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People are really mad about dogs and heat stroke?

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Brayndrayn · 30/06/2025 21:37

In Italy there are dogs out in the midday sun with no shade with their owners for bloody hours. Personally I walk my dogs very early in this heat but it is kicking OFF on the local FB page about dogs being out today. People shouting at those with dogs as they go past in a car etc. Nobody knows others’ circumstances or where they are going or for what reason. Yes I know about paws on hot pavements but by Christ those pavements/sand in Italy were boiling and the dogs didn’t seem to care. My dogs also ran out of the house onto my patio and wanted to stay there this afternoon. I’m not saying there is no risk but this country loses the plot over dogs to point of being really very rude to other people about it. Realise I’m probably going to get flamed…

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vivainsomnia · 01/07/2025 12:09

I've seen many dog die of heatstroke
Really, how unlucky considering only about 60 dogs a year, out of 13 millions die of heat stroke and yes, the statistics are available. And even if it is only from insurance claimed, even if you double the numbers, you are still left with a tiny amount so I don't believe you've seen MANY dogs dying from it!

I agree that if you are concerned ask questions. I've seen dogs walking in the heat and been surprised, but I've never ever seen a reluctant one. Reluctant as in needing to be dragged. Or maybe some posters consider a dog panting reluctant.

Also you gave no idea of the situation. The dog might only be out, for less than 10 minutes, only walking in the shade and is therefore perfectly fine in 22 degrees.

Posters can justify it as they want but I totally agree that none of it come from genuine concern for the dog. They just like to give themselves a pat on the back fir being such caring humans. Of course none of them actually bother to call the rspca or dog warden...

sandyhappypeople · 01/07/2025 12:05

bigkahunaburger · 01/07/2025 11:31

Im sorry but if a dog dies from having a runaround in 20 degree heat then it was clearly a very weak unwell dog to start with.

What a stupid, uneducated thing to say.

You're embarrassing yourself.

ConstitutionHill · 01/07/2025 11:57

No problem in raising awareness. It's the virtue signalling BS all around this.

ConstitutionHill · 01/07/2025 11:55

skippersy · 30/06/2025 21:56

It's one of those things people love to get on their high horse about.

This.

tumblingdowntherabbithole · 01/07/2025 11:51

bigkahunaburger · 01/07/2025 11:31

Im sorry but if a dog dies from having a runaround in 20 degree heat then it was clearly a very weak unwell dog to start with.

Are you a vet?

mydogisthebest · 01/07/2025 11:40

bigkahunaburger · 01/07/2025 11:31

Im sorry but if a dog dies from having a runaround in 20 degree heat then it was clearly a very weak unwell dog to start with.

Unless you are a vet or a dog expert why don't you shut up. You are making yourself look stupid with your bullshit posts

mydogisthebest · 01/07/2025 11:36

bigkahunaburger · 01/07/2025 11:04

No I dont.

There are a handful of cases each year that die of heatstroke, out of the millions of dogs in the UK, and is always because they were left in a hot car for hours on end.
Its the latest moral panic, and its utter nonsense. Just a way for busybodies to criticise others.

Im sorry to be so blunt, but I call bullshit on all of it. But i had st bernards in queensland australia, without a moment of worry or anyone criticising me. Its cultural and in Oz we find it quite baffling and hilarious. And believe it or not we have seasons too - and dogs miraculously don't die! lol
The 'I was hot and I was wearing a hat and I dont have fur' brigade do amuse me. You aren't a dog love!

So where do you get the statistics that there are only a handful of cases each year of dogs dying from heatstroke? The true figures are not known but I would guarantee it is more than a handful.

Also it is NOT always because they were left in a hot car for hours on end. Just absolute bullshit. Quite a few dogs get heatstroke because they have been walked in the heat or because they have been running around too much and some of them die. A dog will overheat in a few minutes in a car let alone an hour or more.

If Australians really do find it "baffling and hilarious" it shows how pathetic they are. A quick google tells me that, of course, dogs do die in Australia of heatstroke.

Springersrock · 01/07/2025 11:33

Biginnin · 01/07/2025 09:10

I don’t think the people getting angry care. I think they have wound themselves up so much on facebook and mumsnet that they are delighted to see someone in real life they can hurl some abuse at and then report back that they’ve done their bit to make the world a better place.

If the genuinely cared they would just say hello, like a normal person and then say something along the lines of “oh they look hot, are they ok?” or “they look hot do you need any help?” Both of which don’t require you to call the owner a cunt.

I agree to be honest.

I regularly see posts on our local community Facebook groups from people congratulating themselves that they shouted at someone walking their dog when it’s too hot. They’ve got no idea why, or how long, a dog is outside.

I remember taking my dog to the vet last summer, I parked in their carpark and had literally just got her out of my (air conditioned) car, walked her a few steps over to their grass verge for a wee, and then took her into the (air conditioned) building.

