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To avoid Muslim friend

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cumbriaisbest · 30/06/2025 17:48

I can't stand listenting to it any more.Tatbir, Gaza and so on. Unrelenting pain.
In addition.....
Where do I go when I die ( as a non believer?)
Where will my gay son go?

I say this as somebody who has worked in community projects and is passionately against racism.

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cumbriaisbest · 01/07/2025 09:34

@Worralorra , Thanks, this makes sense.

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cumbriaisbest · 01/07/2025 09:33

nomas · 01/07/2025 09:12

Well, you're predictable at least. The veneer wore off pretty quickly, eh?

What on earth is wrong with you? Where is the phobia? I have no phobia of Muslims or the Muslim faith.
I am struggling with a situation.

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Morgenrot25 · 01/07/2025 09:31

Xcfsacs · 01/07/2025 09:01

What's so oppressive about islam? Islam actually grants and gives women so so many rights.

I'm not Muslim. But I've spent a lot of time researching Islam and the other abrahamic faiths.

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You're being ironic, right? Pretty much every religion oppresses women. 🫣

Morgenrot25 · 01/07/2025 09:29

nomas · 01/07/2025 09:26

Have you even read the thread and the misinformation and lies?

I've read the thread.
I'm not sure which 'misinformation' and 'lies' you're seeing though.

nomas · 01/07/2025 09:26

Lmnop22 · 01/07/2025 09:13

Islamophobia? Because she doesn’t like the personality of one Muslim person? Grow up.

Another one who hasn’t read the thread.

nomas · 01/07/2025 09:26

Morgenrot25 · 01/07/2025 09:00

Again, disliking an oppressive faith does not make one phobic.

Have you even read the thread and the misinformation and lies?

Sortumn · 01/07/2025 09:20

Is it not possible to agree not to discuss these things?

As a teen, I had to do that with my born again Christian as she was convinced my Muslim friends were going to hell. Lots of religions believe that theirs is the only way and many people feel its their responsibility to try to 'save' the rest of us..

Worralorra · 01/07/2025 09:15

I would say that anyone who has previously been a friend, but has suddenly become fixated on one topic of conversation, whether it’s religious, allied to followers of Just Stop Oil, Reform, or other semi-fanatical organisations, is showing you that their beliefs are overtaking their personality, and that you might want to distance yourself from it if it’s getting to you…
People change, and if you don’t like the change, for whatever reason, it’s OK to pull away.

Lmnop22 · 01/07/2025 09:13

ButteredRadish · 30/06/2025 18:02

What exactly are you hoping to achieve from this thread, OP? A load of posters agreeing with your Islamophobia?

Islamophobia? Because she doesn’t like the personality of one Muslim person? Grow up.

nomas · 01/07/2025 09:12

cumbriaisbest · 01/07/2025 08:57

I don't see any here, thankfully.

Well, you're predictable at least. The veneer wore off pretty quickly, eh?

TreeDudette · 01/07/2025 09:01

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Xcfsacs · 01/07/2025 09:01

Morgenrot25 · 01/07/2025 08:58

Is it? OPs friend is muslim, not christian or jewish.
It's also not phobic to speak against any oppressive religion that conditions people women to think they're choosing it.

What's so oppressive about islam? Islam actually grants and gives women so so many rights.

I'm not Muslim. But I've spent a lot of time researching Islam and the other abrahamic faiths.

Morgenrot25 · 01/07/2025 09:00

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Again, disliking an oppressive faith does not make one phobic.

Morgenrot25 · 01/07/2025 08:58

Clychaugog · 01/07/2025 08:02

Pretty sure the bible / torah says 'man shall not lie with a another man as he does a woman' which is widely interpreted to be homophobic

You avoiding all christians and jews too?

Most religions are problematic. To single out Islam is islamohobic.

Is it? OPs friend is muslim, not christian or jewish.
It's also not phobic to speak against any oppressive religion that conditions people women to think they're choosing it.

cumbriaisbest · 01/07/2025 08:57

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I don't see any here, thankfully.

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Xcfsacs · 01/07/2025 08:50

Swiftie1878 · 01/07/2025 08:31

The same Old Testament says
"You shall not wear clothing of wool and linen woven together."

Most christians have abandoned that rubbish.

Something about a new covenant superseding OT law. Not just picking and choosing.

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Clychaugog · 01/07/2025 08:47

cumbriaisbest · 01/07/2025 08:43

Like what? Please, I am genuinely interested. Thanks

You're probably best off asking a progressive muslim for a qualified answer 😘

Xcfsacs · 01/07/2025 08:45

KnittyNell · 01/07/2025 08:17

As far as I am aware the New Testament does not call for the deaths of gay people.
Feel free to correct me if I’m wrong.

It doesn't. But homosexual acts are still a sin in Christianity.

In Islam as well just being gay isn't sinful. It's acting on it.

cumbriaisbest · 01/07/2025 08:45

@Clychaugog , badly worded and not well thought out. Me I mean.

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cumbriaisbest · 01/07/2025 08:43

Clychaugog · 01/07/2025 08:35

Yep... and progressive muslims don't pay any attention to the bits in the Qur'an that haven't stood the test of time

Like what? Please, I am genuinely interested. Thanks

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Clychaugog · 01/07/2025 08:38

cumbriaisbest · 01/07/2025 08:25

No it's not. The "conversation" is about a Muslim friend.

I am not Islamaphobic. If you knew the slightest thign about me and me lif eand work you would see the evidence.

Tbf, I've re read your original post and the way it is written looks like you're having a pop at Islam.

I don't doubt that you're a lovely person IRL :)

Clychaugog · 01/07/2025 08:35

Swiftie1878 · 01/07/2025 08:31

The same Old Testament says
"You shall not wear clothing of wool and linen woven together."

Most christians have abandoned that rubbish.

Yep... and progressive muslims don't pay any attention to the bits in the Qur'an that haven't stood the test of time

Swiftie1878 · 01/07/2025 08:31

Clychaugog · 01/07/2025 08:02

Pretty sure the bible / torah says 'man shall not lie with a another man as he does a woman' which is widely interpreted to be homophobic

You avoiding all christians and jews too?

Most religions are problematic. To single out Islam is islamohobic.

The same Old Testament says
"You shall not wear clothing of wool and linen woven together."

Most christians have abandoned that rubbish.

cumbriaisbest · 01/07/2025 08:25

Clychaugog · 01/07/2025 08:02

Pretty sure the bible / torah says 'man shall not lie with a another man as he does a woman' which is widely interpreted to be homophobic

You avoiding all christians and jews too?

Most religions are problematic. To single out Islam is islamohobic.

No it's not. The "conversation" is about a Muslim friend.

I am not Islamaphobic. If you knew the slightest thign about me and me lif eand work you would see the evidence.

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