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Creeping Americanisation bothers me

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luckymumandnowluckygranny · 30/06/2025 20:31

I know it’s silly to care, but creeping Americanisation bothers me. I love the differences - it makes going on holiday over there so exciting - like being in a film. But I don’t like it when it erodes our traditions - we don’t want everywhere to be exactly the same, do we?. And it’s even worse when they take our ideas and claim they were theirs all along. Anyway, I quote from this week’s Sunday Times - “the formal dance at the end of the the school year used to be a solely American rite of passage” They go on to say that it is now a “staple” of the British school experience. One mum quoted says it is an inevitability of the Americanisation of our culture.
Well, perhaps that is true in England, I don’t know. But in Scotland the school I attended in the 1970s and the one my children attended in the 1990s - 2000s, and the schools my friends went to, have held “Leaving Balls” since at least the 1950s (perhaps earlier but I have no-one left to ask). It was all arranged by the Ball Committee which was elected at the beginning of the school year.The girls wore ballgowns , not “prom dresses” and boys wore dinner jackets, not “tuxes”, and they got together to get ready and do hair and makeup. The dresses were bought in Debenhams or John Lewis or local independent dress shops, who kept a note of which schools the girls came from to avoid duplicates. You did not need a date, as all the leavers were invited, and no outsiders were allowed. There was no Queen or King. And I know that only last week as term ended our local schools had Leaving Balls, not proms. So what’s American about that?
Same with Halloween - this was huge in Scotland - we dressed up and went out guising - we performed a song or poem or dance in return for sweets - no threat of “tricking” was involved. We had bonfires and fireworks and clootie dumpling, treacle scones and dooking for apples. And I know this goes back at least 100 years (in fact having looked it up it goes back to the 16th century) . So I ask again, what’s American about that?
Yet I hear complaints that folk don’t like Halloween because it is so American.
And don’t get me started on Hogmanay…
So let’s celebrate our own traditions and pick up some fun ones from other cultures, yes, including the USA.
Thanksgiving, anyone?

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Jc2001 · 30/06/2025 21:23

BoredZelda · 30/06/2025 21:03

I never understood why people thought Halloween was American. We were guising using “trick or treat” back in the 70s in the North East (Scotland) and also had a leaver’s ball in 1990.

The other one we hear about is “baby showers” but again, there has always been a tradition in Scotland of older mums getting together with mums to be and passing on their wisdom / old baby stuff.

Exactly. Halloween / trick or treat is something that was originally imported through Scottish and Irish immigration to America in the 1800s (obviously it's evolved over the years)

user1476613140 · 30/06/2025 21:18

TheNightingalesStarling · 30/06/2025 21:13

We had Leavers Balls (definitely not Proms) when I left school in the early noughties. Long standing traditions.

It was just known as a Leaver's Party in S6 as you left school in Scotland years ago. Held at a function suite with some private catering and a wee disco/ DJ.

MyIvyGrows · 30/06/2025 21:15

But cultures which are very close do bleed together eventually. We’ve had American media dominant in the UK for so long now. Who cares what the end of year school party or the things kids do on 31 October are called?

TheNightingalesStarling · 30/06/2025 21:13

We had Leavers Balls (definitely not Proms) when I left school in the early noughties. Long standing traditions.

ShesTheAlbatross · 30/06/2025 21:11

InvitingMattress · 30/06/2025 20:57

Your title seems to contradict the body of your post, as you’re saying that school leavers’ balls and Halloween being thought of as Americanisation isn’t incorrect.

I think she’s saying that leavers’ balls have been Americanised into “proms”.

Pinkissmart · 30/06/2025 21:10

Every damn year there's a post about prom/ Leaving Balls eroding British Life.

Do you genuinely think British culture is so fragile that it will collapse if some kids celebrate finishing school?

This isa bloody awful post. I'm Canadian, and many of the things people get upset about are features of our culture too.
Offensive but I doubt @mnhq will do anything. As usual.

BoredZelda · 30/06/2025 21:03

I never understood why people thought Halloween was American. We were guising using “trick or treat” back in the 70s in the North East (Scotland) and also had a leaver’s ball in 1990.

The other one we hear about is “baby showers” but again, there has always been a tradition in Scotland of older mums getting together with mums to be and passing on their wisdom / old baby stuff.

CorbyTrouserPress · 30/06/2025 21:02

I think the Americanisations I dislike are more ones which are infiltrating the British way of doing things, for example, I was watching the Club World Cup and the players all came out named one by one with fireworks and music, it was just so ‘soccer’ and not football. In the big scheme of life it doesn’t matter but it just irritates because it’s not how we do football.

CorbyTrouserPress · 30/06/2025 20:59

Laserwho · 30/06/2025 20:54

I can only go with my own experiences in England. End of year balls wasn't a thing and Halloween was watching a scary movie. So these new experience my kids enjoy, prom and trick or treating are definitely from America.

I’m from England and definitely went trick or treating in the 80s. We also had an end of year disco, so not as elaborate (or expensive) as a prom but still a big party.

InvitingMattress · 30/06/2025 20:57

Your title seems to contradict the body of your post, as you’re saying that school leavers’ balls and Halloween being thought of as Americanisation isn’t incorrect.

Laserwho · 30/06/2025 20:54

I can only go with my own experiences in England. End of year balls wasn't a thing and Halloween was watching a scary movie. So these new experience my kids enjoy, prom and trick or treating are definitely from America.

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