Someone walking past started shouting at me, being abusive, calling me an idiot, told me I should be wearing a fur coat with no shoes. I pointed towards the vet and reminded them they saw me get out of the car 10 seconds ago. They told me I should have cancelled the appointment, I was an idiot, it was far too hot. I walked away in the end, but they were still shouting when I went into the building.

I walk my dog early and late when it’s hot. We go to the beach for a swim or the woods where it’s cool, but there are times she might be out on the street for a few minutes

bigkahunaburger · 01/07/2025 11:31

Im sorry but if a dog dies from having a runaround in 20 degree heat then it was clearly a very weak unwell dog to start with.

Alltheyellowbirds · 01/07/2025 11:27

1984Winston · 01/07/2025 11:01

I've seen many dog die of heatstroke (ex vet nurse) and the one that sticks in my mind is a neighbours beautiful springer who got heatstroke when it was about 20 degrees but they had let her run around too much, we battled for hours to save her to no avail. So yes I will be that person that goes on about it, it's just so avoidable and I'm sick of seeings twats walking their bracheocephalic breeds in a heatwave and then moaning about their big vets bill and having a dead dog

So sad. I was honestly a bit dismissive of all the fuss but have learned from this thread.

bigkahunaburger · 01/07/2025 11:26

CoubousAndTourmalet · 01/07/2025 11:14

Why don't you try reading the full thread and see what is being said about dogs that are born and bred in hot countries compared to dogs that grow up in a cool climate but are subjected to sudden short heatwaves? Because there is a very big difference.
I have a LGD breed that is worked in very hot areas of the US. That doesn't have any bearing on the fact that my British bred dog of the same type struggles to cope with 20 degrees. Dogs in places with extreme heat or cold acclimatise to the temperatures, just as people do. In the UK that doesn't happen because extremes are rare.

I have read the thread and I dont agree with it. I agree with the OP.

I am basing this on the fact I have had dogs all my life. I was raised in UK, I live in the UK now, I had 4 dogs in outback australia all different breeds - absolutely fine in temps in winter that went into the minuses and summer than went into late 40s!!! I have had dogs here, and its the same deal. Dogs adapt. They are dogs.
You can tell if your dog is struggling, so you give them water, and take them home, or they find somewhere cool themselves and rest. Its what dogs do.
Its not any different where the dog was born and bred. That's a total myth. Spanish dog indeed lol.
Brits are totally batshit about this stuff.

countrygirl99 · 01/07/2025 11:21

CoubousAndTourmalet · 01/07/2025 11:05

But that is your Spanish dog, there is no comparison between that and my English bred Pyrenean or my neighbour's Scottish bred Malamute ffs 🙄Some dogs struggle at 20 just as some people do.

But this woman is going bonkers at ANY dog being walked at 20° not more vulnerable dogs. Way over the top. Yeah don't walk your sick/ elderly/thick coated/brachycephalic dog but a most healthy dogs will be ok with a walk at that temp even if shorter/different route than usual. I can walk my dogs over fields without touching tarmac or paving and that isn't too unusual in a rural area like ours.

CoubousAndTourmalet · 01/07/2025 11:14

bigkahunaburger · 01/07/2025 11:04

No I dont.

There are a handful of cases each year that die of heatstroke, out of the millions of dogs in the UK, and is always because they were left in a hot car for hours on end.
Its the latest moral panic, and its utter nonsense. Just a way for busybodies to criticise others.

Im sorry to be so blunt, but I call bullshit on all of it. But i had st bernards in queensland australia, without a moment of worry or anyone criticising me. Its cultural and in Oz we find it quite baffling and hilarious. And believe it or not we have seasons too - and dogs miraculously don't die! lol
The 'I was hot and I was wearing a hat and I dont have fur' brigade do amuse me. You aren't a dog love!

Why don't you try reading the full thread and see what is being said about dogs that are born and bred in hot countries compared to dogs that grow up in a cool climate but are subjected to sudden short heatwaves? Because there is a very big difference.
I have a LGD breed that is worked in very hot areas of the US. That doesn't have any bearing on the fact that my British bred dog of the same type struggles to cope with 20 degrees. Dogs in places with extreme heat or cold acclimatise to the temperatures, just as people do. In the UK that doesn't happen because extremes are rare.

Sweetleftfood · 01/07/2025 11:12

CoubousAndTourmalet · 01/07/2025 11:01

20 degrees is too much for some dogs @Lemonyyy How many times does this need to be repeated?

Well exactly SOME dogs, not ALL dogs, so the shouting on facebook groups as a general rule is stupid.

I agree, people just love to get on their high horses and having a judgy field day. I know some people are stupid, but surely most use their common sense. Someone was asking the other day if they could drive their dog in their AC car to a shady forest with streams for a short walk? eh yes if you think your dog would be up for it, no need to bloody ask internet strangers.

