Is this neglect?

Marii97 · 2025-06-30T18:24:01+00:00

I was with my friend today and has a nearly 3 year old in nursery. The nursery rang and said they don’t have any sun cream in for her, can they use nursery sun cream? She told them no, she doesn’t need it. Please don’t apply any. She then told me afterwards she doesn’t like to use sun cream. I came with her to pick up her DD after we had done shopping and all her arms and under her eyes/cheeks were burnt and already peeling and looked swollen under her eyes.

PithyTaupeWriter · 12/07/2025 22:58

Anti sunscreeners are the new anti vaxxers in my opinion. The common theme seems to be bored shitless mums who have so little control over their lives - usually SAHM or earn very little money, or husbands call all the shots. The only things they can control are what their kids eat, and whether they are vaccinated or use sunscreen. Lame.

Catwoman8 · 01/07/2025 15:45

Marii97 · 30/06/2025 23:32

They had definitely been out at least for some part today, as they had to ring to say they had no sun cream for her and she wasn’t ticked to say nursery sun cream, so they have to ring parent and confirm that they can have the nursery sun cream applied

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Yes but it is possible they refused to let her outside when the parent had refused suncream/protection. People are quick to blame the nursery without knowing the facts, i dont think any responsible nursery will have allowed the child outside with no protection.

I think the damage was already done and nursery should be reporting a safeguarding concern for the child.

AIAgent · 01/07/2025 15:29

I recognise the nursery may have some questions to answer but can we focus on the parent - who is 💯 be responsible for this child’s sun protection for its entire childhood.

It smacks of nanny-state and people not being responsible for their actions otherwise.

Very annoyed by this thread as it feels like suncream is the new gateway conspiracy theory.

Sadmummy3 · 01/07/2025 13:37

Where I worked the parents would probably be told to pick the child up. Nurseries can get in trouble with Ofsted if they don't take children out twice a day and it's not fair to keep one child in because their parents are idiots. Or more likely a group of children would have to stay inside to keep to ratios and that's unfair on the other children.
They might have been out in the cooler part of the day and in the shade but a child could still burn.
I think this is more on the parent but the nursery should have insisted mum picked up.

Fetchthevet · 01/07/2025 13:25

Marii97 · 30/06/2025 23:32

They had definitely been out at least for some part today, as they had to ring to say they had no sun cream for her and she wasn’t ticked to say nursery sun cream, so they have to ring parent and confirm that they can have the nursery sun cream applied

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But after the parent said no, they may have done the sensible thing and let her stay inside. We don't know.

Muffinmam · 01/07/2025 02:53

Marii97 · 30/06/2025 19:27

I think she saw somewhere about toxic things in sun cream and them absorbing into skin. I said you can get organic but she said she’d prefer nothing. I was concerned with how burnt she was

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There’s no such thing as organic sunscreen. Sunscreen is compiled of synthetic chemicals designed to protect you from the sun.

bluewanda · 30/06/2025 23:48

LemondrizzleShark · 30/06/2025 22:38

Woop-di-do for you. What was your point?

I have said I use factor 50 daily. I am a doctor, I know it doesn’t cause cancer (or anything else). I just don’t think it’s necessarily sufficient for many people, and the advice for babies and toddlers is that they shouldn’t be out in the midday sun anyway. Certainly no two year old should be out in the sun long enough to blister, sun cream or no sun cream.

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Unnecessarily nasty post, and I don’t believe you’re a doctor either (I certainly hope you’re not, with that attitude).

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Marii97 · 30/06/2025 23:32

Catwoman8 · 30/06/2025 21:34

Yes I agree, did the nursery actually let her outside? It sounds like the child has burned over the weekend for her skin to be peeling today. Peeling usually doesn't happen immediately. That poor child, now suffering the consequences of a stupid parent!

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They had definitely been out at least for some part today, as they had to ring to say they had no sun cream for her and she wasn’t ticked to say nursery sun cream, so they have to ring parent and confirm that they can have the nursery sun cream applied

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Marii97 · 30/06/2025 23:28

Stripeyanddotty · 30/06/2025 22:01

I’m finding this hard to believe- especially the nursery part.

Well, that’s ok but it’s true. Like I say, it’s not just today it’s been hot, so she may well already have had sun burn, but it looked ever so bad when she came out today

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AlwaysHopefull89 · 30/06/2025 23:27

Wtf

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Marii97 · 30/06/2025 23:26

mrschocolatte · 30/06/2025 21:31

I’m not sure the nursery is at fault here. OP, how do you know that the sun burn you saw was from today? It was equally hot yesterday. Could the poor little mite have been suffering and peeling from days of exposure?

