post about on FB.

Of course there will be idiots who have no clue just like you get parents who will take their kids to the beach with no suncream on but these are rare. Most dog owners know their dog's limitation and act accordingly.

I despise those warriors. On year, one posted on FB filming someone walking their dog in the park under 22 or so degrees and made a whole post about irresponsible owners and so many chip in. What they didn't k ow is that the dog was a rescue, from Cyprus, used to be on the street and used to much higher temperatures. The dog needed to be socialised and active.

Unless you see a dog genuinely suffering with evidence of it, keep your opinion to yourself!

I completely agree with this post!
Its not the fact that people are concerned, it’s that they want to gain kudos for shouting at strangers.

I absolutely detest this culture of filming ordinary people going about their business in order to post in online and have a good bitch about it - especially if all that context was missed!

noctilucentcloud · 01/07/2025 10:10

WhereIsMyJumper · 30/06/2025 22:03

Does anyone know what happens with service dogs in this heat?

There was an article on the BBC site this week from a man with a guide dog. He leaves his dog at home as it's too hot for them to work and uses other methods such as his partner guiding him instead.

caramac04 · 01/07/2025 09:59

Cabinetbat23 · 30/06/2025 21:53

Not the point but am I in the only place in the country where it is not fucking boiling?

🤣🤣🤣
#alsonotthepoint

Mymanyellow · 01/07/2025 09:51

TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 30/06/2025 23:00

No, we've had to put the heating on today for a bit.

How cold is it? The heating?

LandSharksAnonymous · 01/07/2025 09:13

Lots of people fail to understand that just because dogs in Italy or Spain are okay, dogs in the UK aren't.

One of the reasons I didn't have dogs when DH and I lived in Rome was because English bred dogs do not cope with the heat. Several of my colleagues have taken dogs overseas (Middle East, Central Europe even South-East Asia) and almost all of them have had to send their dogs back, or admit they should never have done it.

So yes, whilst dogs can cope with hot weather, dogs not bred to cope and those used to much cooler temperatures do not cope well. It's like comparing apples and oranges.

And watching a dog die of heatstroke is bloody awful.

Biginnin · 01/07/2025 09:10

Dappy777 · 30/06/2025 22:54

I certainly wouldn’t defend that kind of behaviour. You obviously love and care for your dog, and such people are out of order - especially when they don’t even know you. But in general I do understand the concern for dogs in hot weather. And if people are getting angry about this issue, it’s no bad thing. At least it shows they care.

I don’t think the people getting angry care. I think they have wound themselves up so much on facebook and mumsnet that they are delighted to see someone in real life they can hurl some abuse at and then report back that they’ve done their bit to make the world a better place.

If the genuinely cared they would just say hello, like a normal person and then say something along the lines of “oh they look hot, are they ok?” or “they look hot do you need any help?” Both of which don’t require you to call the owner a cunt.

Morecoffeethanks · 01/07/2025 08:34

Brayndrayn · 01/07/2025 08:29

I love spaniels so much. Are tiles cooler than carpet?

Yes much cooler, ours are white tiles and we keep our shutters down as soon as the sun comes around too. We have a lot of big windows so it turns into a green house.

tumblingdowntherabbithole · 01/07/2025 08:34

@Brayndrayn I’m with you that people shouldn’t be shouting but lots of the comments on here about how dogs can’t get heatstroke at x temperature makes me think that lots of people are actually quite clueless when it comes to what temperatures are actually safe.

Every summer I see people out with hot, panting, reluctant dogs whose owners will claim are absolutely fine - if people really knew their dogs, they’d know that dragging them along the pavements in 26 degree heat clearly wasn’t acceptable 🫣

Brayndrayn · 01/07/2025 08:29

Morecoffeethanks · 01/07/2025 08:26

My cocker is just moving from tiled floor to tiled floor switching positions every now and then but if I offered him walkies he would jump right up and be wanting to go. Here is France the thermostat outside the pharmacy was reading 28degrees at 8:20 this morning 🥵

I love spaniels so much. Are tiles cooler than carpet?

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Brayndrayn · 01/07/2025 08:27

tumblingdowntherabbithole · 01/07/2025 07:04

While I do think some people massively overreact, I often wonder if those saying “it’s fine, they do it in Italy and Spain” have ever seen a dog suffering from heatstroke. I’ve only ever seen videos and it is genuinely distressing to watch - I can only imagine how much worse it would be in real life.

Yes, many dogs are fine but for me it’s just not a risk I’m prepared to take with my dog. He’s absolutely fine at home even if he does get a bit bored or restless sometimes.

Vets aren’t making it up - dogs do die of heatstroke every year.

You’re right that I never have seen a dog with heat stroke but a couple of descriptions on here have sounded very traumatic. I guess we have to accept people know their dogs and we have no idea why they are outside with them and for how long and we shouldn’t be shouting at them. I also wonder how many of these dogs dying of heat stroke were very young, very old, obese, or had comorbidities. Much like humans, I guess these are the ones most at risk (along with the coat and face type risk)

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Morecoffeethanks · 01/07/2025 08:26

Brayndrayn · 01/07/2025 08:18

To be fair spaniels could be on their death bed and you might never know. They are amazingly joyful even when sick in my experience

My cocker is just moving from tiled floor to tiled floor switching positions every now and then but if I offered him walkies he would jump right up and be wanting to go. Here is France the thermostat outside the pharmacy was reading 28degrees at 8:20 this morning 🥵

PhilippaGeorgiou · 01/07/2025 08:25

People shouting at those with dogs as they go past in a car etc.

