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Is this neglect?

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Marii97 · 30/06/2025 19:24

I was with my friend today and has a nearly 3 year old in nursery. The nursery rang and said they don’t have any sun cream in for her, can they use nursery sun cream? She told them no, she doesn’t need it. Please don’t apply any. She then told me afterwards she doesn’t like to use sun cream. I came with her to pick up her DD after we had done shopping and all her arms and under her eyes/cheeks were burnt and already peeling and looked swollen under her eyes.

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AIAgent · 30/06/2025 21:50

beforetherain20 · 30/06/2025 21:47

No because people have social media and the stupid Yuka app and think vaccinating for measles is poison and that “nasties” in spf are causing skin cancer
honestly
do what you want to yourself but vaccinate and put spf on your kids

I’m a redhead and burn at 10am and I’m so thankful my mum stuck up for me even at school to say “no she needs shade, no she won’t be outside on sports day all day, and no she needs spf constantly”

💯

I have reported the earlier post.

There is a big difference between freedom of speech, debate, and just posting false information.

CunningLinguist2 · 30/06/2025 21:50

Was she maybe indoors at nursery today but out over the weekend and got burned? (Matches better w peeling already & the fact that no nursery would let her out in the sun minus a hat and SC).
your friend’s deluded and neglecting her kid though. Her body, her choice, but you have to protect your kid?!

beforetherain20 · 30/06/2025 21:47

Finnoula · 30/06/2025 21:43

I have the type of skin that burns if I even think about the sun. I was born to be in the bogs and marshes in the rain 🤣

My DP is very olivey and grew up in the south of France… guess which one of us never wore sun cream growing up. And which one has had skin cancer as a result.

While there are many people that are sensitive to sun creams there are so many options out there. Surely people have been using UV protection and suncreams for long enough now for us all to realise that the risk of sun damage causing cancer far outweighs the risks of using some cream?

No because people have social media and the stupid Yuka app and think vaccinating for measles is poison and that “nasties” in spf are causing skin cancer
honestly
do what you want to yourself but vaccinate and put spf on your kids

I’m a redhead and burn at 10am and I’m so thankful my mum stuck up for me even at school to say “no she needs shade, no she won’t be outside on sports day all day, and no she needs spf constantly”

BoredZelda · 30/06/2025 21:45

LemondrizzleShark · 30/06/2025 20:16

From the NHS website:

www.nhs.uk/baby/first-aid-and-safety/safety/safety-in-the-sun/

  • Babies under 6 months old should be kept out of direct sunlight. Older babies should also be kept out of the sun as much as possible, particularly in the summer and between 11am and 3pm, when the sun is at its strongest.
  • If you go out when it's hot, attach a parasol or sunshade to your baby's pushchair to keep them out of direct sunlight.

So I would have no problem with the parent saying “she’s a toddler, no suncream, just do not let her out in the sun”.

Sunscreen isn’t magic unfortunately - I’ve been sunburnt wearing factor 50 many times (in the UK, just out and about at the wrong time of day). I try to stay out of the sun instead now. I’d be unhappy if I gave those instructions to nursery and they ignored me.

On the other hand, I have incredibly fair skin and have never burned in the 30 years I’ve used it.

Finnoula · 30/06/2025 21:43

I have the type of skin that burns if I even think about the sun. I was born to be in the bogs and marshes in the rain 🤣

My DP is very olivey and grew up in the south of France… guess which one of us never wore sun cream growing up. And which one has had skin cancer as a result.

While there are many people that are sensitive to sun creams there are so many options out there. Surely people have been using UV protection and suncreams for long enough now for us all to realise that the risk of sun damage causing cancer far outweighs the risks of using some cream?

lottleandlittle · 30/06/2025 21:36

Send her links for non toxic suncream for kids or if you have the budget buy her a bottle to ‘try’ see if that will encourage her to use it

Catwoman8 · 30/06/2025 21:34

FumingTRex · 30/06/2025 20:18

It sounds like sunburn happened over the weekend if its peeling. So maybe not the nursery’s fault.

Yes I agree, did the nursery actually let her outside? It sounds like the child has burned over the weekend for her skin to be peeling today. Peeling usually doesn't happen immediately. That poor child, now suffering the consequences of a stupid parent!

AquaCat93 · 30/06/2025 21:31

I use the Yuka app and all the screen shots are of suncream that have no known nasties in them. All widely available in the supermarket.
If your friend is able to read then she is able to buy sun cream.

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mrschocolatte · 30/06/2025 21:31

I’m not sure the nursery is at fault here. OP, how do you know that the sun burn you saw was from today? It was equally hot yesterday. Could the poor little mite have been suffering and peeling from days of exposure?