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Yes, very likely, she hasn’t been applying it at all apparently and won’t and refused nursery to use theirs either

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Hotelmotelholidayinnnnnn · 30/06/2025 22:40

Wineisalwaysagoodidea · 30/06/2025 19:25

Yes. It’s neglect. Did you ask her why she was against SC? Also the nursery shouldn’t have allowed her outside to the extent she was being sunburnt

This. Both are to blame. Nursery have a duty of care to the child but dcs mum sounds like an idiot

beforetherain20 · 30/06/2025 22:39

TheWibble · 30/06/2025 22:05

She may think that suncream is toxic, but so is chemotherapy treatment for cancer.

Yes, I do think it's neglect, but the nursery should have kept the poor child indoors or in the shade at the very least.

It’s crazy
people won’t vaccinate but if your child ends up in ICU you’re begging for the “toxic” meds, not asking for homeopathic remedies

i inject a drug that has a black box in America, a high risk of anaphylaxis and it doubles my risk of cancer
sounds terrifying but when they explained it, it basically meant my risk goes from (I can’t remember the numbers) 1 in 10000 to 2 in 10000
i wouldn’t give up the drug for the world, it’s been life changing

LemondrizzleShark · 30/06/2025 22:38

BoredZelda · 30/06/2025 21:45

On the other hand, I have incredibly fair skin and have never burned in the 30 years I’ve used it.

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Woop-di-do for you. What was your point?

I have said I use factor 50 daily. I am a doctor, I know it doesn’t cause cancer (or anything else). I just don’t think it’s necessarily sufficient for many people, and the advice for babies and toddlers is that they shouldn’t be out in the midday sun anyway. Certainly no two year old should be out in the sun long enough to blister, sun cream or no sun cream.

2021x · 30/06/2025 22:38

This is neglect borderline abuse. That child was harmed unnecessairly.

Please report it, your friend needs help with parenting.

Theunamedcat · 30/06/2025 22:12

GiddyRoseCrab · 30/06/2025 19:56

There is no evidence that sunscreen causes cancer. The chemicals you are referring to have been approved as safe. There is no evidence of what you’re saying.

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Apparently it's because people are not reapplying and and we are no longer covering up we are relying on sunscreen too much! As a child it was
Sunscreen
Big hat
Cover up
Inside by lunch outside after three

Picnics were under trees not in the middle of a field in full sun etc etc we were taught to seek shade

Pinty · 30/06/2025 22:07

It's another of those dangerous conspiracy theories.
Social media has a lot to answer for. Gullible people seem to be prepared to believe anything and to dismiss actual scientific evidence.
People have died because of it but it doesn't seem to make the slightest difference to those people's actions or beliefs

TheWibble · 30/06/2025 22:05

She may think that suncream is toxic, but so is chemotherapy treatment for cancer.

Yes, I do think it's neglect, but the nursery should have kept the poor child indoors or in the shade at the very least.

Stripeyanddotty · 30/06/2025 22:01

I’m finding this hard to believe- especially the nursery part.

Glitchymn1 · 30/06/2025 22:01

GCDPAF · 30/06/2025 19:51

The Sheep mentality is getting out of hand, “some randoms said it was true on social media, so it must be true” 🙄. I’d rather listen to my dermatologist who says it should be worn every day.
Poor child. 100% neglect. Would rather her child destroy her skin so she can follow the “trend”.
It would be interesting to know whether all of these people jumping on the no sunscreen bandwagon also don’t wash their face, moisturise or wear make up, because all of it contains chemicals.

This.

Thehop · 30/06/2025 22:00

Your friend is nuts and h childs risk of skin cancer later in life has gone through the roof

nursery want reporting for letting it happen, she should have been kept indoors

JustFeedMeCake · 30/06/2025 21:58

Why are you friends with such an idiot? Of course the poor child needs sunscreen.

NeedZzzzzssss · 30/06/2025 21:55

Dinosaursdontgrowontrees · 30/06/2025 19:28

You friend is very unreasonable but Tbh the nursery are at equally at fault here, they shouldn’t of let a child who they know was not wearing sun cream outside in a heat wave.

This and she should be wearing a hat. Unfortunately your friend is thick, but I guess it's the same as a parent which is anti-vax, forces their kid to be vegan, has lots of screentime etc Not much you can do about it.

vodkaredbullgirl · 30/06/2025 21:53

Next generation for skin cancer.

BoredZelda · 30/06/2025 21:51

AquaCat93 · 30/06/2025 21:31

I use the Yuka app and all the screen shots are of suncream that have no known nasties in them. All widely available in the supermarket.
If your friend is able to read then she is able to buy sun cream.

Wow, I’ve never seen junk science countered by junk science before!