Is this neglect?

It’s no surprise there is a direct correlation with conspiracy theories being picked up by the algorithms, served to millions more people on SM, and the increase in ‘SC gives you cancer’ nonsense.

I burnt very badly when I was 10. Basically on down to bad parenting which I won’t go into here. It was awful, I was in pain for days, peeling skin. No pain relief offered.
Your friend is a crap parent and the nursery is crap. I would be reporting them both.

Proven by whom?

This is one of the most depressing threads I’ve read in a long time. Poor child. Your friend is so misguided. Our education system needs to get better at helping people assess health claims, better understand risk and think critically.

This is exactly what I was going to say. I have only ever peeled once and it was 4 days after the burn. So likely she's peeling from the weekend or last week. People are very quick to jump on the nursery though.

The nursery should as standard make them sign a form when they enroll that they are allowed to apply sunscreen

It sounds like sunburn happened over the weekend if its peeling. So maybe not the nursery’s fault.

Not providing a sunhat to a small child is pretty negligent of the mother parents/carers

Could have been dad that dropped off 🤷‍♀️

From the NHS website:

www.nhs.uk/baby/first-aid-and-safety/safety/safety-in-the-sun/

• Babies under 6 months old should be kept out of direct sunlight. Older babies should also be kept out of the sun as much as possible, particularly in the summer and between 11am and 3pm, when the sun is at its strongest.
• If you go out when it's hot, attach a parasol or sunshade to your baby's pushchair to keep them out of direct sunlight.

So I would have no problem with the parent saying “she’s a toddler, no suncream, just do not let her out in the sun”.

Sunscreen isn’t magic unfortunately - I’ve been sunburnt wearing factor 50 many times (in the UK, just out and about at the wrong time of day). I try to stay out of the sun instead now. I’d be unhappy if I gave those instructions to nursery and they ignored me.

If her skin is peeling then surely that’s not from today, that’s from a previous day? I would be contacting SS so fast.

Your friend needs to seek medical attention for her child given how badly she was burnt and you say she is lethargic. I would gently suggest to your friend she do that, if she doesn't that us further evidence of neglect. I would also suggest a call to children's services- may not result in an assessment but would log the concerns and if more in future shows a pattern of neglect.

Your friend is ridiculous and the nursery are at fault.

No suncream means no outside time.

Maybe they didn't!! If she was 'already peeling' that's not from today.

I can almost understand that someone might have read something and decided that suncream is toxic.
Not providing a sunhat to a small child is pretty negligent of the mother and the nursery though. I think I feel more shocked at the nursery leaving a small child out in that with zero protection. They must have seen her actually turning red...

Fine for the parent not to want to use sunscreen (some children are genuinely allergic, some people (me! yesterday!) are so sun-sensitive that they burn even wearing 8-hour factor 50 if they are outside at midday.

But if you aren’t using suncream, and even if you are tbh, you shouldn’t be out in the sun all day. I would hold nursery 100% responsible for this - they should have kept her in the shade.

DS’s nursery had a massive sail they put up and kept the children under between 10am-4pm in summer - there was water play and construction toys and painting outside, and they ate lunch outside. But not in the full glare of the midday sun. We put suncream on him (and a hat and a UV top) but even if we hadn’t I don’t think he would have burned because nursery were so careful.

The nursery are crap too. Poor kid.

@Marii97 did you say the child was lethargic as well as burned? If so, neglect aside, that is a symptom of heat stroke which can be fatal in a young child. If you’re still there / close by can you check on them? If still hot, strip them down to undies and sponge with cool, not cold, water, get fluid with rehydration tablets into them and get medical advice.

And yes, it’s neglect. And the bloody nursery needs a kick up the proverbial for letting the child out without sun cream in 30+ heat. My DD is in her 20s but had to have a hat, cream and/or long sleeves when in nursery in the summer months and we’re in a place that rarely goes above 25°.

I have a high risk of developing cancer due to a condition I have and my highly regarded dermatologist says it’s essential it is worn every day.

One day “they” will say water is cancer causing and all of the people who get sucked into this nonsense will dehydrate to death and stink!

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Blistering doesn’t happen in a couple of hours nor does peeling. Just saying.

Do you know what causes skin cancer....the sun! Sun cream is far less harmful than sunburn, sunstroke, dehydration.
The parent is a moron who should be reported for neglect, the nursery should be reported for allowing a child to burn.

Oh maybe it is this why it is dangerously "on trend"

Oh this is the stupid woo end of modern motherhood that has destroyed US public health under RFK jr. Ge is supported by these fools.

Which sunscreens and where has it been proven?

I'm very surprised the nursery didn't call the parent to say they needed to collect the child because they couldnt ensure safe outside time and couldn't keep her inside because of ratios. Cancer risk aside, sunburn is horribly painful and the damage often continues after you're out of the sun. That poor kid.

There is no evidence that sunscreen causes cancer. The chemicals you are referring to have been approved as safe. There is no evidence of what you’re saying.

One of my Dc works in a nursery this has apparently become common, the nursery don't know if it is a trend or what is going on, it absolutely is neglect if you allow your child to be sun burned.