My dog doesn't like the heat at all and will firmly plonk himself down if he thinks it's too hot. He loves a walk though and doesn't get why I break his routine.

whynotmereally · 01/07/2025 11:12

bigkahunaburger · 01/07/2025 11:04

No I dont.

There are a handful of cases each year that die of heatstroke, out of the millions of dogs in the UK, and is always because they were left in a hot car for hours on end.
Its the latest moral panic, and its utter nonsense. Just a way for busybodies to criticise others.

Im sorry to be so blunt, but I call bullshit on all of it. But i had st bernards in queensland australia, without a moment of worry or anyone criticising me. Its cultural and in Oz we find it quite baffling and hilarious. And believe it or not we have seasons too - and dogs miraculously don't die! lol
The 'I was hot and I was wearing a hat and I dont have fur' brigade do amuse me. You aren't a dog love!

She was a boxer taken out for an hour on a hot day with a dog walker. She started to struggle to breathe and collapsed. it’s not the sort of thing I’d lie about. That said it’s the only dog I know who has died of heatstroke. Presumably if people were less careful the numbers would be higher.

According to a study a couple of years ago around 50 dogs a year die in uk from heatstroke. (A lot more are treated for it though. ) It’s not huge numbers but it’s still a real thing that happens .

Hotter countries dogs are use to the heat, in UK hot days are rare so dogs just don’t have the same tolerance.

CoubousAndTourmalet · 01/07/2025 11:05

countrygirl99 · 01/07/2025 11:01

There's a woman on our village Facebook page who keeps posting in caps lock that no-one should walk there dogs when it's 20°. That's about the temp it needs to be before my Spanish dog will sit out in the garden.

But that is your Spanish dog, there is no comparison between that and my English bred Pyrenean or my neighbour's Scottish bred Malamute ffs 🙄Some dogs struggle at 20 just as some people do.

bigkahunaburger · 01/07/2025 11:04

whynotmereally · 01/07/2025 10:54

You don’t believe my friends dog died from heat stroke?

No I dont.

There are a handful of cases each year that die of heatstroke, out of the millions of dogs in the UK, and is always because they were left in a hot car for hours on end.
Its the latest moral panic, and its utter nonsense. Just a way for busybodies to criticise others.

Im sorry to be so blunt, but I call bullshit on all of it. But i had st bernards in queensland australia, without a moment of worry or anyone criticising me. Its cultural and in Oz we find it quite baffling and hilarious. And believe it or not we have seasons too - and dogs miraculously don't die! lol
The 'I was hot and I was wearing a hat and I dont have fur' brigade do amuse me. You aren't a dog love!

CoubousAndTourmalet · 01/07/2025 11:01

20 degrees is too much for some dogs @Lemonyyy How many times does this need to be repeated?

1984Winston · 01/07/2025 11:01

I've seen many dog die of heatstroke (ex vet nurse) and the one that sticks in my mind is a neighbours beautiful springer who got heatstroke when it was about 20 degrees but they had let her run around too much, we battled for hours to save her to no avail. So yes I will be that person that goes on about it, it's just so avoidable and I'm sick of seeings twats walking their bracheocephalic breeds in a heatwave and then moaning about their big vets bill and having a dead dog

countrygirl99 · 01/07/2025 11:01

There's a woman on our village Facebook page who keeps posting in caps lock that no-one should walk there dogs when it's 20°. That's about the temp it needs to be before my Spanish dog will sit out in the garden.

Anonymouseposter · 01/07/2025 10:59

Cabinetbat23 · 30/06/2025 21:53

Not the point but am I in the only place in the country where it is not fucking boiling?

No, you aren’t alone. Dull and cloudy here.

CoubousAndTourmalet · 01/07/2025 10:58

bigkahunaburger · 01/07/2025 10:52

I dont believe that. The stats on this are vanishingly rare.

If the dog didn't have insurance, there wouldn't be "stats" though, would there? Animal cause of death is not categorised in the same way as human deaths are, so I don't know where you expect to see the evidence...

Lemonyyy · 01/07/2025 10:58

There’s definitely a middle ground - obviously walking in the midday sun on a pavement in 30 degrees yesterday would’ve been bad for a dog, but the mithering usually starts up on our local facebook when it hits about 20 degrees and it seems excessive to me.

Also surely there’s a degree of common sense that needs to be applied, I drove my dog to the woods yesterday post school run. Straight into a shady forest (not pavement) and down to the stream for a paddle/swim. No manic ball chucking or racing around with other dogs. Surely that’s fine???

Brayndrayn · 01/07/2025 10:54

Chintzcardboard · 01/07/2025 10:51

Dogs with flat faces suffer more in the heat because they faces are for aesthetics, not for canine comfort and health.

Maybe we should start shouting at these owners every time we see them out with their dog then?

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whynotmereally · 01/07/2025 10:54

bigkahunaburger · 01/07/2025 10:52

I dont believe that. The stats on this are vanishingly rare.

You don’t believe my friends dog died from heat stroke?

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