ToKittyornottoKitty · 30/06/2025 21:27

Marii97 · 30/06/2025 20:53

The nursery room is downstair and is free flow so they can go inside and out when they please. Also my friend DD is strawberry blonde and very fair.

That’s not how any nursery works on days like today, same for if there’s heavy hail stone/snow they don’t let them wonder out in just a nappy and freeze

Blueberry911 · 30/06/2025 21:27

Marii97 · 30/06/2025 20:53

The nursery room is downstair and is free flow so they can go inside and out when they please. Also my friend DD is strawberry blonde and very fair.

The nursery should have just put suncream on her, so they are partly to blame here, but your friend is well and truly stupid. She is neglecting her child.
In the interest of being a good friend, say something!!

sciaticafanatica · 30/06/2025 21:21

I work in a nursery.. no child was allowed out today.. it was just so hot

AIAgent · 30/06/2025 21:20

It’s not just suncream.

A combination of factors has lead to an all time low level of public trust in science, conventional medicine and huge increase in conspiracy theories from social media. In part driven by algorithms as well as those messages just being amplified by the easy reach of those platforms.

It’s really concerning to me people getting their information from SM think it’s fact. That’s fine if you to question ‘big pharma’. You need to equally questioning the source, evidence and algorithm that served this fact up to you.

I’m all for scientific debate. That is 💯 not what this is.

beforetherain20 · 30/06/2025 21:09

Ah it’s the new think on social media
saw a video of someone putting SPF on her husbands back and all the comments were
”you’ll get the life insurance”
”how to get skin cancer 101”
”the spf will kill him”

MissMoneyFairy · 30/06/2025 21:07

Marii97 · 30/06/2025 20:53

The nursery room is downstair and is free flow so they can go inside and out when they please. Also my friend DD is strawberry blonde and very fair.

Toddlers can't be left to go in and out as they please, that's irresponsible and ridiculous.

Marii97 · 30/06/2025 20:53

The nursery room is downstair and is free flow so they can go inside and out when they please. Also my friend DD is strawberry blonde and very fair.

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Ijustwanttobehealthy · 30/06/2025 19:45

She's not, it's been proven that some suncreams cause cancer. It's the nursery who were in the wrong to let the child go out unprotected in the middle of a fucking heat wave. The nursey are negligent here.

Have you got a peer reviewed resource that shows this?

FlowerPower2525 · 30/06/2025 20:34

Our pre school don't allow children out unless have suncream on

Lunde · 30/06/2025 20:34

What is the procedure at the nursery. At the one my kids attended (but we are going back 20+ years) parents were asked to apply it at home and they would reapply during the day. The nursery my kids attended had a big outdoors ethos and they would spend all their time outside in hot weather.

Could it be that the mum had no communicated her "no suncream" policy properly and the nursery were under the impression that it had been applied at home and it was only when they went to reapply it that they realised there wasn't any.

AIAgent · 30/06/2025 20:33

Ijustwanttobehealthy · 30/06/2025 19:45

She's not, it's been proven that some suncreams cause cancer. It's the nursery who were in the wrong to let the child go out unprotected in the middle of a fucking heat wave. The nursey are negligent here.

Proven?

State your references and facts else you are very much contributing TO cancer not solving it.

Scientific debate - I’m all for that. Regurgitating absolute BS people read on SM should be called out for what it is.

Have you heard the recent BBC podcast on cancer conspiracy where a young woman died from treatable lung cancer due to a nutcase mother whose conspiracies also started with sun cream.

UnbeatenMum · 30/06/2025 20:33

My DS wouldn't wear suncream for a couple of years so he wore long sleeved tops, long trousers and a hat that covered the back of his neck. And UV suits for swimming/beach. It is neglect, yes, sunburn is painful and can be dangerous.

BoredZelda · 30/06/2025 20:30

steff13 · 30/06/2025 20:24

Proven by whom?

There is not a single scrap of evidence that suncreams cause cancer.

There is an abundance of evidence that exposure to UV from the sun causes cancer.

BoredZelda · 30/06/2025 20:28

I don’t know a single nursery who would allow a child outside without suncream on a sunny day.

Lunde · 30/06/2025 20:28

Fastertimer · 30/06/2025 19:36

How in the world does a child burn whilst at nursery? Surely during hottest part they’d be inside? Mine are primary and weren’t allowed out. Plus, my mum didn’t use suncream on me , we lived in a very hot part of the world for a short time as a toddler in the 70’s I never burnt and went to nursery.

there are plenty of organic creams too

Do you have skin that burns very easily? I do and famously got burned on my shoulders under a parasol, wearing a cotton shirt and slathered in factor 50 suncream.

My mum didn't believe in suncream either in the 1960s/70s but I had to have a basal cell carcinoma removed from my face in my 50s.