I don't know about anyone else, but my car (air-conditioned) was the coolest place all day for me and my service dog! He has to go out if I do (and we were not out for long, deliberately (I find the heat hard too!) but we also do plan for it - cooling jacket and protective boots. That said the bloody dog insisted on sunning himself on the patio half the day, and had to be ordered to come in the house!

vivainsomnia · 01/07/2025 08:23

A vet nurse in our family says there are many deaths of dogs every year because of heat stroke
Here we go! What a lot of rubbish! Under 400 dogs a year are admitted for heatstroke. One in 7 will die...that 60ish dogs a year....per the 13 million dogs in the UK!

Brayndrayn · 01/07/2025 08:18

suki1964 · 01/07/2025 08:03

I live in the much cooler NE of Ireland , I think our highest temps this week have been mid 20's ( shade ) - and our roads are melting

I have a flat faced breed of dog - a cross with a pug - he's out for a short walk early mornings and that's it until the sun drops

The minute the tongue makes an appearance when walking, that's when we turn and go home

I also have a fan for him

Always had cocker spaniels before and they always coped better in the heat - but they always got a summer shave anyway. A pug has a double coat

To be fair spaniels could be on their death bed and you might never know. They are amazingly joyful even when sick in my experience

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vivainsomnia · 01/07/2025 08:17

I'm really glad you started this thread OP. I'm tired of the brigade who are much more interested in performing than truly caring about the welfare of dogs. Every time the temp gets to 20, you can be sure there will be some people on the look out to find someone to post about on FB.

Of course there will be idiots who have no clue just like you get parents who will take their kids to the beach with no suncream on but these are rare. Most dog owners know their dog's limitation and act accordingly.

I despise those warriors. On year, one posted on FB filming someone walking their dog in the park under 22 or so degrees and made a whole post about irresponsible owners and so many chip in. What they didn't k ow is that the dog was a rescue, from Cyprus, used to be on the street and used to much higher temperatures. The dog needed to be socialised and active.

Unless you see a dog genuinely suffering with evidence of it, keep your opinion to yourself!

suki1964 · 01/07/2025 08:03

I live in the much cooler NE of Ireland , I think our highest temps this week have been mid 20's ( shade ) - and our roads are melting

I have a flat faced breed of dog - a cross with a pug - he's out for a short walk early mornings and that's it until the sun drops

The minute the tongue makes an appearance when walking, that's when we turn and go home

I also have a fan for him

Always had cocker spaniels before and they always coped better in the heat - but they always got a summer shave anyway. A pug has a double coat

Marylou62 · 01/07/2025 08:01

Cabinetbat23 · 30/06/2025 21:53

Not the point but am I in the only place in the country where it is not fucking boiling?

No you are not..North Cornwall and it was pleasantly warm but cloudy. The sun came out for a few hours then by 4.30pm the mist rolled in.
This morning woke up to more mist..
But I'm actually relieved because the menopause broke my thermostat!
Back to dogs..
In countries where they have very hot weather animals are used to it and their paws are very thick and tough..
A vet nurse in our family says there are many deaths of dogs every year because of heat stroke..
Why risk it?

JackieWilsonsaiditstimeforbedlittleone · 01/07/2025 07:56

Mine don’t go out for walks when it’s hot but we have a large garden with lots of shady parts and I counted 6 water bowls yesterday.
They love to sunbathe so we do have to encourage them into the shade.

PumpkinsAndCoconuts · 01/07/2025 07:55

Pistachiocake · 30/06/2025 22:14

Someone taking their dog to the vet-in an aircon cooled car-was screamed at. It's funny how the interfering ones don't bother to speak up about issues that really hurt dogs, such as dog fighting, people that don't look after dogs being allowed to breed/own them, banning them from off-lead exercise etc. These people don't seem to bother about children either. Now I like dogs, but children matter-there are many people that do things that hurt their children, but a lot of people don't speak up about that.

this. I adore dogs. But I wish people had the same fervour when it comes to children!

CoubousAndTourmalet · 01/07/2025 07:37

Birdsinginginthetrees · 01/07/2025 01:00

It’s a shame they don’t seem to care as much about all the dog poo that’s all over the pavements these days. My children have to constantly be reminded to watch where they are stepping on the way into school and you can often see huge ones right outside the school with a footprint right in the middle where some unfortunate child has stepped in it. It never used to be this bad.

Off topic! We complain about dog fouling too, but that subject has no relevance to this thread.

Pricelessadvice · 01/07/2025 07:17

But dogs in hotter countries are more used to heat and so can cope with hotter weather. Also, breeding comes into it. There will likely be less brachycephalic and thick coated dogs in those countries.

My recently passed dog (who made it to a grand age) loved the sun and heat and you could have probably walked her in any weather with no ill effects. My Shih Tzu really struggles and we have to be very careful with her.

The UK is quite a cool country temperature wise, so when we have heat, nobody copes well. Animals or human. You only have to look at the threads on this forum over the last couple of weeks!

tumblingdowntherabbithole · 01/07/2025 07:06

Brayndrayn · 30/06/2025 21:59

Yes! There’s a poster flying around saying even at 20 degrees there’s a risk of heatstroke. 🙄

That’s because 20 degrees is a heatstroke risk for some breeds.

tumblingdowntherabbithole · 01/07/2025 07:04

While I do think some people massively overreact, I often wonder if those saying “it’s fine, they do it in Italy and Spain” have ever seen a dog suffering from heatstroke. I’ve only ever seen videos and it is genuinely distressing to watch - I can only imagine how much worse it would be in real life.

Yes, many dogs are fine but for me it’s just not a risk I’m prepared to take with my dog. He’s absolutely fine at home even if he does get a bit bored or restless sometimes.

Vets aren’t making it up - dogs do die of heatstroke every year.