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SchoolTripSENDrama · 30/06/2025 18:11

Name changed as this is outing.

Mumsnet, I need your wisdom. DC is in reception, has ASD and an EHCP. They have 1:1 support.

a school trip was organised which would have been completely unsuitable for DC. Partly due to them being such a flight risk but also, they would not have got on the school bus in the first place. I asked what the option was if DC didn’t attend the trip and was told the school had enough staff to accommodate them, so if DC didn’t go on the trip they would get slapped with an unauthorised absence. No option for them to attend school that day.

AIBU to think this is not ok or do I clearly not have a clue how schools work?

So as not to drip feed, I kept DC at home and their 1:1 support went on the trip with the rest of the class.
I was told I could have gone on the trip too but I had too work, plus I knew it would have been so stressful for everyone, especially DC and I wasn’t prepared to put them through that.

is this legit?

OP posts:
SchoolTripSENDrama · 30/06/2025 19:08

ZoggyStirdust · 30/06/2025 19:05

It’s a reasonable question

It’s not relevant. My question was are the school legally allowed to not have any provision for DC to attend school if they don’t go on the trip. Hopefully someone has the answer.

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ToKittyornottoKitty · 30/06/2025 19:08

SchoolTripSENDrama · 30/06/2025 19:02

Nope. In my op I said I had to work, plus I wasn’t prepared to put DC through the stress of the trip. There’s no “now I’m saying”. It’s all there in the op.

If that was the case then why did you have to clarify anything? You said in your update you kept them
off out of choice, not because of work. In the OP
you said it just wasn’t an option for you to go so that solution wasn’t viable.

FloofyBird · 30/06/2025 19:07

Han86 · 30/06/2025 18:45

All parents are usually grateful that trips are put on. If they aren't then parents complain they don't get to go anywhere! Organising a trip is very stressful!
Though based on posts on MN maybe schools shouldn't bother as people moan about costs so maybe they should scrap them and then the problem is solved!

Lots of parents are more than happy to volunteer to help on trips and many are willing to step in if they know that will make a difference to their child being able to go. It's usually a case of telling parents their help isn't required!

This is one of those can't win situations..school try their best but it's still wrong.

That's not what you said though is it. You said the parents of the disabled children are grateful they get to go. That's very different to all parents are grateful you run trips.

Trying make a parent come on a trip so school don't have to provide extra staff isn't acceptable either, schools should ensure they're capable of managing without the disabled child's parents or run a different trip.

ZoggyStirdust · 30/06/2025 19:05

SchoolTripSENDrama · 30/06/2025 19:04

That’s seriously what you came here to say? Thanks for your input.

It’s a reasonable question

SchoolTripSENDrama · 30/06/2025 19:05

Mischance · 30/06/2025 19:05

If the 1:1 is part of the EHCP she should have stayed in school to look after him rather than being used as supervision for the whole class on a trip. Her funding will be specific to your child.

Yep you get it. Thank you.

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Mischance · 30/06/2025 19:05

If the 1:1 is part of the EHCP she should have stayed in school to look after him rather than being used as supervision for the whole class on a trip. Her funding will be specific to your child.

SchoolTripSENDrama · 30/06/2025 19:04

Mrsttcno1 · 30/06/2025 19:02

If you had to work then how come you were able to keep him off?

That’s seriously what you came here to say? Thanks for your input.

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SchoolTripSENDrama · 30/06/2025 19:03

BillyWind · 30/06/2025 19:02

I could've written this... except that my son's 1:1 stayed back at school with him and he did some fun things and went in to a Y2 class etc.(They went to a zoo an hour away, he wasn't interested) And.....
Anybody with a child with ASC will understand that it's not just about going on the trip. It's the change of routine, going on a coach, possibly getting stuck in traffic (massive trigger for my son) waiting, queueing, a packed lunch, not knowing what happens next etc...
Your son's 1:1 should have been available for him to stay at school. Its his 1:1.

Thank you. That’s what I hoped DC might have been able to do.

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Mrsttcno1 · 30/06/2025 19:02

SchoolTripSENDrama · 30/06/2025 19:02

Nope. In my op I said I had to work, plus I wasn’t prepared to put DC through the stress of the trip. There’s no “now I’m saying”. It’s all there in the op.

If you had to work then how come you were able to keep him off?

BillyWind · 30/06/2025 19:02

I could've written this... except that my son's 1:1 stayed back at school with him and he did some fun things and went in to a Y2 class etc.(They went to a zoo an hour away, he wasn't interested) And.....
Anybody with a child with ASC will understand that it's not just about going on the trip. It's the change of routine, going on a coach, possibly getting stuck in traffic (massive trigger for my son) waiting, queueing, a packed lunch, not knowing what happens next etc...
Your son's 1:1 should have been available for him to stay at school. Its his 1:1.

SchoolTripSENDrama · 30/06/2025 19:02

ToKittyornottoKitty · 30/06/2025 18:59

Not really, you said you couldn’t go due to work, now you’ve said you refused to let your child go as they wouldn’t have coped. Did school feel that DC would have coped? I do think they should have been able to just attend school, or have the day off authorised, but I’m not sure they legally did anything wrong.

Nope. In my op I said I had to work, plus I wasn’t prepared to put DC through the stress of the trip. There’s no “now I’m saying”. It’s all there in the op.

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Ablondiebutagoody · 30/06/2025 19:01

He could have gone on the trip with 1:1 and you didn't want that. Fair enough but it is an unauthorised absence. Has DC done any other school trips?

Mrsttcno1 · 30/06/2025 19:01

ExpressCheckout · 30/06/2025 18:57

Bloody hell, OP, I would have hit the roof.

They haven't made anticipatory adjustments when planning an all class trip, they've taken the 1-1, and then punished DC with the attendance sanction.

Worse, these are reception aged children. At this age, there is no need for a school trip to be so bespoke or niche or specialised that a child is excluded.

Notwithstanding the fact that this is possibly illegal - another poster may be able to say - but I would certainly be taking this to the HT immediately.

Dreadful.

Have you read the OP?

The trip wasn’t unsuitable because it was “niche” or “bespoke” thus excluding a child, OP has said: “it was unsuitable partly due to them being such a flight risk but also, they would not have got on the school bus in the first place”.

So what school trip would have been suitable? Nothing that requires bus transport… which every school trip I know of does, but if not and they pick somewhere they can walk to then it’s still unsuitable because he’s a flight risk?

Presumably given there is structured support in place, including a 1-1, the school had assessed and planned for this.

SchoolTripSENDrama · 30/06/2025 18:59

Mrsttcno1 · 30/06/2025 18:57

Your child has support in place, a 1-1 who was going to go on the trip, and the school were happy for him to go on the trip. You decided not to send him, what would that be if not an unauthorised absence?

I was surprised there was absolutely no provision for them to not attend the trip but just come to school.

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Han86 · 30/06/2025 18:59

ExpressCheckout · 30/06/2025 18:57

Bloody hell, OP, I would have hit the roof.

They haven't made anticipatory adjustments when planning an all class trip, they've taken the 1-1, and then punished DC with the attendance sanction.

Worse, these are reception aged children. At this age, there is no need for a school trip to be so bespoke or niche or specialised that a child is excluded.

Notwithstanding the fact that this is possibly illegal - another poster may be able to say - but I would certainly be taking this to the HT immediately.

Dreadful.

But it is the parent who has made the decision to not let their child go. Obviously parents can make whatever choices they want.
Did you speak to the SENDCO about your concerns? Our SENDCO has actually gone on some trips to support children. Not sure whether you had a proper meeting with them and the teacher to go through the risk assessment and discuss your concerns and for them to put what they would be providing across.

ToKittyornottoKitty · 30/06/2025 18:59

SchoolTripSENDrama · 30/06/2025 18:54

I think some posters have misunderstood the situation.

Not really, you said you couldn’t go due to work, now you’ve said you refused to let your child go as they wouldn’t have coped. Did school feel that DC would have coped? I do think they should have been able to just attend school, or have the day off authorised, but I’m not sure they legally did anything wrong.

ExpressCheckout · 30/06/2025 18:57

Bloody hell, OP, I would have hit the roof.

They haven't made anticipatory adjustments when planning an all class trip, they've taken the 1-1, and then punished DC with the attendance sanction.

Worse, these are reception aged children. At this age, there is no need for a school trip to be so bespoke or niche or specialised that a child is excluded.

Notwithstanding the fact that this is possibly illegal - another poster may be able to say - but I would certainly be taking this to the HT immediately.

Dreadful.

Mrsttcno1 · 30/06/2025 18:57

Your child has support in place, a 1-1 who was going to go on the trip, and the school were happy for him to go on the trip. You decided not to send him, what would that be if not an unauthorised absence?

SchoolTripSENDrama · 30/06/2025 18:54

I think some posters have misunderstood the situation.

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SchoolTripSENDrama · 30/06/2025 18:54

Thanks for your replies.

Just to clarify, school did not say DC couldn’t go on the trip. They said there was no option for DC to just come to school that day.

I know my DC pretty well and know that they would not have coped with this trip. It would have been distressing for them, so I wasn’t prepared to put them through that.

i didn’t go on the trip because DC would have been distressed regardless of whether I was there or not, so decided to keep them home which resulted in the unauthorised absence.

apologies if that wasn’t clear in my original post.

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Han86 · 30/06/2025 18:45

FloofyBird · 30/06/2025 18:40

Parents shouldn't have to attend school trips because they have a disabled dc. Nor should they need to feel grateful. Ffs.

All parents are usually grateful that trips are put on. If they aren't then parents complain they don't get to go anywhere! Organising a trip is very stressful!
Though based on posts on MN maybe schools shouldn't bother as people moan about costs so maybe they should scrap them and then the problem is solved!

Lots of parents are more than happy to volunteer to help on trips and many are willing to step in if they know that will make a difference to their child being able to go. It's usually a case of telling parents their help isn't required!

This is one of those can't win situations..school try their best but it's still wrong.

FloofyBird · 30/06/2025 18:40

Han86 · 30/06/2025 18:36

So far all children where I work requiring 1:1s have gone on trips. This has sometimes involved taking a parent to facilitate or where we know that it is tricky (this is usually because of a difficult parent than work commitments) then an additional member of staff has also come. Parents are usually very supportive and grateful that their child has been included and that the school check what provision is available (e.g. wheelchair accessible, sensory space/quiet areas, providing social stories).
You should have been provided with a risk assessment to show how they were going to manage the flight risk.

Parents shouldn't have to attend school trips because they have a disabled dc. Nor should they need to feel grateful. Ffs.

ToKittyornottoKitty · 30/06/2025 18:38

Who stayed home with your child? Could that person not have gone on the trip?

Han86 · 30/06/2025 18:36

So far all children where I work requiring 1:1s have gone on trips. This has sometimes involved taking a parent to facilitate or where we know that it is tricky (this is usually because of a difficult parent than work commitments) then an additional member of staff has also come. Parents are usually very supportive and grateful that their child has been included and that the school check what provision is available (e.g. wheelchair accessible, sensory space/quiet areas, providing social stories).
You should have been provided with a risk assessment to show how they were going to manage the flight risk.

FloofyBird · 30/06/2025 18:34

Did they say he couldn't go on the trip? Did they do a risk assessment?